Zone1 Well regulated militia

[progressive hunter]

"Organized militia'

I explained why so if you have something to counter that please present it,,

a militia is a civilian military and since the NG are enlisted and not civilian nothing has morphed,,

youre using the typical anti 2nd A argument thats been debunked so many times its laughable you would still try it,,

 

[Delldude]

I explained why so if you have something to counter that please present it,,

a militia is a civilian military and since the NG are enlisted and not civilian nothing has morphed,,

youre using the typical anti 2nd A argument thats been debunked so many times its laughable you would still try it,,

How do you think the NG evolved?

History is your friend.

 

[Delldude]

a militia is a civilian military and since the NG are enlisted and not civilian nothing has morphed,,

Key word here is 'evolved'

 

[progressive hunter]

How do you think the NG evolved?

History is your friend.

that isnt telling me anything,,

buy a dictionary

 

[progressive hunter]

Key word here is 'evolved'

if the people need to fight the government how will that work out if the militia is controlled b the government and the people have no guns??

 

[Damaged Eagle]

"Organized militia'

Regulated is not the same as organized

SMILE

 

[Delldude]

that isnt telling me anything,,

buy a dictionary

Buy a history book.

 

[Delldude]

Regulated is not the same as organized

Evolution

 

[progressive hunter]

Buy a history book.

words have meanings and history speaks for itself,,

so if youre not going to even try and prove yourself right or me wrong,,

 

[Delldude]

words have meanings and history speaks for itself,,

so if youre not going to even try and prove yourself right or me wrong best you go fuck yourself,,

Your state militias which had been around since the revolutionary war are now what is called NG.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Key word here is 'evolved'

Does it say that in the Constitution? No! All it saying is "a well regulated militia".

Being in the national guard makes you part of the military and not a free willed civilian who can answer the call freely to act in a national emergency like an invasion. The national guard are sent to all the little petty foreign wars congress wants them for and congress lately doesn't even vote to go to war with that country. Sounds more like the national guard is the army to me.

SMILE

 

[progressive hunter]

Ok asshole......

Your state militias which had been around since the revolutionary war are now what is called NG.

no they arent,,

rather be an asshole than a stupid POS that thinks he can just give single word answers that dont have anything to do with the topic,,
evolved,, and morphed???

just some stupid shit right there

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Alright. Even though I hang out in less civil places than here let's keep it civil.

This is the Clean Debate Zone after all.

CHUCKLE

 

[boevans]

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The enlightened progressive liberals say that firearms should only be held by a well regulated militia and other people have no need of them. Well... My military ID card for retirement says INDEF (meaning indefinitely) on it. So I'm taking it that means I'm part of the well regulated militia. Therefore any requirement for my having to obtain a license, training, or anything else about a firearm should be provided to me for free and that the government should have to pay for my time in obtaining those items. Also since I'm part of the well regulated militia I want to know when they're going to provide me with a standard issue machine gun, 10,000 rounds for said weapon, body armor, and any other item they want their well regulated militia to have. Those items they require me to have are provided to me for by the government at their expense. This also means that any state or city laws regarding firearms are rescinded and that castle law and concealed carry is allowed in any state due to our being part of the well regulated militia.

Also I want made available to purchase on the open market to all members of the well regulated militia any weapon, body armor, or other accessory (That's not standard issue for the well regulated militia) that civil law enforcement, secret service, private security, or any other organization or agency is allowed to purchase. If you want an item to be under the sole jurisdiction of the military that's where it remains and those agencies and organizations don't qualify as being part of the military therefore they can't have them either.

Additionally I think anyone that has signed up for selective service is to be considered part of the well regulated militia and they need to attend training for a minimum of one to two weeks and pick up their gear also. We can make signing up for selective service a requirement for voting and kill two birds with one stone at the ballot box by having their selective service card also being their voter ID card. Before you say anything about women in the military they are the shield maidens of Rohan and with equal rights comes equal responsibilities. Besides to change a quote slightly, "Samuel Colt made all people equal."

The governors can appoint a time and a designate place to assemble and organize the militia of theate.

 

[Delldude]

Does it say that in the Constitution? No! All it saying is "a well regulated militia".

Yeah and you are correct.

Being in the national guard makes you part of the military and not a free willed civilian who can answer the call freely to act in a national emergency like an invasion. The national guard are sent to all the little petty foreign wars congress wants them for and congress lately doesn't even vote to go to war with that country. Sounds more like the national guard is the army to me.

Like I said, history is your friend.

You and your little buddy need to look into the history of the 'regulated militia' and look at the laws Congress passed over the years which changed it to what we have today.

Like it or not..... that's where we are.

 

[otto105]

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The enlightened progressive liberals say that firearms should only be held by a well regulated militia and other people have no need of them. Well... My military ID card for retirement says INDEF (meaning indefinitely) on it. So I'm taking it that means I'm part of the well regulated militia. Therefore any requirement for my having to obtain a license, training, or anything else about a firearm should be provided to me for free and that the government should have to pay for my time in obtaining those items. Also since I'm part of the well regulated militia I want to know when they're going to provide me with a standard issue machine gun, 10,000 rounds for said weapon, body armor, and any other item they want their well regulated militia to have. Those items they require me to have are provided to me for by the government at their expense. This also means that any state or city laws regarding firearms are rescinded and that castle law and concealed carry is allowed in any state due to our being part of the well regulated militia.

Also I want made available to purchase on the open market to all members of the well regulated militia any weapon, body armor, or other accessory (That's not standard issue for the well regulated militia) that civil law enforcement, secret service, private security, or any other organization or agency is allowed to purchase. If you want an item to be under the sole jurisdiction of the military that's where it remains and those agencies and organizations don't qualify as being part of the military therefore they can't have them either.

Additionally I think anyone that has signed up for selective service is to be considered part of the well regulated militia and they need to attend training for a minimum of one to two weeks and pick up their gear also. We can make signing up for selective service a requirement for voting and kill two birds with one stone at the ballot box by having their selective service card also being their voter ID card. Before you say anything about women in the military they are the shield maidens of Rohan and with equal rights comes equal responsibilities. Besides to change a quote slightly, "Samuel Colt made all people equal."

SMILE

"The enlightened progressive liberals say that firearms should only be held by a well regulated militia and other people have no need of them"

Hilarious******. Have you read the text"

Mod Note: Keep responses in Zone 1 clean.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yeah and you are correct.



Like I said, history is your friend.

You and your little buddy need to look into the history of the 'regulated militia' and look at the laws Congress passed over the years which changed it to what we have today.

Like it or not..... that's where we are.

then show us where in history the meanings of words changed and the 2nd A was repealed or changed??

not sure if you knew this but laws dont change the constitution,,

 

[westwall]

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The enlightened progressive liberals say that firearms should only be held by a well regulated militia and other people have no need of them. Well... My military ID card for retirement says INDEF (meaning indefinitely) on it. So I'm taking it that means I'm part of the well regulated militia. Therefore any requirement for my having to obtain a license, training, or anything else about a firearm should be provided to me for free and that the government should have to pay for my time in obtaining those items. Also since I'm part of the well regulated militia I want to know when they're going to provide me with a standard issue machine gun, 10,000 rounds for said weapon, body armor, and any other item they want their well regulated militia to have. Those items they require me to have are provided to me for by the government at their expense. This also means that any state or city laws regarding firearms are rescinded and that castle law and concealed carry is allowed in any state due to our being part of the well regulated militia.

Also I want made available to purchase on the open market to all members of the well regulated militia any weapon, body armor, or other accessory (That's not standard issue for the well regulated militia) that civil law enforcement, secret service, private security, or any other organization or agency is allowed to purchase. If you want an item to be under the sole jurisdiction of the military that's where it remains and those agencies and organizations don't qualify as being part of the military therefore they can't have them either.

Additionally I think anyone that has signed up for selective service is to be considered part of the well regulated militia and they need to attend training for a minimum of one to two weeks and pick up their gear also. We can make signing up for selective service a requirement for voting and kill two birds with one stone at the ballot box by having their selective service card also being their voter ID card. Before you say anything about women in the military they are the shield maidens of Rohan and with equal rights comes equal responsibilities. Besides to change a quote slightly, "Samuel Colt made all people equal."

SMILE

Well regulated at the time it was written, simply meant, "in good working order"

 

[Delldude]

then show us where in history the meanings of words changed and the 2nd A was repealed or changed??

not sure if you knew this but laws dont change the constitution,,

No kidding.

So tell me how our country went from armed civilians defending their homes and towns, then it expanded to defending the state. So how did we get here?

You do know that only the governor can activate the NG don't you?

You're so concerned......go look up what you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[progressive hunter]

No kidding.

So tell me how our country went from armed civilians defending their homes and towns, then it expanded to defending the state. So how did we get here?

You do know that only the governor can activate the NG don't you?

You're so concerned......go look up what you don't know what you're talking about.

so you have nothing to back up a single claim,,


key word being activate,,

the NG is alwys active even when their not deployed or training because they are enlisted and not civilians,,

Definition of MILITIA

a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency; a body of citizens organized for military service; the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service… See the full definition

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a body of citizens organized for military service