MLB reinstates Pete Rose and others, paving way for Hall of Fame consideration

[apolitical]

It's funny how people say Rose was not a great player. He scored over 2k runs. Less than ten MLB players have done that. That's an automatic for the Hall of Fame in my book. Ranks right up there with these automatic votes:

500+ home runs -- automatic hall of famer
300+ pitching wins -- automatic hall of famer
3k+ hits -- automatic hall of famer

 

[apolitical]

And to set the record straight on Joe Jackson and the White Sox. It is quite apparent to me that those players took money from organized crime to throw the series. It took only a couple of games before they realized that they were being screwed, and then had a change of heart. They started playing to win, but it was too late by that time.

 

[apolitical]

you need people like rose to get on base for the rbi guys.....what is SA?.......

I'm guessing the OP means slugging percentage. He also had an odd abbreviation called OBA. I'm not familiar with that--even in these new retarded stats.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The only reason they are letting Pete back in is so that MLB can cash in on it.

In Cincinnati, they had a Pete Rose day to celebrate him getting back in, and it may be the last time the hapless Cincy organization sells out a game because of it. And yes, the lost to the White Sox despite it. LOL.

If I were the family of Pete Rose, I would tell the Hall of Fame, thanks but no thanks, and refuse the offer to let him back in.


Here is the bottom line, 99.9999% of players in the Hall of Fame the average American does not know and could care less about. However, they all know who Pete is and what he has done in baseball and in his life, and there is nothing MLB can do about it.

If you ask me, MLB needs Pete more than he needs them, especially since they waited till he was dead to let him back in.

Pete was the best ambassador for the game of baseball, bar none, but he is now dead, and MLB will soon be as well as Americans are turning away from it in droves thanks to endless baseball strikes as well as big market teams now taking over baseball as the small market teams essentially becoming farm systems for them.

And no matter how good the big money teams like the Dodgers and Mets get that dominate the game, there will never be another Pete Rose.

he already served his lifetime ban....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm guessing the OP means slugging percentage. He also had an odd abbreviation called OBA. I'm not familiar with that--even in these new retarded stats.

yea i hear ya...he also had SA i asked him what it was he didnt answer....i wonder if the guy knows about the game?....

 

[rightwinger]

If I were the family of Pete Rose, I would tell the Hall of Fame, thanks but no thanks, and refuse the offer to let him back in.

I agree

MLB hung Pete out to dry for 40 years while embracing gambling themselves

There is nothing Pete wanted more than HOF. To wait till he dies is just cruel.

The family should tell he HOF to stick it
A HOF without its best players

 

[Votto]

And to set the record straight on Joe Jackson and the White Sox. It is quite apparent to me that those players took money from organized crime to throw the series. It took only a couple of games before they realized that they were being screwed, and then had a change of heart. They started playing to win, but it was too late by that time.

Yet MLB pretends that intentionally throwing games is equivalent to betting to win games by comparing Pete to the Black Sox?

Really?

Pete would die before throwing a game he was playing.

 

[Votto]

It's funny how people say Rose was not a great player. He scored over 2k runs. Less than ten MLB players have done that. That's an automatic for the Hall of Fame in my book. Ranks right up there with these automatic votes:

500+ home runs -- automatic hall of famer
300+ pitching wins -- automatic hall of famer
3k+ hits -- automatic hall of famer

Saying Pete Rose was not a great player is like saying Joe Biden was mentally competent after watching the Presidential debate with Trump.

There is no reasoning with such people as it is self-evident enough to ignore them completely till the end of time.

To even suggest that Pete should be reinstated to consider him is laughable. Why do we need an oligarchy of puritanical bureaucratic fools tell us whether the all-time hit leader in baseball should be allowed into the Hall of Fame or not?

Idiots.

 

[leftwinger]

Yet MLB pretends that intentionally throwing games is equivalent to betting to win games by comparing Pete to the Black Sox?

Really?

Pete would die before throwing a game he was playing.

He wasn’t playing in the accused timeframe, he was manager. There is risk to be tied in to illegal gambling. Nowdays they have legal sites for participating states. Much cleaner. You deposit before you can bet.

That’s another big issue on the Otahni saga. Sports betting was not legal in CA (maybe you could find shady overseas site?). Yet the Otahnis household had a current $4million in losses due when he was caught up in it (noted). That seems like serious money to any secret street bookie?

 

[leftwinger]

I heard some “expert” on Sirius MLB channel saying they could not let Rose “back in” because he wouldnt agree to stop betting on Baseball. They said he was still doing it and had been denying it? Would not come clean? I don’t know? They offered no real proof of anything other than talk. I only listened to some of it.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

hey dumbass not everyone hits HR'S...one of the best hitters of the modern era Tony Gwynn was a singles hitter....Rod Carew singles hitter....Ted Williams believed that hitting for a high batting average, including singles, was a crucial aspect of being a good hitter......While he also valued power, Williams recognized the importance of consistently getting on base and hitting for average. .....

And gwynn was a good hitter but no more than that, BA almost as good as ted but tony averaged 9 HR and 52 walks per 162 games. Those are lousy numbers. Like ichiro, gwynn was a great singles hitter.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Pete was the best ambassador for the game of baseball, bar none, but he is now dead, and MLB will soon be as well as Americans are turning away from it in droves thanks to endless baseball strikes as well as big market teams now taking over baseball as the small market teams essentially becoming farm systems for them.

BB is dying because it is so boring to watch. MLB should bring back the dead ball. Back in 1910 BB was a very exciting fast-paced game. Games averaged an hour 50 minutes back then.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Funny fact, Ty Cobb was banned for jumping a fence to almost beat to death a man in a wheelchair who insulted him and charged with attempted murder. And guess what, the players on his team banded with Ty Cobb and said that MLB needs to reinstate Ty or they would all ban together and quite, so MLB let him back in so that they would not lose revenue from the team.

Punching out fans was very common back then. Even the bambino did it.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Another thing. Rose should have never sucked up to the MLB the way he did. He knew he was great. Rose should have told the MLB to stick it up their ass.

Amen to that. Pete Rose did not need the hall of fame to sell his autograph like most ball players do. I don't know why he cared about getting into the hall.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

I'm guessing the OP means slugging percentage. He also had an odd abbreviation called OBA. I'm not familiar with that--even in these new retarded stats.

SA is slugging average and OBA is on base average. Everybody knows that.

 

[martybegan]

Seems fair enough.

Your ban dies with you. I'm good with that.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And gwynn was a good hitter but no more than that, BA almost as good as ted but tony averaged 9 HR and 52 walks per 162 games. Those are lousy numbers. Like ichiro, gwynn was a great singles hitter.

i wish i was able to have those lousy numbers....

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Saying Pete Rose was not a great player is like saying Joe Biden was mentally competent after watching the Presidential debate with Trump.

Pete was not a GREAT player. You can't equate him to willie or the hammer or the babe or the clipper or A-rod. Pete was a singles hitter and an ok fielder. Without the betting scandal, he would have made the hall but if you think he's one of the top 20 players of all time, you don't know baseball. Maybe number 85, which is still pretty good.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Pete was not a GREAT player. You can't equate him to willie or the hammer or the babe or the clipper or A-rod. Pete was a singles hitter and an ok fielder. Without the betting scandal, he would have made the hall but if you think he's one of the top 20 players of all time, you don't know baseball. Maybe number 85, which is still pretty good.

i dont think you know much about baseball either...

 

[apolitical]

SA is slugging average and OBA is on base average. Everybody knows that.

Slugging is SLG. And it's on base percentage, not on base average. Abbreviation is OBP.