NO Surprise! Obama is still 3.9 million jobs LESS the Bush in 2007!

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kidrocks wrote this entirely unsubstantiated bald face LIE:
"Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "

This idiot didn't substantiate his numbers... just threw some stupid comment without showing or sourcing!
He pulled numbers out of his ASS!

I went to the authorized source of Labor statistics: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm
Downloaded a spreadsheet that contained actual REAL numbers of people working from 2001 end of Bush's first year to Obama's 2012.
Here are the results and IF YOU don't believe me GO to the above source!

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value

Series Id: CEU0000000001
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector:Total nonfarm
Industry: Total nonfarm
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
  • Years:2001 to 2013
  • 2001 131,919,000
  • 2002 130,450,000 decrease 1,469,000 (due to recession, 9/11, dot com bust cost 1 million jobs!)
  • 2003 130,100,000 decrease 350,000
  • 2004 131,509,000 increase 1,409,000
  • 2005 133,747,000 increase 2,238,000
  • 2006 136,125,000 increase 2,378,000
  • 2007 137,645,000 increase 1,520,000
  • 2008 136,852,000 decrease 793,000

end of Obama first year
  • 2009 130,876,000 decrease 5,976,000
  • 2010 129,917,000 decrease 959,000
  • 2011 131,497,000 increase 1,580,000
  • 2012 133,739,000 increase 2,242,000

NO WHERE in the REAL numbers has Obama come close to Bush's largest number of people employed in HISTORY in 2007 with 137,645,000!

PLUS ... Obama has NOT had ONE event equal any of the events Bush had to endure!

At the end of 8 years Bush had created 4,933,000 jobs AFTER having gone through the WORST experiences that NO president had ever endured which included:

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Over 845,000 jobs LOST due to events that NOT one President has ever had in their 8 years! Some Presidents have had bad weather, some attacks on USA,
some a depression... BUT NOT all of those events occurred in one 8 year administration! NEVER!!!

DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

Costliest U.S. Hurricanes | Weather Underground

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !

AGAIN would the idiot "kidrocks" that wrote this thread "Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush "
PLEASE refute ANY of the above sourced information!!!
 
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Big business had subsides in 2007. Then we had the wall street/Bush worst financial crash in the history of the world.
 
Big business had subsides in 2007. Then we had the wall street/Bush worst financial crash in the history of the world.
And of course ALL the above events I described had NO bearing right???

Well I didn't include the 4th major event which obviously yOU Have NO knowledge!!!

4) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/2008 or how the world almost came to the end at 2pm on 9/18/2008.
How close to entire collapse the ENTIRE world's economy was on 9/18/2008 when an economic terrorist attack occurred..

On Thursday (Sept 18), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The Treasury ...estimation is that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it."
Zero Hedge: How The World Almost Came To An End At 2PM On September 18

So again you've totally ignored the first 3 major cataclysmic events that cost almost $8 trillion in market,personal property,businesses, stocks,etc. due to
dot.com/9/11/hurricanes... NONE of that had ANY bearing...
And of course YOU obviously never heard of the above economic terrorist attack that George Soros et.al. plunged on the above money market fund hoping
to collapse the nation's and world's economy!!!
 
The increase in the stock market is due to the printing of funny money. We saw what happened at the hint that printing presses would slow down.
 
and for the 45% who still blame Bush for the 2008 debacle? were they living in a bubble? we all know what caused the crash. it can be summed up in one word,,,,,GREED! I want it, and I want it now! like that 300,000 home, 25,000 car, 100,000 in equity. And we all saw what happened when Pelosi/Reid gave mortgages to anyone breathing. did those greedy poor people know that when u buy a new home, u better have at least a one year supply cash on hand after the purchase?
 
Bush was great for the economy! :thup::thup::thup: :alcoholic:

That's what he'll be remembered for right? Being a miraculous fountain of job creation?

:laugh:

:cuckoo:
BUT you did NOT address any of the points I substantiated!

YOU tell a stupid ass joke which again just shows the sophomoric idiocy of people who can't read!

You clowns have obviously Forgotten the 8 years when 4 major events occurred that have NEVER occurred in any Presidency as they did with Bush!
And you joke???
Putzes like are just plain useless.
Did you know read much less remember that Bush faced those events, kept our country going in spite of dot.com/recession/9/11/worst hurricanes and
you don't give any credit for our making it through that period... and being better after then Obama has us now???
Obama doesn't create jobs...he destroys them!
Ask the coal industry what they think of Obama's "job creation"???
Ask the 41% of small businesses that ARE CUTTING peoples hours because of Obamacare's destruction of the health care system causing fewer hours!
AND YOU don't understand any of that do you!
 
OP- Yeah, great corrupt giant Pub bubble, fabulous SECOND Pub Great World Depression. Thank God Dems got in fast this time and averted it- Only cost 4-5 trillion dollars...
 
Bush was great for the economy! :thup::thup::thup: :alcoholic:

That's what he'll be remembered for right? Being a miraculous fountain of job creation?

:laugh:

:cuckoo:
BUT you did NOT address any of the points I substantiated!

YOU tell a stupid ass joke which again just shows the sophomoric idiocy of people who can't read!

You clowns have obviously Forgotten the 8 years when 4 major events occurred that have NEVER occurred in any Presidency as they did with Bush!
And you joke???
Putzes like are just plain useless.
Did you know read much less remember that Bush faced those events, kept our country going in spite of dot.com/recession/9/11/worst hurricanes and
you don't give any credit for our making it through that period... and being better after then Obama has us now???
Obama doesn't create jobs...he destroys them!
Ask the coal industry what they think of Obama's "job creation"???
Ask the 41% of small businesses that ARE CUTTING peoples hours because of Obamacare's destruction of the health care system causing fewer hours!
AND YOU don't understand any of that do you!

4 major events huh? We're still recovering from the way those were handled. You act like I'm the one who doesn't understand anything but you're the one still defending that embarrassing administration.

Obama's been toying with the goodwill of his supporters for 5 years and he's steadily failing on his promises... but he has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go before approaching ANYWHERE NEAR the awful damage that was done to this country between 2000 and 2006 :cool:
 
Maybe if the Messiah would pay attention to what Americans need, jobs, and stop diddling around with gun control, global warming, crony capitalism, and address the real issues confronting America we would have a chance, nope big dummy in the woods has been exposed for what he is a charlatan who is capable only of remaining on the campaign trail. Someone should wake him up and tell him the election is over, and its time to get down to business. Whoops, business is a bad evil thing. Maybe this explains why he never had a real job?
Franco, smoking pot kills brain cells, and lord knows you don't have many left to waste.
 
Any promises Obama failed to keep were because of total, mindless Pub obstruction. Many of his supporters have been dupes too of the Pub Propaganda machine (and the cowardly MSM). He's not God ...
 
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Maybe if the Messiah would pay attention to what Americans need, jobs, and stop diddling around with gun control, global warming, crony capitalism, and address the real issues confronting America we would have a chance, nope big dummy in the woods has been exposed for what he is a charlatan who is capable only of remaining on the campaign trail. Someone should wake him up and tell him the election is over, and its time to get down to business. Whoops, business is a bad evil thing. Maybe this explains why he never had a real job?
Franco, smoking pot kills brain cells, and lord knows you don't have many left to waste.

I think it's hilarious that conservatives make fun of democrats for thinking that Obama is the messiah. How many threads per day do you see on here from liberals praising Obama? Vs. threads from republicans obsessing over Reagan? Who's got the messiah complex again? :cool:

And then you go on to stress the importance of "real issues." Don't make me laugh :cuckoo:
 
and for the 45% who still blame Bush for the 2008 debacle? were they living in a bubble? we all know what caused the crash. it can be summed up in one word,,,,,GREED! I want it, and I want it now! like that 300,000 home, 25,000 car, 100,000 in equity. And we all saw what happened when Pelosi/Reid gave mortgages to anyone breathing. did those greedy poor people know that when u buy a new home, u better have at least a one year supply cash on hand after the purchase?

Hate to tell you this, but hardly anyone buying a house has one year's cash on hand. If that were the prerequisite to buying a home, only ten to twenty percent would be homeowners, because nobody else would be able to buy a home.

As for the cause of the crash, it was greed, but it wasn't so much greed from your average Joe, it was greed from speculators in the housing market. Those who received creative financing to buy their home would have been fine had they not ended up losing their jobs after the crash. It was those who were flipping houses like crazy that caused the bulk of the crash. Speculators were buying and flipping houses with profits of $20,000 to $100,000 per flip. They were buying houses so fast that they continued driving prices through the roof, and then they bought so many and one day they found out the only people left purchasing were other speculators. When all the speculators figured out there was nobody left to sell to, well the bottom fell out. The last two years before the housing crash, some states saw nearly 50% of all sales being made to people who already owned a home. The easy financing pushed a lot of this.
 
Bush was great for the economy! :thup::thup::thup: :alcoholic:

That's what he'll be remembered for right? Being a miraculous fountain of job creation?

:laugh:

:cuckoo:
BUT you did NOT address any of the points I substantiated!

YOU tell a stupid ass joke which again just shows the sophomoric idiocy of people who can't read!

You clowns have obviously Forgotten the 8 years when 4 major events occurred that have NEVER occurred in any Presidency as they did with Bush!
And you joke???
Putzes like are just plain useless.
Did you know read much less remember that Bush faced those events, kept our country going in spite of dot.com/recession/9/11/worst hurricanes and
you don't give any credit for our making it through that period... and being better after then Obama has us now???
Obama doesn't create jobs...he destroys them!
Ask the coal industry what they think of Obama's "job creation"???
Ask the 41% of small businesses that ARE CUTTING peoples hours because of Obamacare's destruction of the health care system causing fewer hours!
AND YOU don't understand any of that do you!

4 major events huh? We're still recovering from the way those were handled. You act like I'm the one who doesn't understand anything but you're the one still defending that embarrassing administration.

Obama's been toying with the goodwill of his supporters for 5 years and he's steadily failing on his promises... but he has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go before approaching ANYWHERE NEAR the awful damage that was done to this country between 2000 and 2006 :cool:

WHERE IS YOUR refuting my statements?
HOW would you have handled the 2001 Dot.com bust that started under Clinton and Bush just kept urging Americans to shop! Idiot 70% of GDP comes from consumers!
And of course you totally forgot the Gorelick Memo that prevented the CIA from telling FBI about the 9/11 bombers!
And are you telling ME that All the hurricanes worst seasons could have been stopped by Bush? Are you that f...king naive... OH yea you believe Obama's the Messiah!
Finally... you tell me what YOU would have done when $500 billion was withdrawn in 2 hours from the money market funds on 9/18/08?
Tell me what YOU would have done after 17 times warning Dodd/Frank/Congress we have a problem in housing!

Of course YOU can't refute these events occurred!

IDIOTS that don't use facts are USELESS!
 

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