Now that ISIS is retreating will the Muslim attacks be focused here?

[garion13a5]

Hello,

The leadership of ISIS indicated in February 2016 that they would flood Europe with refugees with the intent of destabilizing the continent. This clearly happening. Now we see ISIS retreating and Muslim attacks increasing world wide. Is Orlando the tip of a vast wave of Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

 

[Bleipriester]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

 

[irosie91]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

 

[garion13a5]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

Hello,

I agree Irosie91. The 1 billion Muslims throughout the world do provide and endless supply of angry, backward adherants. However, the pushing of millions of Muslims into Europe is definitely threatening one of the few centres of education and reason in the world.

garion13a5

 

[Bleipriester]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

If that one billion Muslims would support ISIS, what would happen in your opinion? A terrorist attack?
What I meant with resources, is "qualified personnel". You see, it mostly locals that commit attacks. Two attacks now in the USA by locals.
The Syrian army captured dozens of teenage suicide attackers in Raqqa, among them a 13 year old.

 

[irosie91]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

If that one billion Muslims would support ISIS, what would happen in your opinion? A terrorist attack?
What I meant with resources, is "qualified personnel".
The Syrian army captured dozens of teenage suicide attackers in Raqqa, among them a 13 year old.

I do not understand the intent of your question, captain blei---which is, in sum and substance ---'what would happen if ALL ONE BILLION WORLD MUSLIMS WANTED TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT ISIS TERRORISM' It is an absurd question in that there is no reason to suspect that out of a billion people ALL want to SUPPORT any one ideological action. Isis does not need A BILLION supporters world wide-----a few million is more than enough

 

[Bleipriester]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

If that one billion Muslims would support ISIS, what would happen in your opinion? A terrorist attack?
What I meant with resources, is "qualified personnel".
The Syrian army captured dozens of teenage suicide attackers in Raqqa, among them a 13 year old.

I do not understand the intent of your question, captain blei---which is, in sum and substance ---'what would happen if ALL ONE BILLION WORLD MUSLIMS WANTED TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT ISIS TERRORISM' It is an absurd question in that there is no reason to suspect that out of a billion people ALL want to SUPPORT any one ideological action. Isis does not need A BILLION supporters world wide-----a few million is more than enough

It is you who brought the "1 billion ISIS supporters" into the discussion. Are you that moronic that you don´t remember or do you think people won´t figure it out?

 

[irosie91]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

If that one billion Muslims would support ISIS, what would happen in your opinion? A terrorist attack?
What I meant with resources, is "qualified personnel".
The Syrian army captured dozens of teenage suicide attackers in Raqqa, among them a 13 year old.

I do not understand the intent of your question, captain blei---which is, in sum and substance ---'what would happen if ALL ONE BILLION WORLD MUSLIMS WANTED TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT ISIS TERRORISM' It is an absurd question in that there is no reason to suspect that out of a billion people ALL want to SUPPORT any one ideological action. Isis does not need A BILLION supporters world wide-----a few million is more than enough

It is you who brought the "1 billion ISIS supporters" into the discussion. Are you that moronic that you don´t remember or do you think people won´t figure it out?

wrong again----I cited the fact that there are about one billion (in fact probably more) sunni muslims in the world------they constitute a pool of POTENTIAL ISIS supporters. People who have known lots of sunni muslims as have I would agree------a POOL OF POTENTIAL ISIS SUPPORTERS. I did not describe ALL OF THE POOL as isis supporters-----would a few million be enough?

 

[Old Rocks]

If there were even a million, we would already have a standard war on out hands. As is, we have a war of terrorism by a few thousand crazies.

 

[irosie91]

If there were even a million, we would already have a standard war on out hands. As is, we have a war of terrorism by a few thousand crazies.

you really think so? I think you are wrong. The overwhelming majority of sunni muslims are in NO POSITION to wage war-----millions are having trouble feeding their families and are, certainly not armed-----except Yemenis ---who are armed but having trouble feeding their families

 

[EverCurious]

I'd suggest doing a plot chart of all mass death attacks, isolate the Muslim related attacks from the bunch to help determine your answer.

A) What is the general space of time between mass death attacks?

For example, I'm guessing it was like every 5 years we had a fruit loop for a long time, then it started picking up, every couple years or so, and recently it picked up a lot no doubt; 2-3 a year?
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B) What is the general spacing for Muslim mass death attacks?

As far as I can recall 9/11 was the first major attack on the US and there was a good stretch before the Boston Marathon thing. I might recall wrong but I can't say that I can think of anything like that outside the US until the Cartoon attack? (I admit I don't pay attention to foreign attacks so much)
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My question would be, is the general rate at which someone loses it and decides to go out in a blaze of glory increasing in Muslim's, or is the Muslim uptick in mass death attacks inline with the similar uptick in your run of the mill fruit loop attacker.

I personally do not think that Muslim specific attacks are that far off the run of the mill, not given that we're at war and their ISIS supporters have been allowed to infiltrate and stay in the US - and no I'm not sure if we should throw them out of the country if they're ISIS supporters /before/ they do something, freedom of support is not something we can say isn't allowed (see Bernie Sanders domestic terrorists) Still, I do think we need to keep a close eye on these people. However, I'm seriously torn on how far we should act against monitoring someones freedom to believe and support as they wish, and how far we can morally go in privacy invasion in order to protect our citizens.

I'm an individualist, the US is one of the only countries in the world that accepts an individualist, thus I am also a Nationalist as well... It's very difficult to define the line, not just ISIS supporters, but also Socialists, Communists, KKK, BLM, Liberals, etc., etc. For me, these things are not necessarily a concern until they start getting large enough support to start heavily influencing our politics against freedom of the individual. This is why I anticipate Christian membership decreasing in the US, it is not that I have anything against Christians, but rather that when Christians had the majority they saddled (and will continue to saddle) my American "individuals" with their twisted belief system, /forcing/ free people to live under Christian rules. This is no more acceptable to me, than to allow Muslims to enforce their belief system's rules. Neither is proper for this free country.

The problem with religion is that it is so deeply held that it cannot be reasoned with, it is more akin to a mental disorder than not as far as I am concerned, far more addictive than any illegal drug, and worse for me personally I suppose, it destroys the individual without mercy. There is no individual thought when one is part of a religious cult, when ones beliefs are dictated to them, forced upon them... Well intentioned or not, I find organized religions concerning, no matter their format or belief. At the same time, the benefits of religious belief are actually, in general, good for the psyche of the majority and can indeed help them live a better life than they might have chosen had they /not/ found religion. It frustrates me often, that the "weak minded" (I know this sounds like an insult but it is not) must rely upon religion to feel "whole," as it were. I should very much prefer that they could find their completion without religious dictates, without chains. But it is not within the cerebral make-up of most to do so upon their own, they are held hostage to their fears and needs.

Thus, the individualist must make room and accept also those sheep who are swayed by the emptiness they fill with, what I consider to be, non-American beliefs... and I'm torn by my duty and obligation to the America I believe in, and what is actually is. What right do I have to say that America now is not the America I believe in? That I can only accept the voice of the majority, as is proper for the purpose of this nation... That I should not wish to /limit/ whom that majority becomes, but rather that I should accept whatever her people choose, and act upon my beliefs accordingly - if that means abandoning her, then so be it... It is a very hard line to walk, and were I a weaker person, I could see my entire world tearing apart and I could snap, were I as most people are; is it possible that I could fall sway to my dread and go out in a similar blaze of glory? What does a "typical" man do when faced with such a reality and has no hope for resolution due to financial status? I am no normal human though, my brain is literally wired differently - I cannot answer that question... It irks me frankly.

Apologies, I waxed a bit philosophical there...

In the grand scheme of things, what comes first, the madness that causes the weakness of the mind required to commit a mass murder, or the outside influences that sweep in to fill such weaknesses? Is it the religion that causes the act, or is it the individual themselves?

If it is the individual, then the answer to your question is clearly no. Rather the influence behind the despair that drives men to such acts is desperation and their submission to the belief that they are not strong enough to stand against the emptiness in their minds.

 

[Bleipriester]

Many attacks are committed by lone wolfs that were radicalized by local Islamists and the Internet. I think and hope that ISIS is too busy battling the forces fighting them to waste resources on large attacks in the West.

true----Isis is depending on its RESOURCES which consist of the in excess of a billion muslims thruout the world-----its long distance supporters. No need for ISIS to send people from Iraq

If that one billion Muslims would support ISIS, what would happen in your opinion? A terrorist attack?
What I meant with resources, is "qualified personnel".
The Syrian army captured dozens of teenage suicide attackers in Raqqa, among them a 13 year old.

I do not understand the intent of your question, captain blei---which is, in sum and substance ---'what would happen if ALL ONE BILLION WORLD MUSLIMS WANTED TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT ISIS TERRORISM' It is an absurd question in that there is no reason to suspect that out of a billion people ALL want to SUPPORT any one ideological action. Isis does not need A BILLION supporters world wide-----a few million is more than enough

It is you who brought the "1 billion ISIS supporters" into the discussion. Are you that moronic that you don´t remember or do you think people won´t figure it out?

wrong again----I cited the fact that there are about one billion (in fact probably more) sunni muslims in the world------they constitute a pool of POTENTIAL ISIS supporters. People who have known lots of sunni muslims as have I would agree------a POOL OF POTENTIAL ISIS SUPPORTERS. I did not describe ALL OF THE POOL as isis supporters-----would a few million be enough?

Not worth to reply. Grow up.

 

[alpine]

Gotta finish em in Syria...
Gotta finish em on the internet...

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