MLB reinstates Pete Rose and others, paving way for Hall of Fame consideration

[rightwinger]

Pete was a jerk
No question about it.

He paid a heavy price for his gambling activities.

But Baseball is being hypocritical in its outrage over gambling. In the last ten years they have embraced sports betting and make big money off of it.

Pete belongs in the Hall

 

[rightwinger]

What is the Hall of Fame?
It is supposed to honor the best players to ever play the game.

I have been watching baseball for over 60 years.
Five of the best players I ever saw are not included in the HOF

Rose, Bonds, Clemens, ARod, McGuire

What does that say about the HOF?

 

[leftwinger]

What is the Hall of Fame?
It is supposed to honor the best players to ever play the game.

I have been watching baseball for over 60 years.
Five of the best players I ever saw are not included in the HOF

Rose, Bonds, Clemens, ARod, McGuire

What does that say about the HOF?

That MLB does not allow gambling (written rule, posted in every clubhouse). Is that gambling on baseball only? Is NFL exempt from MLB & vice versa? Hey rickey, put down $1K on BOS for me tonight to cover the line.

And the Sportswriters don’t appprove of some Juicers. Alchoholic sportswriters vote the HOF after all. Those hunting a free buffet table. It aint rocket science.

 

[leftwinger]

Off topic: Sirius sports my favorite show (mad dog himself) a caller calls in spouting LW lies about the Qutar plane saga. He talks for 30 sec the Mad Dog says we are not going to get into that here.

Uh Mad dog, you just did. You allowed 1 side BS to be broadcast. You cut off cursing….no one hears it. Why does LW hogwash go thru?

Recently it seems Sirius has some Deep State fancy boys embedded. Who pays them? USAID? Sickening, knowing the audience may be impressionable youth also,

 

[rightwinger]

That MLB does not allow gambling (written rule, posted in every clubhouse). Is that gambling on baseball only? Is NFL exempt from MLB & vice versa? Hey rickey, put down $1K on BOS for me tonight to cover the line.

And the Sportswriters don’t appprove of some Juicers. Alchoholic sportswriters vote the HOF after all. Those hunting a free buffet table. It aint rocket science.

MLB has fully endorsed gambling
while they punished Rose for 40 years

They looked the other way wit Ohtani

 

[StatesRightsForever]

big pap smear?....use real names....and the dh is great for players like micky mantle who had bad knees and couldnt run after fly balls anymore.....

Mick was never a DH. Anyway - if a player can't run he should retire.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

you need people like rose to get on base for the rbi guys.....what is SA?.......

HAHAHA. So you think singles are as valuable as HRs.??

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Five of the best players I ever saw are not included in the HOF

Rose, Bonds, Clemens, ARod, McGuire

Bonds, clemens, and arod yes. They were so good and would have made the hall even without juicing. McGwire probably not. Rose bet on baseball hundreds of times.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

MLB has fully endorsed gambling
while they punished Rose for 40 years

They looked the other way wit Ohtani

Yup - shohei got special treatment because he's non-white.

 

[Fang]

They banned Pete Rose from the baseball HOF for gambling? What if they banned musicians from the Rock&Roll HOF for drug use? It would be one big empty hall.

Not even remotely the same thing.

 

[JWBooth]

Yup - shohei got special treatment because he's non-white.

Having a handy fall guy helped

 

[JWBooth]

 

[rightwinger]

Yup - shohei got special treatment because he's non-white.

The league saw how much revenue Ohtani was generating for the league and looked the other way.

Sure, his interpreter had access to millions of his dollars without Ohtani knowing

 

[rightwinger]

In 1919, the White Sox’s best Pitcher was Eddie Cicotte. He had a $9,000 contract with an $8,000 bonus if he won 30 games.

He won 29 games with three starts left. Owner Charles Comisky had him benched so he wouldn’t have to pay the bonus.

Did the league stand up for the player and make Comisky either play him or pay him?
Of course not, they just laughed and congratulated Comisky.

Why would anyone be surprised when Cicotte took the money to throw the series.

Worst scandal in Baseball history happened under Comisky’s watch…….But Comisky is in the Hall of Fame

 

[Harry Dresden]

Mick was never a DH. Anyway - if a player can't run he should retire.

yea no shit it started after his time....a hell of a lot of people dont agree with you...

 

[Harry Dresden]

HAHAHA. So you think singles are as valuable as HRs.??

hey dumbass not everyone hits HR'S...one of the best hitters of the modern era Tony Gwynn was a singles hitter....Rod Carew singles hitter....Ted Williams believed that hitting for a high batting average, including singles, was a crucial aspect of being a good hitter......While he also valued power, Williams recognized the importance of consistently getting on base and hitting for average. .....

 

[leftwinger]

The league saw how much revenue Ohtani was generating for the league and looked the other way.

Sure, his interpreter had access to millions of his dollars without Ohtani knowing

Hard to belive any bookie would let a “helper” rack up four $4million in losses making $100K in LA.

Both their English went real bad when questioned, like a lanscaper.

 

[Votto]

Pete was a jerk
No question about it.

He paid a heavy price for his gambling activities.

But Baseball is being hypocritical in its outrage over gambling. In the last ten years they have embraced sports betting and make big money off of it.

Pete belongs in the Hall

The only reason they are letting Pete back in is so that MLB can cash in on it.

In Cincinnati, they had a Pete Rose day to celebrate him getting back in, and it may be the last time the hapless Cincy organization sells out a game because of it. And yes, the lost to the White Sox despite it. LOL.

If I were the family of Pete Rose, I would tell the Hall of Fame, thanks but no thanks, and refuse the offer to let him back in.


Here is the bottom line, 99.9999% of players in the Hall of Fame the average American does not know and could care less about. However, they all know who Pete is and what he has done in baseball and in his life, and there is nothing MLB can do about it.

If you ask me, MLB needs Pete more than he needs them, especially since they waited till he was dead to let him back in.

Pete was the best ambassador for the game of baseball, bar none, but he is now dead, and MLB will soon be as well as Americans are turning away from it in droves thanks to endless baseball strikes as well as big market teams now taking over baseball as the small market teams essentially becoming farm systems for them.

And no matter how good the big money teams like the Dodgers and Mets get that dominate the game, there will never be another Pete Rose.

 

[Votto]

Here is a hit piece on Rose

'Dark day for baseball': MLB's shock decision on Pete Rose could open floodgates

Pete Rose had his Hall of Fame chances resurrected by commissioner Rob Manfred.

www.yahoo.com

Apparently it’s OK to gamble on baseball now, even those involving your own team, while making a mockery out of the sport’s most sacred rule.

You want to cheat, lie, go to prison for tax evasion and be accused of statutory rape, hey, all is forgiven.

You learn in journalism school that you can’t libel the dead.

Who knew that once you’re dead, all could be forgiven too?

Pete Rose, who gambled on baseball as manager of the Cincinnati Reds and lied about it for 15 years before dying September 2024 at the age of 83, had his Hall of Fame chances resurrected by commissioner Rob Manfred.

Manfred announced, on the eve of Pete Rose Day in Cincinnati, that he is lifting Rose’s permanent ban from baseball, and for the first time will be eligible to be elected into the Hall of Fame.

Manfred, while ruling that the permanent ineligibility of players ends upon their death, also cleared everyone from the 1919 Black Sox scandal, who deliberately fixed games during the World Series.

“It’s a serious dark day for baseball," Marcus Giamatti, the 63-year-old son of late former commissioner Bart Giamatti, who permanently suspended Rose in 1989, told USA TODAY Sports. “For my dad, it was all about defending the integrity of baseball. Now, without integrity, I believe the game of baseball, as we know it, will cease to exist. How, without integrity, will the fans ever entrust the purity of the game. …

“The basic principle that the game is built on, fair play, and that integrity is going to be compromised. And the fans are losers. I don’t know how a fan could go and watch a game knowing that what they’re seeing may not be real and fair anymore. That’s a really scary thought."

Fair play? How can there be fair play in MLB when the Yankees spend more on their bull pen than most teams spend on their entire team? MLB is basically allowing the big market teams to rig a winning season and likelyhood of winning a World Series by letting them buy their way there, just like paying players to lose as the Black Sox had done, but no once cares because it is good money for MLB and the media to have the larger market teams dominate baseball. Integrity of the game? You mean like the myriads of players who have taken steroids to get into the Hall of Fame?

In fact, Ty Cobb was once banned from baseball as well, Ty being the person to hold the MLB record for hits that Pete Rose broke. Funny fact, Ty Cobb was banned for jumping a fence to almost beat to death a man in a wheelchair who insulted him and charged with attempted murder. And guess what, the players on his team banded with Ty Cobb and said that MLB needs to reinstate Ty or they would all ban together and quite, so MLB let him back in so that they would not lose revenue from the team. What exactly is worse than attempted murder again? Gambling to win, something you were expected to do anyway?



What a bunch of puritanical BS.

Here are the facts.

1. Nothing in life is fair.

2. The only difference between flawed people like Pete Rose and others is that Pete was unable to hide his flaws as where others seem to be able to just fine.

3. Americans are tired of PC BS, especially trying to either whitewash history or flat out ignore it by tearing down statues and such. People need to understand how screwed up the human race really is, and realize that includes everyone, including yourself. You can only do this by being able to tell the story instead of refusing to display it at the Hall of Fame. People desperately need a reality check.

 

[apolitical]

The only reason they are letting Pete back in is so that MLB can cash in on it.

In Cincinnati, they had a Pete Rose day to celebrate him getting back in, and it may be the last time the hapless Cincy organization sells out a game because of it. And yes, the lost to the White Sox despite it. LOL.

If I were the family of Pete Rose, I would tell the Hall of Fame, thanks but no thanks, and refuse the offer to let him back in.

WLW radio in Cincinnati has a long reach, and I listened to that game. It sold out and there were standing fans.

And I agree the MLB is simply cashing in. They purposely waited for Rose to die to spite him and so Rose could not cash in.

Another thing. Rose should have never sucked up to the MLB the way he did. He knew he was great. Rose should have told the MLB to stick it up their ass.