NOAA Hottest Year on Record: 1997 62F

[edthecynic]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

If you're not measuring, what are the thermometers doing???

Where is this GLOBAL thermometer located that directly measures the temperature of the entire globe every day???

'exactly' button. you got em?

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

You interchanged temperature and anomaly as if they're the same.

Fail

No I didn't, but thanks again for the Straw Man.

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

If you're not measuring, what are the thermometers doing???

Where is this GLOBAL thermometer located that directly measures the temperature of the entire globe every day???

I thought it was the mathematical average of all the reading from all the stations through the year.

You're saying the average is not an average

no, the average temperature is now an anomaly, I guess, I don't know, he's too confused to answer.

 

[edthecynic]

That's cute. It was 60 degrees in Anaheim last night. There is snow about 400 feet above my house. Unusual? No. But then neither is anything that the AGW supporters claim either.

NOTHING.

It was 90 degrees at the Jersey shore yesterday, the second 90 degree day this week, and that is unusual.

Care to bet. Try looking at the historical temp record going back 100 years and you will see it is nothing unusual.

You guys look at a small time frame and ascribe magical powers to it.

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

it is, I'd be thinking that an anomaly would be in the vicinity of like one or two degrees off another baseline, but you get 67, dude why are we still here with your magic anomaly figure?

 

[jc456]

That's cute. It was 60 degrees in Anaheim last night. There is snow about 400 feet above my house. Unusual? No. But then neither is anything that the AGW supporters claim either.

NOTHING.

It was 90 degrees at the Jersey shore yesterday, the second 90 degree day this week, and that is unusual.

Care to bet. Try looking at the historical temp record going back 100 years and you will see it is nothing unusual.

You guys look at a small time frame and ascribe magical powers to it.

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

well if it happened before than it isn't unusual. so it would have to be historic. damn you all don't get records or temperature statistics at all. Anomaly is temperature based on a baseline that converts the temperature into an anomaly so the baseline becomes stranded by 30 years instead of 100 and then move the calendar to include the baseline moved from the global thermometer. I guess. something like that at all?

 

[edthecynic]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

it is, I'd be thinking that an anomaly would be in the vicinity of like one or two degrees off another baseline, but you get 67, dude why are we still here with your magic anomaly figure?

Already explained to you.

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

you mean the way you use stupid? yes it is, very shocking.

 

[edthecynic]

It was 90 degrees at the Jersey shore yesterday, the second 90 degree day this week, and that is unusual.

Care to bet. Try looking at the historical temp record going back 100 years and you will see it is nothing unusual.

You guys look at a small time frame and ascribe magical powers to it.

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

well if it happened before than it isn't unusual. so it would have to be historic. damn you all don't get records or temperature statistics at all. Anomaly is temperature based on a baseline that converts the temperature into an anomaly so the baseline becomes stranded by 30 years instead of 100 and then move the calendar to include the baseline moved from the global thermometer. I guess. something like that at all?

No the usual is a lower temp. Having happened before means it is not unique, not happening often means it is unusual.

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

it is, I'd be thinking that an anomaly would be in the vicinity of like one or two degrees off another baseline, but you get 67, dude why are we still here with your magic anomaly figure?

Already explained to you.

nope, you would be confusing where 67 degrees falls within a 30 year average or a hundred year average as warm or cooler. but you haven't figured that out just yet. you think 67 is an anomaly figure. LOMFL

 

[jc456]

Care to bet. Try looking at the historical temp record going back 100 years and you will see it is nothing unusual.

You guys look at a small time frame and ascribe magical powers to it.

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

well if it happened before than it isn't unusual. so it would have to be historic. damn you all don't get records or temperature statistics at all. Anomaly is temperature based on a baseline that converts the temperature into an anomaly so the baseline becomes stranded by 30 years instead of 100 and then move the calendar to include the baseline moved from the global thermometer. I guess. something like that at all?

No the usual is a lower temp. Having happened before means it is not unique, not happening often means it is unusual.

no, it is an average. damn learn something already.

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

You interchanged temperature and anomaly as if they're the same.

Fail

No I didn't, but thanks again for the Straw Man.

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

If you're not measuring, what are the thermometers doing???

Where is this GLOBAL thermometer located that directly measures the temperature of the entire globe every day???

I thought it was the mathematical average of all the reading from all the stations through the year.

You're saying the average is not an average

'exactly' button. It has to be what he's saying.

 

[jc456]

Care to bet. Try looking at the historical temp record going back 100 years and you will see it is nothing unusual.

You guys look at a small time frame and ascribe magical powers to it.

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

well if it happened before than it isn't unusual. so it would have to be historic. damn you all don't get records or temperature statistics at all. Anomaly is temperature based on a baseline that converts the temperature into an anomaly so the baseline becomes stranded by 30 years instead of 100 and then move the calendar to include the baseline moved from the global thermometer. I guess. something like that at all?

No the usual is a lower temp. Having happened before means it is not unique, not happening often means it is unusual.

btw, do you even know what unusual means? I guess not.

 

[edthecynic]

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

it is, I'd be thinking that an anomaly would be in the vicinity of like one or two degrees off another baseline, but you get 67, dude why are we still here with your magic anomaly figure?

Already explained to you.

nope, you would be confusing where 67 degrees falls within a 30 year average or a hundred year average as warm or cooler. but you haven't figured that out just yet. you think 67 is an anomaly figure. LOMFL

Now you are just plain lying.

 

[edthecynic]

Well since the average here is in the low 70s, it certainly is not average!

but, but, was it a record temperature? a record two days for that time of the year? Got that at all?

Give me your city where that temperature was taken and I'll go look for historical temps for the two days in question. Want to make a bet it isn't historical at all, not close?

Never said it was a record, as you well know. I only said it was not the usual.

well if it happened before than it isn't unusual. so it would have to be historic. damn you all don't get records or temperature statistics at all. Anomaly is temperature based on a baseline that converts the temperature into an anomaly so the baseline becomes stranded by 30 years instead of 100 and then move the calendar to include the baseline moved from the global thermometer. I guess. something like that at all?

No the usual is a lower temp. Having happened before means it is not unique, not happening often means it is unusual.

btw, do you even know what unusual means? I guess not.

Obviously YOU don't!

usual

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1.
habitual or customary:
her usual skill.
2.
commonly met with or observed in experience; ordinary:
the usual January weather.
3.
commonplace; everyday:
He says the usual things.

 

[jc456]

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

You interchanged temperature and anomaly as if they're the same.

Fail

No I didn't, but thanks again for the Straw Man.

Warmers dont know the difference between a measurement and a baseline. They mistakenly believe that the baseline alters the direct temperature measurement.

LIAR!

They are smart enough to know that there is no direct GLOBAL temperature measurement, but rather the GLOBAL temperature is calculated using the anomalies collected from all the different temperature stations all over the globe. The only way that data can be combined is using anomalies which require a baseline average to calculate.

If you're not measuring, what are the thermometers doing???

Where is this GLOBAL thermometer located that directly measures the temperature of the entire globe every day???

I thought it was the mathematical average of all the reading from all the stations through the year.

You're saying the average is not an average

And how exactly are you going to calibrate all the thermometers exactly the same all over the globe to use their DIRECT measurements as an average????????

You can't, which is why anomalies are used which can be averaged globally.

why do you think all the thermometers need to be calibrated the same? who cares? they give a reading, it is added to a list of other thermometers and averaged by the number of thermometers, why is it important for them to all be the same? How would anyone ever do that? it's called average, you need to look up what that word means.

 

[jc456]

oh....my .......gawd

The truth is shocking, isn't it!!!

it is, I'd be thinking that an anomaly would be in the vicinity of like one or two degrees off another baseline, but you get 67, dude why are we still here with your magic anomaly figure?

Already explained to you.

nope, you would be confusing where 67 degrees falls within a 30 year average or a hundred year average as warm or cooler. but you haven't figured that out just yet. you think 67 is an anomaly figure. LOMFL

Now you are just plain lying.

dude, I read it here, your entire discussion with frank he asked you was temperature an anomaly or temperature and you said it was anomaly. which then makes 67 an anomaly not a temperature. see again, 67 degrees may be one or two degrees off the 30 year or 100 year average, but you keep stating it is the anomaly. sorry bubba, you're your own worst enemy right now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Outside temperature is 67F, after taking both the 30 year and 100 year baseline into account, the temperature is still 67F

Deniers always play dumb when they want to keep lying.
The 67F anomaly will be different for a 30 year baseline than a 100 year baseline, as if you didn't know!

The outside temperature is currently 67F, please explain to me how and when the baseline come into play

The baseline comes into play whenever the data is recorded as an anomaly, which is the only way the data is recorded by scientists.

so 67 is the anomaly? wow that is a big anomaly don't you think? We should be dead.

No, you are taking the post out of context. The anomaly calculated for CF's hypothetical 67F outside temp will be different depending on which baseline is used was what I was trying to explain to CF, not that the anomaly was 67F

Outside temperature is 67F, after taking both the 30 year and 100 year baseline into account, the temperature is still 67F

Deniers always play dumb when they want to keep lying.
The 67F anomaly will be different for a 30 year baseline than a 100 year baseline, as if you didn't know!

But the "anomaly" has no effect whatsoever on the temperature, correct?

 

[edthecynic]

Deniers always play dumb when they want to keep lying.
The 67F anomaly will be different for a 30 year baseline than a 100 year baseline, as if you didn't know!

The outside temperature is currently 67F, please explain to me how and when the baseline come into play

The baseline comes into play whenever the data is recorded as an anomaly, which is the only way the data is recorded by scientists.

so 67 is the anomaly? wow that is a big anomaly don't you think? We should be dead.

No, you are taking the post out of context. The anomaly calculated for CF's hypothetical 67F outside temp will be different depending on which baseline is used was what I was trying to explain to CF, not that the anomaly was 67F

Outside temperature is 67F, after taking both the 30 year and 100 year baseline into account, the temperature is still 67F

Deniers always play dumb when they want to keep lying.
The 67F anomaly will be different for a 30 year baseline than a 100 year baseline, as if you didn't know!

But the "anomaly" has no effect whatsoever on the temperature, correct?

The outside temperature that you are reading on the thermometer, correct.

 

[jc456]

20th century average us 56.9. The 1997 average was 62, that 5F warmer than average

'exactly' button again