"My Body, My Choice": The Worst Abortion Talking Points

[Frankeneinstein]

Go to bed, Frank. Somebody needs a nap.

Yeah OK, and we'll just forget all about that nasty little minority thing right?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Go to bed, Frank. Somebody needs a nap.

Yeah OK, and we'll just forget all about that nasty little minority thing right?

{Sigh}
OK. I think that you should start a thread about race and abortion right way.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

OK. I think that you should start a thread about race and abortion right way.

or ya could just answer the question

 

[beautress]

Frank, you can not bait me on this, because the pro-lifers have permanently lost this battle. Speaking for the females in my family, including my wife, daughter, and granddaughter, nobody in America is going to control their bodies. It really is as simple as that. I have already explained why, and feel no need to repeat it. I really don't care if they are in denial about having lost the fight.

SAYS WHO?

Says me and my family. And, we are comforted by the fact that no woman has ever been incarcerated and convicted of anything for getting an abortion, and it will not happen in the future, either. But if the SC overturns Row Vs Wade, and if California then outlaws abortion, and if the over the counter drugs available in Europe that induce abortion at home become unavailable, be sure to send me a PM. As for the privacy issue, I really don't give a rat's ass. We are pro-choice, and that is here to stay.

You may be right, but that still doesn't make or prove abortion is a constitutional right...never did never will

Fine with me, as long as it is available. if all else fails, we simply go back to the 1960's, when there were no abortions, and millions of D & C's.

Is this available enough for you, Vandalshandle? There are plenty of places one can still murder exterminate one's baby and get free prizes for it:

​

I do not believe paying for people's birth control measure called abortion is the responsibility of the public at large. It has opened the door to women who want to follow lust as a lifestyle and still not have to pay for this crime against humanity. Abortion is the mean, thoughtless, painful-to-the-unborn-American-citizen assassination of America's future and posterity. It greatly grieves me to think that people of religion have to pay for the sexual promiscuity of male predators and relieve them of their traditional responsibility to pay for their own children's upbringing, and not their extermination fees which can currently cost from $900 to $3,000 unless one is of color, in which the fee is $0 to the woman of color and $900 to $3,000 to the taxpayer in the United States of America. It is the only fee that supercedes the First Amendment which says there is freedom of Religion. How can that be when a taxpayer's church is against abortion, and the family has to put out to pay for other people to have abortions without the right to know that one of them could be their daughter. That also violates the First Amendment freedom of religion. You can't have freedom of religion against abortion in this nation. People are worried they will lose their First Amendment rights. Well, they can just forget about it. Their Freedom of Religion went away in 1973 with Roe v. Wade and all that has been litigated over abortion since that time that cremates religious rights into a neat little box of ashes, violating religious freedom to raise one's children in the family belief system by letting somebody else choose their version of atheism against the religious family's child. The founders roll in their graves. Oh, and States rights? Not any more! The Federal Goverment pussies in Congress did away with states rights too, using Roe v. Wade and all its litigations against the taxpayer since that time. They never mentioned it as being placed on the responsibility of all other taxpayers, but that's who pays for it. The supporters of abortion have unduly placed payment due certificates on the account of each and every taxpayer and working class citizen in this nation to pay for other people's sex choices. And I'm madder than hell about it and the jackasses who jack off about it here, bragging about it like it was some damn thing to be proud of. It isn't. It is the blatant picking of pockets of strangers to pay for the most criminal use of sex for money.

 

[beautress]

Oh, and if you're worried about your regional area, here's a more refined map of the hoodwinking of American Communities who have to pay for the sexual misconduct of other people through the abortion system of extracting tax money from YOUR pocket.

Source: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/usabig11.gif
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[Monk-Eye]

" Hubris Of Minority Status When Comparing Global Versus Domestic Population "

* Pandering Fake Sentiments About Racial Concerns And Abortion *

Yeah OK, and we'll just forget all about that nasty little minority thing right?

Between 0% and 200% of the poverty line have 75% of abortions and approximately 59% of women who have abortion already have children .

Having children drops women out of the employment market and Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act - Wikipedia ensured that having more babies did not include a reward of stipend to promote generational welfare .

The bifurcated minds of the religious riech feign to promote fiscal accountability while deriding to spay , neuter , or otherwise fund birth control for their hue mammon pets , as if lacking any clear foresight for social welfare costs or consequences towards facilitating third world slums .

Apparently , such puritanical ideologues need sufficient numbers of destitute to prop up themselves as the purveyors for pity .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Money Supply And Fiat Currency Created Out Of Thin Air "

* Hood Winking *

Oh, and if you're worried about your regional area, here's a more refined map of the hoodwinking of American Communities who have to pay for the sexual misconduct of other people through the abortion system of extracting tax money from YOUR pocket.

That the terms " sexual misconduct " were applied is hilarious .

Would having kids while otherwise being incapable of sufficiently paying an egalitarian fair share of public services for their rearing them be considered sexual misconduct , as well ?

* Loves Data *

By the way , thanks for the map .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Traffickers Of Sexual Obsession "

I do not believe paying for people's birth control measure called abortion is the responsibility of the public at large. It has opened the door to women who want to follow lust as a lifestyle and still not have to pay for this crime against humanity. Abortion is the mean, thoughtless, painful-to-the-unborn-American-citizen assassination of America's future and posterity. It greatly grieves me to think that people of religion have to pay for the sexual promiscuity of male predators and relieve them of their traditional responsibility to pay for their own children's upbringing, and not their extermination fees which can currently cost from $900 to $3,000 unless one is of color, in which the fee is $0 to the woman of color and $900 to $3,000 to the taxpayer in the United States of America. It is the only fee that supercedes the First Amendment which says there is freedom of Religion. How can that be when a taxpayer's church is against abortion, and the family has to put out to pay for other people to have abortions without the right to know that one of them could be their daughter. That also violates the First Amendment freedom of religion. You can't have freedom of religion against abortion in this nation. People are worried they will lose their First Amendment rights. Well, they can just forget about it. Their Freedom of Religion went away in 1973 with Roe v. Wade and all that has been litigated over abortion since that time that cremates religious rights into a neat little box of ashes, violating religious freedom to raise one's children in the family belief system by letting somebody else choose their version of atheism against the religious family's child. The founders roll in their graves. Oh, and States rights? Not any more! The Federal Goverment pussies in Congress did away with states rights too, using Roe v. Wade and all its litigations against the taxpayer since that time. They never mentioned it as being placed on the responsibility of all other taxpayers, but that's who pays for it. The supporters of abortion have unduly placed payment due certificates on the account of each and every taxpayer and working class citizen in this nation to pay for other people's sex choices. And I'm madder than hell about it and the jackasses who jack off about it here, bragging about it like it was some damn thing to be proud of. It isn't. It is the blatant picking of pockets of strangers to pay for the most criminal use of sex for money.

* Certainly Sum Due *

There is a difference between direct taxes and indirect taxes - Indirect tax - Wikipedia .

Indirect taxes are collected indirectly through commerce by the government to manage commerce and those funds can be applied indirectly to include for the social well being of workers ; alternatively , direct taxes are collected directly from individuals and are to be applied directly , as near as possible , for the benefit of those from who they are collected .

Are you complaining about direct taxes or indirect taxes being used for abortion , because the only valid contention regards direct taxes that most likely does not occur ?

* My Money Goes Where Check Box *

Why does the religious riech promote funding for abstinence only programs to adults around the world when the us should be be world leader in prophylactic distribution ?

* Empathy For Pain Requires Science *

Sentience requires Thalamocortical radiations - Wikipedia that bridge the autonomic nervous system of the thalamus to the higher order thinking of the cortex , and those do not begin to onset any earlier than the 23rd week with sentience not expected any earlier than the 26th to 29th week .

The onset of sentience occurs similarly along a timeline as does viability , so " painful-to-the-unborn " is not a valid ethical premise at any time prior .

Similarly to the left dramatizing mass shootings to remove a second amendment wright , the right raises third trimester abortions to outlaw all abortion .

 

[Vandalshandle]

Frank, you can not bait me on this, because the pro-lifers have permanently lost this battle. Speaking for the females in my family, including my wife, daughter, and granddaughter, nobody in America is going to control their bodies. It really is as simple as that. I have already explained why, and feel no need to repeat it. I really don't care if they are in denial about having lost the fight.

SAYS WHO?

Says me and my family. And, we are comforted by the fact that no woman has ever been incarcerated and convicted of anything for getting an abortion, and it will not happen in the future, either. But if the SC overturns Row Vs Wade, and if California then outlaws abortion, and if the over the counter drugs available in Europe that induce abortion at home become unavailable, be sure to send me a PM. As for the privacy issue, I really don't give a rat's ass. We are pro-choice, and that is here to stay.

You may be right, but that still doesn't make or prove abortion is a constitutional right...never did never will

Fine with me, as long as it is available. if all else fails, we simply go back to the 1960's, when there were no abortions, and millions of D & C's.

Is this available enough for you, Vandalshandle? There are plenty of places one can still murder exterminate one's baby and get free prizes for it:

​

I do not believe paying for people's birth control measure called abortion is the responsibility of the public at large. It has opened the door to women who want to follow lust as a lifestyle and still not have to pay for this crime against humanity. Abortion is the mean, thoughtless, painful-to-the-unborn-American-citizen assassination of America's future and posterity. It greatly grieves me to think that people of religion have to pay for the sexual promiscuity of male predators and relieve them of their traditional responsibility to pay for their own children's upbringing, and not their extermination fees which can currently cost from $900 to $3,000 unless one is of color, in which the fee is $0 to the woman of color and $900 to $3,000 to the taxpayer in the United States of America. It is the only fee that supercedes the First Amendment which says there is freedom of Religion. How can that be when a taxpayer's church is against abortion, and the family has to put out to pay for other people to have abortions without the right to know that one of them could be their daughter. That also violates the First Amendment freedom of religion. You can't have freedom of religion against abortion in this nation. People are worried they will lose their First Amendment rights. Well, they can just forget about it. Their Freedom of Religion went away in 1973 with Roe v. Wade and all that has been litigated over abortion since that time that cremates religious rights into a neat little box of ashes, violating religious freedom to raise one's children in the family belief system by letting somebody else choose their version of atheism against the religious family's child. The founders roll in their graves. Oh, and States rights? Not any more! The Federal Goverment pussies in Congress did away with states rights too, using Roe v. Wade and all its litigations against the taxpayer since that time. They never mentioned it as being placed on the responsibility of all other taxpayers, but that's who pays for it. The supporters of abortion have unduly placed payment due certificates on the account of each and every taxpayer and working class citizen in this nation to pay for other people's sex choices. And I'm madder than hell about it and the jackasses who jack off about it here, bragging about it like it was some damn thing to be proud of. It isn't. It is the blatant picking of pockets of strangers to pay for the most criminal use of sex for money.

I a not aware of any tax money paying for abortions. In fact, as I recall Hobby Lobby won their case to exclude it as a covered benefit under their employee health plan, and Planned parenthood can only use government funding for other women's health issues. That pretty much voids your entire rant on the subject.

This Is How Much Taxpayer Money Goes To Abortions

 

[Cecilie1200]

Murdering another living human being is not a fundamental right. This thinking puts us on the same plane as Hitler. A fetus is a living being from conception when cell began to divide and grow toward a full grown human being. Everything has a beginning and the fetus is the beginning of a growing human being.

The problem with this sophistry, of course, is that in order for it to be valid, it must be applied consistently – where the state would need to do more than just ‘ban’ abortion, it would also need to ‘ban’ all manner of birth control, including condoms, IUDs, and the pill.

"You can't do it unless you do it according to MY definition of what's required for a position I don't hold!"

Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that we're obligated to accept your viewpoint on things.

 

[LilOlLady]

I don't understand and have no respect for doctors who perform abortions. I blame them more than the women because the aim of medicine is, according to the [Hippocratic] Oath, to heal and not to kill.

The Oath made clear what it means to 'do no harm.' The meaning of 'injury or wrongdoing' was named specifically as abortion, euthanasia, sexual abuse, and breach of confidentiality. In contrast, in postmodern medicine, the interpretation of what constitutes 'harm' lies in the eye of the beholder. The Kevorkian spectacle has illustrated this... The jury accepted Kevorkian’s defense that he was only aiming at the relief of suffering and he was set free. No one pointed out the obvious that the means used to relieve suffering was to kill the patient. This case, along with others that followed, contributed to the deconstruction of Hippocratic medicine and the subsequent promotion of postmodern medicine; moving the profession of medicine away from the aim of healing and into the murky waters of relief of suffering through assisted suicide and euthanasia.

 

[Coyote]

The Declaration states, “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”
A life is created at conception.

“all Men are created equal” ...
What about Women? Apparently, they were not, in the eyes of your country’s founders. Women could not vote until the 20th century, and are still being controlled by the 80% of US Congress members who are Men. Shame.

A Women’s body (including everything in it) is HER domain, and only SHE decides.
A person is created at birth.

You can say whatever stupid thing you want to say, but when in society, you go after someone's neck, that's where your freedom ends and theirs begins.

What the hateful women's superiority groups don't know is that it could be the American people have had enough of hearing how abortion clinics are actually killing fields that rival Chinese genocide against themselves in the few years surrounding WWII, and while the rest of the world was preoccupied with going after each other's armies, Mao was going after harmless citizens of his own country for the "crime" of speaking against him. His killings were so vast, some say he killed 100 million of his own people. Others put the figure as anywhere between 20 million and 60 million. Others call the killings "countless." His killing spree surpassed Russia's similar killings of farmers as well as Russia's gentry, and Mao killed more people than Hitler did. Socialists to horrible things once they get power, from the first minute until the last. The Soviet Socialist Republic was a terrible place to be during war years. Lenin's murders have no place in the civil world. He killed innocent farmers just because they were stubborn and wanted to have some say so in all things agricultural. He wasn't hearing of it, so he bloody starved them to death with cat-and-mouse maneuvers of the KGB to empty farmhouses of food as long as it took for the farmers to die off of starvation. What fools. It resulted in long lines at the markets all over Russia while oranges rotted on the trees, people died of scurvy. Unbelievably, Lenin was a really creepy foot shoot specialist.

The only thing positive that came out of it for America is that those of us who had good history programs from first grade on up knew that Russian people were having hard times because of the Weekly Reader program. What nobody seemed to know except for Eisenhower was that Linen was killing off his own. And now when AOC brags about being a Socialist, all I can do is envision her in a KGB outfit killing off the best people in America that she likes to poop all over.

That was a general non-specific rant.
Anything specific you want to address about a woman’s right to her own body (this thread) or about what specific language AOC said about the abortion issue?

When a woman chose to get pregnant by having sex, her body is no longer hers. She is sharing it with another human being. No matter what the government say.

Her body is always hers. No one else has a right to it. Including the government.

 

[Coyote]

Citizens aren’t required to ‘justify’ the exercising of a fundamental right as a ‘prerequisite’ to indeed do so, such as the right to privacy.

Except where the second amendment is concerned.

A woman’s reason or reasons for ending her pregnancy are hers alone, having no bearing whatsoever on what another woman might decide.

says who?

The woman. The one who’s body you want Big Government to control.

 

[Coyote]

“all Men are created equal” ...
What about Women? Apparently, they were not, in the eyes of your country’s founders. Women could not vote until the 20th century, and are still being controlled by the 80% of US Congress members who are Men. Shame.

A Women’s body (including everything in it) is HER domain, and only SHE decides.
A person is created at birth.

You can say whatever stupid thing you want to say, but when in society, you go after someone's neck, that's where your freedom ends and theirs begins.

What the hateful women's superiority groups don't know is that it could be the American people have had enough of hearing how abortion clinics are actually killing fields that rival Chinese genocide against themselves in the few years surrounding WWII, and while the rest of the world was preoccupied with going after each other's armies, Mao was going after harmless citizens of his own country for the "crime" of speaking against him. His killings were so vast, some say he killed 100 million of his own people. Others put the figure as anywhere between 20 million and 60 million. Others call the killings "countless." His killing spree surpassed Russia's similar killings of farmers as well as Russia's gentry, and Mao killed more people than Hitler did. Socialists to horrible things once they get power, from the first minute until the last. The Soviet Socialist Republic was a terrible place to be during war years. Lenin's murders have no place in the civil world. He killed innocent farmers just because they were stubborn and wanted to have some say so in all things agricultural. He wasn't hearing of it, so he bloody starved them to death with cat-and-mouse maneuvers of the KGB to empty farmhouses of food as long as it took for the farmers to die off of starvation. What fools. It resulted in long lines at the markets all over Russia while oranges rotted on the trees, people died of scurvy. Unbelievably, Lenin was a really creepy foot shoot specialist.

The only thing positive that came out of it for America is that those of us who had good history programs from first grade on up knew that Russian people were having hard times because of the Weekly Reader program. What nobody seemed to know except for Eisenhower was that Linen was killing off his own. And now when AOC brags about being a Socialist, all I can do is envision her in a KGB outfit killing off the best people in America that she likes to poop all over.

That was a general non-specific rant.
Anything specific you want to address about a woman’s right to her own body (this thread) or about what specific language AOC said about the abortion issue?

When a woman chose to get pregnant by having sex, her body is no longer hers. She is sharing it with another human being. No matter what the government say.

Nope. A woman’s body and a man’s body are COMPLETELY in their own decision-making domains.
If a man transfers his semen to a woman, whether voluntary or rape, that sperm becomes the sole property of her body & mind (as well as husband’s in secondary order).
That developing mindless “human being” inside the woman’s body is completely dependent on her, both physically and her mind.

Do what you want with YOUR body. Don’t impose YOUR will on others. That’s anti-American, isn’t it?

What you do with YOUR body stops at going after another human being's DNA at whatever stage it is in. Roe v. Wade made an egregious mistake, and as a consequence, this nation has killed as many human beings as Mao did hiding behind the flak of WWII to get rid of Chinese sects he personally hated for not believing he was a living diety. Here, women are being spoon-fed shit that they are the diety of the child. That is a bald faced lie and it is far from the truth as murder being the answer to minor disagreements among men.

We need to reconsider Roe v. Wade. God demands it of us. If we do not, he will send great enemies against us who will prevail to kill twice as many of us as Roe v. Wade did. You do not want to see that side of the Almighty, but you will if you do not stop the madness of killing other people just because they can't form a fist and knock your vicious teeth out.

No human being has the right to take control of another’s body or force a person to host it unwillingly.

If you needed a kidney transplant to save your life, can you force your parent to donate a kidney to save your life?

 

[denmark]

The Declaration states, “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”
A life is created at conception.

“all Men are created equal” ...
What about Women? Apparently, they were not, in the eyes of your country’s founders. Women could not vote until the 20th century, and are still being controlled by the 80% of US Congress members who are Men. Shame.

A Women’s body (including everything in it) is HER domain, and only SHE decides.
A person is created at birth.

Look, Noah Webster, trying to base your point on a modernized and functionally-illiterate understanding of the English language is not going to take you very far, and basing it on "This is SCIENCE, because it's how it appears to me!" won't take you anywhere at all.

First, "men" in archaic parlance often translated into "humans" or "people", as it did in that phrase. That hyper-sensitive, panty-chapped neo-savages like you have decided to make a big fucking hairy deal out of singling out sexes means exactly fuck and all to words written a long time ago.

Second, a fetus is not part of a woman's body. Ever. And there is nothing about birth which magically creates a person out of something else. I've given birth to three children myself, and been present at the births of many others. I promise you that, no matter what your Mommy told you, there were no fairy godmothers, magic wands, or sparkling puffs of glitter present.

I agree. At birth, there are no sparkling puffs of glitter, either physical or imagined (soul), and the baby’s mind at birth is not conscious of any reality, except for physical discomfort and vocal cries & moro reflex, etc.
Only if necessary, and only the pregnant woman should decide the fate of what’s inside HER body, terminating the fetus is not as big a deal for YOU, or it should not be (in case your emotions are uncontrollable).

 

[beautress]

Coyote: "No human being has the right to take control of another’s body or force a person to host it unwillingly."

So a human being mother does not have the right to take control of her unborn baby's body in order to kill it, which it is unwilling to give up as shown by videos showing how violently the unborn human being moves in order to excape the certain extinction by the abortionist's killing equipment. Thank you for making my case.

 

[denmark]

We are Waaay ahead of Muslim countries with regard to women-even that she witch Omar.

Who?
Yeah, we are way ahead NOT!
USA is a sexist country ranked #98 in the world regarding political equality between the sexes.

Facts or link please.

View attachment 269109

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2018.pdf

Did you even read your own linked report, you walking turd?

From your link:

"• All eight geographical regions assessed in the report have achieved at least 60% gender parity, and two have progressed above 70%. Western Europe is, on average, the region with the highest level of gender parity (75.8%). North America (72.5%) is second and Latin America (70.8%) is third. They are followed by Eastern Europe and Central Asia (70.7%), East Asia and the Pacific (68.3%), Sub-Saharan Africa (66.3%), South Asia (65.8%) and the Middle East and North Africa (60.2%). This year the 149 countries covered by the report include five new entrants: Congo, DRC; Iraq, Oman, Sierra Leone and Togo. Sierra Leone is in 114th position while the other new entrants rank lower."

"Political Empowerment is where the gender gap remains the widest: only 23% of the political gap— unchanged since last year—has been closed, and no country has yet fully closed political empowerment gaps. Even the best performer in this subindex, Iceland, still exhibits a gap of 33%, and this gap has widened significantly over the past year. Just six other countries (Nicaragua, Norway, Rwanda, Bangladesh, Finland and Sweden) have closed at least 50% of their gap. On the other end of the spectrum, almost one-quarter of the countries assessed has closed less than 10% of their gender gap, and the four worst-performing countries— Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman and Yemen—have yet to bridge over 97% of their gap."

Since I doubt that you could even find any of those four countries on a map, let me just tell you what they all have in common: they're all overwhelmingly Muslim, dolt.

"The second subindex where the gender gap remains very large is Economic Participation and Opportunity. Globally, just 58% of this gap has been closed, with minimal progress since last year. Nineteen countries— predominantly from the Middle East and North Africa region—have yet to close over 50% of their gap, 94 countries have yet to close 30% gap or more, and just 14 countries are above the 80% milestone. These countries are fairly distributed among five regions: two are from the East Asia and the Pacific (Lao PDR and the Philippines); two are from Eastern Europe (Belarus and Latvia); two are from Latin America and the Caribbean (Barbados and Bahamas); six are from Sub-Saharan Africa (Benin, Botswana, Burundi, Cameroon, Guinea and Namibia); and two are Nordic countries (Sweden and Norway). Lao PDR is the best performer on this subindex, having closed 91% of the gap."

The next time you want to mindlessly throw up a link to something and ASSume it supports you (and pray that no one bothers to fact-check your bullshit claims), don't.

I applaud you for actually reading some of the report, including what suits you.
However, I stand by what I focused on - Political Empowerment.
The sexist USA is ranked #98 in Political Empowerment for women. That’s very disappointing for a country that emphasizes FREEDOM for all.

You need to control your emotions. Calling people names and ASSuming you know them is the height of arrogance, if not also stupidity.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Declaration states, “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”
A life is created at conception.

“all Men are created equal” ...
What about Women? Apparently, they were not, in the eyes of your country’s founders. Women could not vote until the 20th century, and are still being controlled by the 80% of US Congress members who are Men. Shame.

A Women’s body (including everything in it) is HER domain, and only SHE decides.
A person is created at birth.

Look, Noah Webster, trying to base your point on a modernized and functionally-illiterate understanding of the English language is not going to take you very far, and basing it on "This is SCIENCE, because it's how it appears to me!" won't take you anywhere at all.

First, "men" in archaic parlance often translated into "humans" or "people", as it did in that phrase. That hyper-sensitive, panty-chapped neo-savages like you have decided to make a big fucking hairy deal out of singling out sexes means exactly fuck and all to words written a long time ago.

Second, a fetus is not part of a woman's body. Ever. And there is nothing about birth which magically creates a person out of something else. I've given birth to three children myself, and been present at the births of many others. I promise you that, no matter what your Mommy told you, there were no fairy godmothers, magic wands, or sparkling puffs of glitter present.

I agree. At birth, there are no sparkling puffs of glitter, either physical or imagined (soul), and the baby’s mind at birth is not conscious of any reality, except for physical discomfort and vocal cries & moro reflex, etc.
Only if necessary, and only the pregnant woman should decide the fate of what’s inside HER body, terminating the fetus is not as big a deal for YOU, or it should not be (in case your emotions are uncontrollable).

YOU are seriously trying to claim that your outdated, unscientific twaddle is the "rational" position, and mine, with every ounce of modern medicine and biology supporting it, is "emotional"? For someone who alleges that his only concern is "women's rights", you certainly are a condescending little chauvinist drooler when a woman dares to challenge your incoherent mansplaining of what she wants and needs.

I understand. Being a born with a penis is probably the only accomplishment in your sad little excuse for a life, and being confronted with a woman who's ahead of you on both education and, apparently, evolution is very threatening to "men" like you.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Between 0% and 200% of the poverty line have 75% of abortions and approximately 59% of women who have abortion already have children .

Having children drops women out of the employment market and Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act - Wikipedia ensured that having more babies did not include a reward of stipend to promote generational welfare .

The bifurcated minds of the religious riech feign to promote fiscal accountability while deriding to spay , neuter , or otherwise fund birth control for their hue mammon pets , as if lacking any clear foresight for social welfare costs or consequences towards facilitating third world slums .

Apparently , such puritanical ideologues need sufficient numbers of destitute to prop up themselves as the purveyors for pity .

I appreciate you backing up the claim that abortion is to reduce the minority population but the name calling is actually proof you are pretending to make an academic argument.

 

[Third Party]

Who?
Yeah, we are way ahead NOT!
USA is a sexist country ranked #98 in the world regarding political equality between the sexes.

Facts or link please.

View attachment 269109

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2018.pdf

Did you even read your own linked report, you walking turd?

From your link:

"• All eight geographical regions assessed in the report have achieved at least 60% gender parity, and two have progressed above 70%. Western Europe is, on average, the region with the highest level of gender parity (75.8%). North America (72.5%) is second and Latin America (70.8%) is third. They are followed by Eastern Europe and Central Asia (70.7%), East Asia and the Pacific (68.3%), Sub-Saharan Africa (66.3%), South Asia (65.8%) and the Middle East and North Africa (60.2%). This year the 149 countries covered by the report include five new entrants: Congo, DRC; Iraq, Oman, Sierra Leone and Togo. Sierra Leone is in 114th position while the other new entrants rank lower."

"Political Empowerment is where the gender gap remains the widest: only 23% of the political gap— unchanged since last year—has been closed, and no country has yet fully closed political empowerment gaps. Even the best performer in this subindex, Iceland, still exhibits a gap of 33%, and this gap has widened significantly over the past year. Just six other countries (Nicaragua, Norway, Rwanda, Bangladesh, Finland and Sweden) have closed at least 50% of their gap. On the other end of the spectrum, almost one-quarter of the countries assessed has closed less than 10% of their gender gap, and the four worst-performing countries— Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman and Yemen—have yet to bridge over 97% of their gap."

Since I doubt that you could even find any of those four countries on a map, let me just tell you what they all have in common: they're all overwhelmingly Muslim, dolt.

"The second subindex where the gender gap remains very large is Economic Participation and Opportunity. Globally, just 58% of this gap has been closed, with minimal progress since last year. Nineteen countries— predominantly from the Middle East and North Africa region—have yet to close over 50% of their gap, 94 countries have yet to close 30% gap or more, and just 14 countries are above the 80% milestone. These countries are fairly distributed among five regions: two are from the East Asia and the Pacific (Lao PDR and the Philippines); two are from Eastern Europe (Belarus and Latvia); two are from Latin America and the Caribbean (Barbados and Bahamas); six are from Sub-Saharan Africa (Benin, Botswana, Burundi, Cameroon, Guinea and Namibia); and two are Nordic countries (Sweden and Norway). Lao PDR is the best performer on this subindex, having closed 91% of the gap."

The next time you want to mindlessly throw up a link to something and ASSume it supports you (and pray that no one bothers to fact-check your bullshit claims), don't.

I applaud you for actually reading some of the report, including what suits you.
However, I stand by what I focused on - Political Empowerment.
The sexist USA is ranked #98 in Political Empowerment for women. That’s very disappointing for a country that emphasizes FREEDOM for all.

You need to control your emotions. Calling people names and ASSuming you know them is the height of arrogance, if not also stupidity.

Your view-most don't agree.