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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?
 

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I just refuse to work certain days, those days are called weekdays.
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?
That and trying to figure out the "Who packed the courts last" game.
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?

The air traffic controllers and pilots are refusing to work because of a dangerous vaccine mandate, and an injection thats killing hundreds of thousands. This other group is some type of media fairy tale about people not working because of low wages.
 

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Then there is the group of people ( democrats ) who are orchestrating all of it.

They are paying people to stay out of work, and pressuring private companies to enforce a mandate most people in the country don't agree with.................


All part of the plan to "build back better".


Better for who???????????
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?

Why should employers be "forced" to pay higher wages? Are those employees going to necessarily produce more? Will those employers not pass on the loss to you, by raising their prices?
 
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Why should employers be "forced" to pay higher wages? Are those employees going to necessarily produce more? Will those employers not pass on the loss to you, by raising their prices?

And then you sort of prove my point for me. Thanks.

I would add that I am more than willing to pay 1 buck extra for a burger and fires if it means people are back to work and getting paid a decent wage
 

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What the truth is that these low paying jobs are more plentiful than we have workers to perform them.
And these low paying jobs have increased risks that should include hazard pay by most people's understanding.

If a person works a graveyard shift or Sundays there is usually a shift differential that automatically includes a raise in pay. If the job is inherently dangerous there is yet another hefty differential for pay...

But currently no one is paying one for taking the risk of working with the public in the middle of a global pandemic. When the hospital bills and medicines alone are going to wipe out any paychecks you earn.
And possibly you can end up with permanent disability of lung, kidney, liver damage... possibly neurological damage of loss of smell or taste.
Lots of various hazards that are not met by protocols (a small piece of plexiglass or masks?)

Then there's management...they absolutely have zero loyalty to their staff. If you get sick you are fired. You are disposable to them...the best anyone ever got out of these managers is to have all the credit for exemplary work taken by your manager as they get yet another promotion and raise in pay while now you get to be fired because "you know too much".

I don't blame the people one tiny bit for the risk/reward analysis and decided to stay home.
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?
When your only skill is to recite 57 genders without error, it bodes well you'll never be above 10 bucks an hour
 
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When your only skill is to recite 57 genders without error, it bodes well you'll never be above 10 bucks an hour

and again, you prove my point.

this was too easy
 

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Then there's the two person household with children...
One person staying home with children versus paying for daycare only is a deficit of $200 month for working 40hrs.
Not enough for most people to walk out the door.
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?

Sounds like union tactics
 
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Sounds like union tactics

It does, doesn't it. Unions had their place and their need. I have argued for the most part that time had passed, but I do wonder if that also is not changing
 

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Then there is the group of people ( democrats ) who are orchestrating all of it.

They are paying people to stay out of work, and pressuring private companies to enforce a mandate most people in the country don't agree with.................


All part of the plan to "build back better".


Better for who???????????

The "build back" part comes later. The Democrats are currently in the "deconstruction" or tearing down part, believing that whatever they replace traditional American institutions, will be "better."

Everyone pretty knows much knows that's hogwash though, because most everything the Democrats have ever "built" has turned to shit.

Social Security? Bankrupt.

LBJ's Great Society? Thanks for the crime-ridden ghettos.

Affirmative Action? Yeah right.

Obama's "Shovel-ready jobs"? Didn't happen.

I could go on.
 

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Then there is the group of people ( democrats ) who are orchestrating all of it.
Then there are a group of people who will blame Democrats for everything.
 

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In this country there is a group of people that are basically refusing to go to work for what they consider shit wages for shit jobs. They are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This group is venerated by the left and vilified by the right.

Then we have a group of people that are staging "sick outs" and quitting their jobs over the vaccine mandates, hoping to force companies not to enforce it. This group is venerated by the right and vilified by the left.

But in the end, are not both groups trying for the same thing, to use the power in numbers that employees have to force changes by employers?
I don't know any of my conservative friends who give two shits about this group of people you claim are holding out hoping to force companies to pay better wages. This is the first I've heard of such a group. I think everyone is aware that government Covid payments are fucking up market dynamics and making it easy for people not to take low paying jobs. And yes, the left loves that and conservatives do not.
 

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And then you sort of prove my point for me. Thanks.

I would add that I am more than willing to pay 1 buck extra for a burger and fires if it means people are back to work and getting paid a decent wage

Nobody is stopping those wage-earners from bettering themselves. This isn't 19th century England.
 

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