NO EXIT? How will the U S be able to extricate itself from Trump's "little excursion"?

I would "rejoice at a positive change" if I perceived one. And (as you conveniently ignored) one must "kiss the wall" to ascend to the Presidency. One must also be very rich to ascend in politics. Trump received more than $2 Million from the Israelis, alone, to afford to campaign (not to mention the donations he received from many other lobbies and supporters like myself).

What you're asking me to do is "eat the bugs and like it." Sorry Charlie.

The American political system is rigged so that only members of the Swamp Club may represent the Oligarchy. All others need not apply.

And it has worked so well and for so long that I wonder if their power can ever be taken from them .
How do you teach Sheeple to see Evil and then rise to crush it forever?

We need to infiltrate McDonalds and introduce a range of Enlightment Burgers .
 
I would "rejoice at a positive change" if I perceived one. And (as you conveniently ignored) one must "kiss the wall" to ascend to the Presidency. One must also be very rich to ascend in politics. Trump received more than $2 Million from the Israelis, alone, to afford to campaign (not to mention the donations he received from many other lobbies and supporters like myself).

What you're asking me to do is "eat the bugs and like it." Sorry Charlie.

The American political system is rigged so that only members of the Swamp Club may represent the Oligarchy. All others need not apply.
So your strategy to help America and destroy the machine is to hate Trump and support the dumocraps? The dumocraps are the machine you are raging against. They are the pro-establishment pro- massive all controlling government party. I really only see you trashing Trump here and never see you trashing the dumocraps. Do you like what the dumocraps are offering today, yes or no? After a year of Trump, do you miss Biden and wish Harris was our POTUS? Let's see you trash the dumocraps just once, or I will be forced to believe you are a paid shill for them.
 
What has Trump articulated regarding his "endgame" and its schedule for his "little excursion" into the Middle East?
Not for your dumb ass to know. But if you think for a change, he has told you….End the regime, and let the people take over, plus, no ability to project terror, or nukes….what are you not understanding?
 
So your strategy to help America and destroy the machine is to hate Trump and support the dumocraps? The dumocraps are the machine you are raging against. They are the pro-establishment pro- massive all controlling government party. I really only see you trashing Trump here and never see you trashing the dumocraps. Do you like what the dumocraps are offering today, yes or no? After a year of Trump, do you miss Biden and wish Harris was our POTUS? Let's see you trash the dumocraps just once, or I will be forced to believe you are a paid shill for them.
My strategy to help America is to expose the liars, cheaters, and traitors running the show and to continually remind everyone that America is a Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is the Law of the Land. Not some power-mad, Israel-First oligarch who thinks he can rule the world with the stroke of his "Executive-Order" pen. My strategy is to be America First; patriotic; and nationalistic. My strategy is to remind everyone of the vision of the Founding Fathers and the reason why they broke from England in the first place.

As I've stated many times: I'm no fan of the DumboCrats nor am I a fan of the RepubliNuts.
 
My strategy to help America is to expose the liars, cheaters, and traitors running the show and to continually remind everyone that America is a Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is the Law of the Land. Not some power-mad, Israel-First oligarch who thinks he can rule the world with the stroke of his "Executive-Order" pen. My strategy is to be America First; patriotic; and nationalistic. My strategy is to remind everyone of the vision of the Founding Fathers and the reason why they broke from England in the first place.

As I've stated many times: I'm no fan of the DumboCrats nor am I a fan of the RepubliNuts.
I think you might have just discovered that water is wet. Everybody with critical thinking skills knows the US government is corrupt and the two parties will fight like cats and dogs over stuff like abortion, but when it comes to protecting the rich and making them richer they are all the same team. But ALL you seem to be willing to do about it is ***** about Trump on this little irrelevant forum. Something is not adding up. Why not make a third party? Why not make a bigger platform to expose all the corruption in the US government and force change? To me it seems you want to fix the country by trashing Trump one post at a time here and after 64K posts you have achieved absolutely nothing. Now, I'll admit Trump is not my first choice for POTUS, but he did close the border and is deporting violent illegal migrants. That alone is more than any other POTUS has done for many decades. Give the guy a break and maybe spend a little time telling us how corrupt the dumocraps are as well. Do you like Ilhan Omar? We don't know. Gavin Newsom? We don't know. But we certainly do know you hate the only POTUS to actually benefit America in many decades.
 
Not for your dumb ass to know. But if you think for a change, he has told you….End the regime, and let the people take over, plus, no ability to project terror, or nukes….what are you not understanding?
Yep.. j-mac ..As once again we see complete idiots who don't have a clue how our military works, our president works. Trump has given our military an objective, "End the regime, and let the people take over, plus, no ability to project terror, or nukes".. There has never been any recent former presidents who have said "let Iran have nukes". Trump is the only great leader with the balls to pull that trigger. These military folks are among the best in the world. They eat, sleep, live the military life.. This conflict has been war gamed and planned out the ying yang for years now. They have war gamed the best scenarios to the worst scenarios. As Iran changes their tactics we have the greatest minds to know how and with what we have available to counter those changes...

 
Yep.. j-mac ..As once again we see complete idiots who don't have a clue how our military works, our president works. Trump has given our military an objective, "End the regime, and let the people take over, plus, no ability to project terror, or nukes".. There has never been any recent former presidents who have said "let Iran have nukes".[/b[ Trump is the only great leader with the balls to pull that trigger. These military folks are among the best in the world. They eat, sleep, live the military life.. This conflict has been war gamed and planned out the ying yang for years now. They have war gamed the best scenarios to the worst scenarios. As Iran changes their tactics we have the greatest minds to know how and with what we have available to counter those changes...



But there has been, if not by direct statement, then by deeds, and actions.

Obama team negotiated a piss poor deal that Iran couldn’t develop nukes for only 10 years, but then dropped billions in cash to them, and turned a blind eye when they violated the deal.
 
My strategy to help America is to expose the liars, cheaters, and traitors running the show and to continually remind everyone that America is a Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is the Law of the Land. Not some power-mad, Israel-First oligarch who thinks he can rule the world with the stroke of his "Executive-Order" pen. My strategy is to be America First; patriotic; and nationalistic. My strategy is to remind everyone of the vision of the Founding Fathers and the reason why they broke from England in the first place.

As I've stated many times: I'm no fan of the DumboCrats nor am I a fan of the RepubliNuts.
You obviously missed a few history classes. As you hate Trump and think he walks around the White House bumping into walls and kicking the dog while eating a pile of Bic Macs. He is just keeping his campaign promises that got him elected.. What makes Trump the GOAT leader, he does what he says... here are the leaders who have let this fester to a head instead of actual doing something about it... oh, and the "nuke deals" were a joke the Iranians were playing us for...

Bill Clinton... Remarks to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee Policy Conference | The American Presidency Project

George W. Bush...
Bush: ‘Unforgivable’ to let Iran obtain nukes ...

Barack Obama..
Statement by the President on Iran ... https://www.cnn.com/2012/03/02/politics/obama-iran-israel

Joe Biden

 
Economics dictates the timetable.
Economics as in the price of oil? Our oil releases from the various reserves will buy a few months.
The fundamentalists only need to survive.
They know that time is on their side.
The fundies need to control the majority of the population, which has had enough of their failed governance.
 
Another little history lesson of our past with "the leading state sponsor of terror"

Obama's pallets of cash, he did it to "pay off" the Iranians (a designated state sponsor of terror) in exchange for the release of American detainees and the implementation of the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA). The Obama administration explained that cash was necessary due to the "effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions (Iran's funds) regimes" that blocked normal financial channels..... meaning he "bought them off"

The pink elephant in the room is Obama sent primarily euros, Swiss francs instead of US currency. This was done precisely because U.S. sanctions and laws prohibited transactions with Iran using U.S. dollars or involving the U.S. financial system. Physical cash in foreign currencies was the workaround. AKA money laundering.
State sponsor of terror will do just that... keep hostages for ransom

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What is the history we have with the "number one state sponsor of terror" and why Trump pulled the trigger...

Reagan administration declared Iran as a state sponsor of terror in 1984, Iran is considered a state sponsor of terrorism because it actively supports groups and organizations that use violence to achieve their goals. Iran works with specific groups in other countries, like Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthi rebels in Yemen and Hamas-led attacks on Israel. These groups do Iran's "dirty work" by attacking Iran's enemies, like Israel and the United States, without Iran having to do it directly.
https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/sys_attachment.do?sys_id=d1a89864db159b0044f9ff621f961918
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https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1984-01-23/pdf/FR-1984-01-23.pdf

2019 Trump, the U.S. designates Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...y-guard-corps-foreign-terrorist-organization/

2021 Biden documents and justify why the U.S. views Iran as the leading state sponsor ofterrorism in 2021, reaffirming its longstanding designation (since January 19, 1984) and detailing its alleged support for terrorist activities worldwide.
Technical Difficulties

All presidents from Clinton till now have repeatedly declared Iran should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

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What is the history we have with the "number one state sponsor of terror" and why Trump pulled the trigger...

Reagan administration declared Iran as a state sponsor of terror in 1984, Iran is considered a state sponsor of terrorism because it actively supports groups and organizations that use violence to achieve their goals. Iran works with specific groups in other countries, like Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthi rebels in Yemen and Hamas-led attacks on Israel. These groups do Iran's "dirty work" by attacking Iran's enemies, like Israel and the United States, without Iran having to do it directly.
https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/sys_attachment.do?sys_id=d1a89864db159b0044f9ff621f961918
page 104
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1984-01-23/pdf/FR-1984-01-23.pdf

2019 Trump, the U.S. designates Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...y-guard-corps-foreign-terrorist-organization/

2021 Biden documents and justify why the U.S. views Iran as the leading state sponsor ofterrorism in 2021, reaffirming its longstanding designation (since January 19, 1984) and detailing its alleged support for terrorist activities worldwide.
Technical Difficulties

All presidents from Clinton till now have repeatedly declared Iran should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

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What is the history we have with the "number one state sponsor of terror" and why Trump pulled the trigger...

Reagan administration declared Iran as a state sponsor of terror in 1984, Iran is considered a state sponsor of terrorism because it actively supports groups and organizations that use violence to achieve their goals. Iran works with specific groups in other countries, like Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Houthi rebels in Yemen and Hamas-led attacks on Israel. These groups do Iran's "dirty work" by attacking Iran's enemies, like Israel and the United States, without Iran having to do it directly.
https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/sys_attachment.do?sys_id=d1a89864db159b0044f9ff621f961918
page 104
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1984-01-23/pdf/FR-1984-01-23.pdf

2019 Trump, the U.S. designates Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...y-guard-corps-foreign-terrorist-organization/

2021 Biden documents and justify why the U.S. views Iran as the leading state sponsor ofterrorism in 2021, reaffirming its longstanding designation (since January 19, 1984) and detailing its alleged support for terrorist activities worldwide.
Technical Difficulties

All presidents from Clinton till now have repeatedly declared Iran should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

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People don't understand history, they only understand what the talking heads on the MSM tell them on that day to understand. Every POTUS since Carter has denounced Iran and then kicked that can down the road to the next POTUS. Finally a POTUS decides to kick Iran instead of that can, and the entire left starts crying. Every POTUS since Washington has decried how important it is to have a well protected border. Jesus, having a POTUS that can get things done, that many dumocrap POTUSes wanted done, is the worst thing to ever happen to America. This is why I refuse to listen to the dumocraps and those that sound suspiciously like dumocraps.
 
Well, shouldn't be too difficult. Like Venezuela, just declare some kind of victory and leave. Doesn't even have to be true. Nothing ever is with Trump.
Trump's damage to the dirty fuel market is now baked into the system.

The war on Iran has already disrupted the Gulf region’s energy markets so significantly that a quick recovery is no longer possible, said Anas Alhajji, a global energy markets expert. A mounting backlog of tankers on both sides of the Strait of Hormuz, which has been effectively shut down for more than a week, will take at least two weeks to clear. Then there will need to be a return to oil and gas production in a growing number of Middle Eastern countries that have now been shut down, including Qatar, Bahrain, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Some of the damage from Iranian attacks, such as those on Qatar’s natural gas facilities, cannot be easily repaired, he said.
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“Ending the war does not mean ending the crisis,” Alhajji said. “We have countries that literally shut down production because their storage is full. To bring back that oil to a pre-crisis level takes time. For [liquefied natural gas] in particular, it takes a very long time.”
 
Really?

Is this the first time that America's so-called allies have sat back and watched us do the fighting?

We can either stand up to Iran now, or let them keep attacking us and hope they don't use is when they finally develop a nuke.
Four more heroes died for Saudi Arabia and Israel.
 
Isa_5:13 Therefore my people go into captivity for lack of knowledge. Their honorable men are famished, and their multitudes are parched with thirst.

Hos_4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.

A major problem with those who follow the Democrat, & Republican Leaders/Parties, In My Firm Belief, is that they Failed to Research what these Leaders have proclaimed.

But since I've been "doing my homework", since Bush Sr. became POTUS,, I Absolutely am A Strong Conservative, but,.... I'm no longer a Republican, nor do I Trust Trump.
 
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Yeah, we're quickly getting to a point at which Trump will have to get the hell out and pretend he won.

That will be a tough sell, obviously, but as delusional and clueless as he is, it may make sense to him.

The wild card here is Bebe, and it's fair to wonder if he's holding something over Trump's head right now.
Likud has a separate agenda that does not include timely withdrawal.

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Likud has a separate agenda that does not include timely withdrawal.

Bebe wants to turn Iran into a parking lot. If Trump declares some ersatz "victory" and skips, Bebe's left holding the bag.

Trump knows the clock is ticking for him, and it's worse with Hormuz now.

Bebe wouldn't like us leaving. Then it gets even MORE dramatic.

:popcorn:
 
Not for your dumb ass to know. But if you think for a change, he has told you….End the regime, and let the people take over, plus, no ability to project terror, or nukes….what are you not understanding?
"Let the people take over."

How's that going for you?

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