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kidrocks wrote this entirely unsubstantiated bald face LIE:
"Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "
This idiot didn't substantiate his numbers... just threw some stupid comment without showing or sourcing!
He pulled numbers out of his ASS!
I went to the authorized source of Labor statistics: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm
Downloaded a spreadsheet that contained actual REAL numbers of people working from 2001 end of Bush's first year to Obama's 2012.
Here are the results and IF YOU don't believe me GO to the above source!
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value
Series Id: CEU0000000001
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector:Total nonfarm
Industry: Total nonfarm
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
end of Obama first year
NO WHERE in the REAL numbers has Obama come close to Bush's largest number of people employed in HISTORY in 2007 with 137,645,000!
PLUS ... Obama has NOT had ONE event equal any of the events Bush had to endure!
At the end of 8 years Bush had created 4,933,000 jobs AFTER having gone through the WORST experiences that NO president had ever endured which included:
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Over 845,000 jobs LOST due to events that NOT one President has ever had in their 8 years! Some Presidents have had bad weather, some attacks on USA,
some a depression... BUT NOT all of those events occurred in one 8 year administration! NEVER!!!
DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs
DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.
Costliest U.S. Hurricanes | Weather Underground
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events
All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !
AGAIN would the idiot "kidrocks" that wrote this thread "Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "
PLEASE refute ANY of the above sourced information!!!
"Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "
This idiot didn't substantiate his numbers... just threw some stupid comment without showing or sourcing!
He pulled numbers out of his ASS!
I went to the authorized source of Labor statistics: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm
Downloaded a spreadsheet that contained actual REAL numbers of people working from 2001 end of Bush's first year to Obama's 2012.
Here are the results and IF YOU don't believe me GO to the above source!
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value
Series Id: CEU0000000001
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector:Total nonfarm
Industry: Total nonfarm
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
- Years:2001 to 2013
- 2001 131,919,000
- 2002 130,450,000 decrease 1,469,000 (due to recession, 9/11, dot com bust cost 1 million jobs!)
- 2003 130,100,000 decrease 350,000
- 2004 131,509,000 increase 1,409,000
- 2005 133,747,000 increase 2,238,000
- 2006 136,125,000 increase 2,378,000
- 2007 137,645,000 increase 1,520,000
- 2008 136,852,000 decrease 793,000
end of Obama first year
- 2009 130,876,000 decrease 5,976,000
- 2010 129,917,000 decrease 959,000
- 2011 131,497,000 increase 1,580,000
- 2012 133,739,000 increase 2,242,000
NO WHERE in the REAL numbers has Obama come close to Bush's largest number of people employed in HISTORY in 2007 with 137,645,000!
PLUS ... Obama has NOT had ONE event equal any of the events Bush had to endure!
At the end of 8 years Bush had created 4,933,000 jobs AFTER having gone through the WORST experiences that NO president had ever endured which included:
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Over 845,000 jobs LOST due to events that NOT one President has ever had in their 8 years! Some Presidents have had bad weather, some attacks on USA,
some a depression... BUT NOT all of those events occurred in one 8 year administration! NEVER!!!
DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs
DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.
Costliest U.S. Hurricanes | Weather Underground
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events
All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !
AGAIN would the idiot "kidrocks" that wrote this thread "Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "
PLEASE refute ANY of the above sourced information!!!
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