Mankeeping

[Correll]

I don't think it's political. It's far too widespread for this to be just one party. Overprotective parenting and overuse of technology crosses party lines.

Yes and no. Some elements like social media, yes, crosses party lines. Other issues, like seeing wages rise, is a political issue.

This is just more scapegoating.

No, what I did was not scapegoating, it was addressing the possiblity that a group could be having a negative effect on the problem.

What YOU are doing, is trying to make even discussing some groups, OFF THE TABLE.

That is wrong. And it is extra shitty that you spun it as though your bad behavior was MY bad behavior. You are trying to shut down discussion of an issue by being insulting.

More scapegoating. There's nothing inherently wrong with feminism and was badly needed.

Feminism is deeply fucked up today. It teaches a false and anti-male narrative that is deeply harmful to men AND women. It also lies to women about what they SHOULD want.

You probably have a point about neglect for boys. The attention given to boys pushes an idealization of masculinity that is equally problematic. They push men into ideals that they have to be the provider and protector in a society that doesn't favor male labor and doesn't need protectors. Masculinity is idealized as an rugged independence that doesn't need anyone. Doesn't have faults. Doesn't have emotions.

It's impossible for them to live up to.

Um, yeah, this isn't the 1950s. That is not what we are telling boys today.

 

[Correll]

All part of the same problem. It's not all feminists, it's the ones that have gone beyond "women should have the same opportunities men have" and went on to "all women should want to live like men live"

Any lefty that describes themselves as a feminist at this point in time, is of the latter.

 

[braalian]

Have you been to a mall lately? They're ghost towns.

Ok fine but there’s plenty of places kids could go. Saying adults have “chased them out” is ridiculous.

The kids are just so focused on their screens, they don’t leave the house as much. There’s still places to go

 

[martybegan]

Any lefty that describes themselves as a feminist at this point in time, is of the latter.

It's all about the stage the persons stopped at. First it was we should have the same rights as men, then it was we should have the same opportunities as men, then it went into screwy divergences of we don't need men, we should act like men, all women should act like men, and ending with all gender is a construct.

 

[Meathead]

I have never had a problem finding a girlfriend in all my 64 years.

Small wonder since she's in the box under your bed. All you have to do is take her out and inflate her.

 

[braalian]

It's all about the stage the persons stopped at. First it was we should have the same rights as men, then it was we should have the same opportunities as men, then it went into screwy divergences of we don't need men, we should act like men, all women should act like men, and ending with all gender is a construct.

Don’t forget “I should get all the rights/opportunities as men while simultaneously maintaining all the social privileges associated with being a woman”

 

[Natural Citizen]

That was actually pretty accurate piece. If you're lucky, they'll tell you that outright. If you're smart, you'll be paying attention when they do.

Those are the rare diamonds.

Unfortunately, most will do precisely what the author of the piece claims that they don't want to do. Pass on those. Or just say fuckit and live your life single and not deal with the Mickey Mousery.

So I guess it works both ways, really.

 

[Marener]

Ok fine but there’s plenty of places kids could go. Saying adults have “chased them out” is ridiculous.

The kids are just so focused on their screens, they don’t lève the house as much. There’s still places to go

I don't know man. Suburbia is pretty much a hellscape of privatized spaces that are quite unwelcome to teenagers who just want to hang out and not spend any money.

But more to the point that what spaces are available don't compete with their devices.

 

[braalian]

But more to the point that what spaces are available don't compete with their devices.

Yes this is the real problem that explains why they’re “late bloomers” in so many things, including sex.

The posters blaming gay people for people overall having less sex is just bizarre. If there’s anyone out there having a ton of casual sex, it’s the gays

 

[Marener]

Yes and no. Some elements like social media, yes, crosses party lines. Other issues, like seeing wages rise, is a political issue.

Not sure which political party is opposed to wages rising.

No, what I did was not scapegoating, it was addressing the possiblity that a group could be having a negative effect on the problem.

What YOU are doing, is trying to make even discussing some groups, OFF THE TABLE.

That is wrong. And it is extra shitty that you spun it as though your bad behavior was MY bad behavior. You are trying to shut down discussion of an issue by being insulting.

Feels like scapegoating to me, seeing as how you're trying to shoehorn them into the conversation.

Feminism is deeply fucked up today. It teaches a false and anti-male narrative that is deeply harmful to men AND women. It also lies to women about what they SHOULD want.

I would love for you to explain more about what women SHOULD want.

Um, yeah, this isn't the 1950s. That is not what we are telling boys today.

Maybe you haven't noticed the tradwife movement? This is it's counterpart. Conservatism definitely has been telling boys this and they're absolutely moving towards this.

 

[Correll]

It's all about the stage the persons stopped at. First it was we should have the same rights as men, then it was we should have the same opportunities as men, then it went into screwy divergences of we don't need men, we should act like men, all women should act like men, and ending with all gender is a construct.

Generally speaking, our laws and policies have been defined by the... crazy ones.


IMO, one of the primary issues with modern culture is that woman have demanded economic equality, and yet the majority of women want to marry a man that makes more money then them.


This sets up the average woman (and man) for failure. Not to mention society as a whole.

 

[Correll]

Not sure which political party is opposed to wages rising.

I am constantly getting pushback on raising wages from dems.

Feels like scapegoating to me, seeing as how you're trying to shoehorn them into the conversation.

Why would they NOT be part of the conversation? Your action here is not to explain why they CAN'T be part of the problem, but to attack teh very idea of discussing then at all. You want to give them a pass before the issue is even looked at.

I would love for you to explain more about what women SHOULD want.

Interesting. I complain that feminism is telling women what they SHOULD want, and your response it so try to get me to tell women what they SHOULD want.

I have no desire to tell women what they SHOULD want. I would be happy to discuss what I have seen that makes women HAPPY, in my personal observations or from studies I have seen.

Maybe you haven't noticed the tradwife movement? This is it's counterpart. Conservatism definitely has been telling boys this and they're absolutely moving towards this.

My understanding it is a pretty small movement AND I do not know that they are doing what you claim.

 

[Hafar1014]

The Left is loving this, and probably intentionally promoted through various techniques to try and quell the population numbers. Then they just blame their political rivals for it all after they have held power for generations.

It is why they also champion gender change, abortion, euthanasia, and the LGTB crowd, just anything to reduce population numbers

It is a kinder, gentler, genocide.

Its not population control thats the goal its an attack on American traditional culture by destroying the two parent family and replacing it with the government and the public schools. The two parent family is the foundation of astable society. Look what a 73% single mother rate has done to the black community. High crime addiction poor academics poverty 53% of all murder

 

[Votto]

Its not population control thats the goal its an attack on American traditional culture by destroying the two parent family and replacing it with the government and the public schools. The two parent family is the foundation of astable society. Look what a 73% single mother rate has done to the black community. High crime addiction poor academics poverty 53% of all murder

I disagree. It is indirect population control

As you point out, traditional marriage is hated by the Left as I'm sure you have heard them rail against the "Patriarchal family".

In fact, BLM used to have on their web site a whole section devoted to the destruction of the Patriarchal family.

Why?

It is because without the father in the house, there is very little chance that the mother will be able to rise above the poverty line, especially since most of them seem to be uneducated. And with the father not in the house, the child, especially males, will find their father figure in the streets, thus leading to a life of crime as BLM continues to blame their political opponents for systemic racism as being the cause of continued poverty within the black community and higher rates of incarceration than other races within society.

These families will all live shorter lives as a result, and have fewer children, especially in light of the fact that in New York City alone there have been more black abortions than births because the black community just can't escape poverty in large part.

BLM has long since taken that down, BTW as it is far too truthful than they wanted to be.

People may begin to connect the dots like I have I reckon.

 

[braalian]

Its not population control thats the goal its an attack on American traditional culture by destroying the two parent family and replacing it with the government and the public schools. The two parent family is the foundation of astable society. Look what a 73% single mother rate has done to the black community. High crime addiction poor academics poverty 53% of all murder

So stop getting divorced so much.

No one’s forcing people to get divorced.

 

[Hafar1014]

So stop getting divorced so much.

No one’s forcing people to get divorced.

They never marry in the first place, get it, see the difference

Single-Parent Families Cause Juvenile Crime (From Juvenile Crime: Opposing Viewpoints, P 62-66, 1997, A E Sadler, ed. -- See NCJ-167319) | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

Overall, black Americans are arrested at 2.6 times the per-capita rate of all other Americans, and this ratio is even higher for murder (6.3 times) and robbery (8.1 times). Google

 

[Marener]

I am constantly getting pushback on raising wages from dems.

You are? Last I checked it's Republicans that oppose raising minimum wage and attacking those greedy unions for increasing the wages of their members too much.

Why would they NOT be part of the conversation? Your action here is not to explain why they CAN'T be part of the problem, but to attack teh very idea of discussing then at all. You want to give them a pass before the issue is even looked at.

If you have something rational to bring up, then by all means. But that hasn't happened yet.

Interesting. I complain that feminism is telling women what they SHOULD want, and your response it so try to get me to tell women what they SHOULD want.

I have no desire to tell women what they SHOULD want. I would be happy to discuss what I have seen that makes women HAPPY, in my personal observations or from studies I have seen.

My experience with feminism is that they don't tell women what they SHOULD want. It does tell them that society shouldn't limit them based on gender. You know who tells women what they SHOULD want? Conservatism.

My understanding it is a pretty small movement AND I do not know that they are doing what you claim.

Not really. We saw a dramatic shift in voting patterns of young men towards Trump and this appeal is based on a traditional view of masculinity.

Young men swung to the right for Trump after a campaign dominated by masculine appeals

Young men shifted toward Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election in a change from recent years, when most young male voters backed the Democratic candidate.

apnews.com

 

[braalian]

They never marry in the first place, get it, see the difference

Single-Parent Families Cause Juvenile Crime (From Juvenile Crime: Opposing Viewpoints, P 62-66, 1997, A E Sadler, ed. -- See NCJ-167319) | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

Overall, black Americans are arrested at 2.6 times the per-capita rate of all other Americans, and this ratio is even higher for murder (6.3 times) and robbery (8.1 times). Google

Are you just throwing in black crime statistics for the hell of it, or what?

 

[braalian]

I am constantly getting pushback on raising wages from dems.

Where? When? In what form?

 

[80zephyr]

You all realize that there are jobs that require 24/7 coverage, right?

We’re not all office drones

Does it require you to be 24/7?