Not surprisingly, Obama nailed it.

After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.


In response, Obama made a prediction.

Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal​

The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.

But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.

And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.

“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy.
Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”

But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”


Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
Of course Trump wanted to gut Obama's foreign policy legacy....geez man...his legacy was being more flexible with Putin and the failure in the Middle East, and north Africa....of siding with terrorist, and giving Iran whatever they wanted, and on top of it, billions in cash.

Who wouldn't want to gut that?
 
The US suspect them of conducting nuclear activities on these other sites. That's the point. What the UN said is irrelevant.
Oh, do we suspected it. Did Trump feel it in his bones?
 
Oh, do we suspected it. Did Trump feel it in his bones?
U.S. officials and inspectors have long suspected Iran of conducting nuclear-related activities at various military sites, most notably the Parchin military complex, where the IAEA found man-made uranium traces in 2015. These suspicions involve experiments with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms, often hidden behind restricted access and, at times, site sanitation (razing buildings or removing soil).
 
The US suspect them of conducting nuclear activities on these other sites. That's the point. What the UN said is irrelevant.

US intelligence finds no sign Iran was rebuilding its nuclear program​

 

U.S. officials and inspectors have long suspected Iran of conducting nuclear-related activities at various military sites, most notably the Parchin military complex, where the IAEA found man-made uranium traces in 2015. These suspicions involve experiments with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms, often hidden behind restricted access and, at times, site sanitation (razing buildings or removing soil).

It's laughable you people saying "Oh, Iran would never have violated the spirit of the law." Y'all are gullible like Neville Chamberlain.
 

US intelligence finds no sign Iran was rebuilding its nuclear program​

Not being able to inspect their military sites makes it impossible to know they were not enriching.
 
Syria was a war of choice also.
Obama used the 2001 AUMF as justification for most of his actions. Not Libya, but his action against ISIS and a whole host of other groups in far away places. We continued using that AUMF as justification for these actions under Trump and Biden
as well.

Yes, it did.

You are a liar.

Feel free to show me where it says any think like "After such-n-such a date, Iran can build it's own nuclear weapon."

 
U.S. officials and inspectors have long suspected Iran of conducting nuclear-related activities at various military sites, most notably the Parchin military complex, where the IAEA found man-made uranium traces in 2015. These suspicions involve experiments with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms, often hidden behind restricted access and, at times, site sanitation (razing buildings or removing soil).

US intelligence contradicts Trump’s Iran war justification, finds no nuclear rebuilding​

 
Every time one of you trumples lies about the JCPOA I'm going to post this link proving them wrong.

Great. then we can debunk your lies

Sunset Provisions
Why Returning to Iran Nuclear Deal Is Bad Idea" (2022) – Highlights sunsets as turning the deal into a "speed bump" that lets Iran expand to industrial-scale enrichment post-2025/2030.

how sanctions relief funded terrorism and proxies; missile program advanced unchecked.

"Atomic watchdog says Iran not complying with nuclear safeguards" (June 2025)
 
Of course Trump wanted to gut Obama's foreign policy legacy....geez man...his legacy was being more flexible with Putin and the failure in the Middle East, and north Africa....of siding with terrorist, and giving Iran whatever they wanted, and on top of it, billions in cash.

Who wouldn't want to gut that?

Democrats
 
U.S. officials and inspectors have long suspected Iran of conducting nuclear-related activities at various military sites, most notably the Parchin military complex, where the IAEA found man-made uranium traces in 2015. These suspicions involve experiments with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms, often hidden behind restricted access and, at times, site sanitation (razing buildings or removing soil).

It's laughable you people saying "Oh, Iran would never have violated the spirit of the law." Y'all are gullible like Neville Chamberlain.
So we weren’t allowed to inspect military sites except for when we did inspect military sites and didn’t find any enrichment program.

But they did find two particles of man made uranium.

So that’s why we now have a war?
 
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We could access all their nuclear sites, which is what matters for a nuclear deal.
no one—including IAEA inspectors—was granted unrestricted or immediate access to all of Iran's nuclear sites, particularly suspected or undeclared ones and military facilities under the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the 2015 Iran nuclear deal),

 
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After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.


In response, Obama made a prediction.

Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal​

The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.

But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.

And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.

“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy.
Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”

But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”


Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
There is no negotiating with Islamic fanatics. They only understand the club over the head. Wack them hard to keep them inline.
 
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