My son may have ADHD

[eots]

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[Samson]

The ADHD is just as much a brain disorder as any other brain disorder: You seem to have conveniently decided that children are somehow immune to having brain disorders, which is an irresponsible and dangerous position.

no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Try to ******* keep up.

I cannot spoon feed you every single piece of evidence twice:

Within my previous post: From the Center for Diease Control:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/275316-my-son-may-have-adhd-6.html#post6729630

 

[eots]

The ADHD is just as much a brain disorder as any other brain disorder: You seem to have conveniently decided that children are somehow immune to having brain disorders, which is an irresponsible and dangerous position.

no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Try to ******* keep up.

I cannot spoon feed you every single piece of evidence twice:

Within my previous post: From the Center for Diease Control:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/275316-my-son-may-have-adhd-6.html#post6729630

Signs and Symptoms
It is normal for children to have trouble focusing and behaving at one time or another. However, children with ADHD do not just grow out of these behaviors. The symptoms continue and can cause difficulty at school, at home, or with friends.
A child with ADHD might:

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

This is the science your ridiculous link offers...lol..you clown..you are so out of your league

 

[koshergrl]

Again, I wasn't talking about yanking everybody's meds. I know very well that medicating children the age of Luissa's son, for hyperactivity, is foolish. Kids are all over the place when they're developing and their brains are still developing. Anyone with half a brain must realize that using amphetamines and other, mood altering chemicals that affect the brain directly is going to have a long term effect...and it won't be a positive one. Again, we're not talking about kids who hear voices, or who are having seizures. These are kids who have trouble focusing, and who bounce around.

No you really don't know shit about the medical condition of anyone, unless you are a DR and have examined them.

Neither do I.

The ADHD is just as much a brain disorder as any other brain disorder: You seem to have conveniently decided that children are somehow immune to having brain disorders, which is an irresponsible and dangerous position.

no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Yeah...so what is the test for ADHD? It's not a brain disorder. It's a condition that consists of a variety of "symptoms" that, each taken alone or even in groups, signify nothing. It's when they are all evident in the body of one child that they want to medicate.

They're difficult behaviors. That's no reason to fry your kid's brain.

 

[eots]

your whole argument is a fluffy little government site told me so...


Scientists are studying cause(s) and risk factors in an effort to find better ways to manage and reduce the chances of a person having ADHD. The cause(s) and risk factors for ADHD are unknown,

CDC - ADHD, Facts - NCBDDD

 

[eots]

The effects of ritlian use however are well known and measurable in the child's brain

Abstract
Ritalin, or methylphenidate, is often used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity
disorder (ADHD) and attention deficit disorder (ADD). Some of the many long-term
effects of Ritalin use are reduced cerebral blood flow, increased energy consumption in
many areas of the brain, permanent loss of brain tissue, life-long increased sensitivity to
cocaine, and life-long increased rates of depression and anxiety.
Introduction
Ritalin, or methylphenidate, is commonly prescribed as treatment for attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and attention deficit disorder (ADD). It is
estimated that 750,000 to 1 million school children are receiving 20 million prescriptions
for stimulant medications and the figure is still growing (IMS Health 2002).
Many of the long-term effects of Ritalin use stay with the patient for life. This is
primarily because of the fact that Ritalin is most often used during childhood and
adolescence while the brain is still developing.
Constricts Blood Flow to the Brain
Investigators from the Brookhaven National Laboratory used PET scans to study
the effects of Ritalin on overall cerebral blood flow. They measured the effect of clinical
doses of Ritalin on blood flow in normal volunteers. They found that Ritalin decreased
the overall flow of blood into the brain. The loss was large: 23-30% in all areas of the
brain, including the higher brain centers in the frontal lobes, as well as in the basal
ganglia deeper in the brain. The changes were a sufficiently dramatic to be grossly

http://www.neurosoup.com/pdf/effects_of_longterm_ritalin_use.pdf

 

[Samson]

No you really don't know shit about the medical condition of anyone, unless you are a DR and have examined them.

Neither do I.
no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Yeah...so what is the test for ADHD? It's not a brain disorder. It's a condition that consists of a variety of "symptoms" that, each taken alone or even in groups, signify nothing. It's when they are all evident in the body of one child that they want to medicate.

They're difficult behaviors. That's no reason to fry your kid's brain.

Well, I guess you know more than the entire Center for Disease Control and World Health Organization:

About half of mental disorders begin before the age of 14. Around 20% of the world's children and adolescents are estimated to have mental disorders or problems, with similar types of disorders being reported across cultures.

 

[Samson]

your whole argument is a fluffy little government site told me so...


Scientists are studying cause(s) and risk factors in an effort to find better ways to manage and reduce the chances of a person having ADHD. The cause(s) and risk factors for ADHD are unknown,

CDC - ADHD, Facts - NCBDDD

So what?

Because causes of a disease are unknown, it doesn't exist?

Grow the **** up.

 

[Samson]

no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Try to ******* keep up.

I cannot spoon feed you every single piece of evidence twice:

Within my previous post: From the Center for Diease Control:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/275316-my-son-may-have-adhd-6.html#post6729630

Signs and Symptoms
It is normal for children to have trouble focusing and behaving at one time or another. However, children with ADHD do not just grow out of these behaviors. The symptoms continue and can cause difficulty at school, at home, or with friends.
A child with ADHD might:

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

This is the science your ridiculous link offers...lol..you clown..you are so out of your league

Poor, poor eots.

 

[eots]

No you really don't know shit about the medical condition of anyone, unless you are a DR and have examined them.

Neither do I.
no link ..no credibility not even a youtube video

Yeah...so what is the test for ADHD? It's not a brain disorder. It's a condition that consists of a variety of "symptoms" that, each taken alone or even in groups, signify nothing. It's when they are all evident in the body of one child that they want to medicate.

They're difficult behaviors. That's no reason to fry your kid's brain.

Well, I guess you know more than the entire Center for Disease Control and World Health Organization:

About half of mental disorders begin before the age of 14. Around 20% of the world's children and adolescents are estimated to have mental disorders or problems, with similar types of disorders being reported across cultures.

No we do not suffer from your appeal to authority..and instead use critical thinking and empirical evidence as do the legions of licensed physicians and psychiatrist that have lead the cause of informing people of the dangers of these treatments..efforts of those like the chairman of the DSM taking responsibility for the creation of a false epidemic..those that fought to have ssris banned for children throughout europe..in 1952 the noble prize was awarded for the lobotomy by people much like your world health organization

Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize
Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize

 

[eots]

Try to ******* keep up.

I cannot spoon feed you every single piece of evidence twice:

Within my previous post: From the Center for Diease Control:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/health-and-lifestyle/275316-my-son-may-have-adhd-6.html#post6729630

Signs and Symptoms
It is normal for children to have trouble focusing and behaving at one time or another. However, children with ADHD do not just grow out of these behaviors. The symptoms continue and can cause difficulty at school, at home, or with friends.
A child with ADHD might:

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

This is the science your ridiculous link offers...lol..you clown..you are so out of your league

Poor, poor eots.

it just the truth you are completely uninformed and your logic completely flawed

 

[Liability]

id-eots doesn't understand thing one about the nature of the science of the human mind, but when he finds a conspiracy theory, he latches on like a hungry newborn baby to a mommy's nipple.

 

[Samson]

Yeah...so what is the test for ADHD? It's not a brain disorder. It's a condition that consists of a variety of "symptoms" that, each taken alone or even in groups, signify nothing. It's when they are all evident in the body of one child that they want to medicate.

They're difficult behaviors. That's no reason to fry your kid's brain.

Well, I guess you know more than the entire Center for Disease Control and World Health Organization:

About half of mental disorders begin before the age of 14. Around 20% of the world's children and adolescents are estimated to have mental disorders or problems, with similar types of disorders being reported across cultures.

No we do not suffer from your appeal to authority..and instead use critical thinking and empirical evidence as do the legions of licensed physicians and psychiatrist that have lead the cause of informing people of the dangers of these treatments..efforts of those like the chairman of the DSM taking responsibility for the creation of a false epidemic..those that fought to have ssris banned for children throughout europe..in 1952 the noble prize was awarded for the lobotomy by people much like your world health organization

Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize
Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize

The best you can do is compare medicine today with medicine 70 years ago.

***pitiful***


Why stop there? Why not go back to the middle ages?

Maybe we should stop ALL perscriptions! After all, mercury was once perscribed for constipation!

 

[eots]

id-eots doesn't understand thing one about the nature of the science of the human mind, but when he finds a conspiracy theory, he latches on like a hungry newborn baby to a mommy's nipple.

blah blah blah ...do you wish to challenge me on any facts ?...No of course you dont..as you are completely incapable of doing so...take your mommys nipple drivel and **** off loser

 

[Samson]

id-eots doesn't understand thing one about the nature of the science of the human mind, but when he finds a conspiracy theory, he latches on like a hungry newborn baby to a mommy's nipple.

I find him slightly more entertaining that truthmatters.


He seems to have branched from whatever evolutionary limb she is on, and developed the skill to insert you-tube videos into a post as well as dig beetle larve from rotting logs.

 

[eots]

Well, I guess you know more than the entire Center for Disease Control and World Health Organization:

About half of mental disorders begin before the age of 14. Around 20% of the world's children and adolescents are estimated to have mental disorders or problems, with similar types of disorders being reported across cultures.

No we do not suffer from your appeal to authority..and instead use critical thinking and empirical evidence as do the legions of licensed physicians and psychiatrist that have lead the cause of informing people of the dangers of these treatments..efforts of those like the chairman of the DSM taking responsibility for the creation of a false epidemic..those that fought to have ssris banned for children throughout europe..in 1952 the noble prize was awarded for the lobotomy by people much like your world health organization

Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize
Controversial Psychosurgery Resulted in a Nobel Prize

The best you can do is compare medicine today with medicine 70 years ago.

***pitiful***


Why stop there? Why not go back to the middle ages?

Maybe we should ALL perscriptions! After all, mercury was once perscribed for constipation!

It is a valid point it is very recent history the practice was carried on for decades after it received the noble prize and if we do not learn from history we repeat it as we do know with these chemical lobotomys and you adress nothing else I said .. clearly what is pathetic is how you cling to your denial in the face of all evidence

 

[eots]

id-eots doesn't understand thing one about the nature of the science of the human mind, but when he finds a conspiracy theory, he latches on like a hungry newborn baby to a mommy's nipple.

I find him slightly more entertaining that truthmatters.


He seems to have branched from whatever evolutionary limb she is on, and developed the skill to insert you-tube videos into a post as well as dig beetle larve from rotting logs.

you are beat admit it..all you have presented is meaningless straw man post
and your silly child like cdc link

 

[Samson]

id-eots doesn't understand thing one about the nature of the science of the human mind, but when he finds a conspiracy theory, he latches on like a hungry newborn baby to a mommy's nipple.

I find him slightly more entertaining that truthmatters.


He seems to have branched from whatever evolutionary limb she is on, and developed the skill to insert you-tube videos into a post as well as dig beetle larve from rotting logs.

you are beat admit it..all you have presented is meaningless straw man post
and your silly child like cdc link

Yeah, that's very convincing.


Thanks for playing.

 

[eots]

what a goof-ball..if you feel capable of disputing any of my facts please do so..otherwise you just keep playing posting your meaningless words and little cartoon characters..I think this thread and the intelligent informed contributions from myself and those that share my understanding..compared to the contribution of you and liarabilty says it all

 

[Samson]

what a goof-ball..if you feel capable of disputing any of my facts please do so..otherwise you just keep playing posting your meaningless words and little cartoon characters..I think this thread and the intelligent informed contributions from myself and those that share my understanding..compared to the contribution of you and liarabilty says it all

Meltdown....in 5...4...3..