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What the family can do is help her recognize the traits of a man who might walk away. It’s not a perfect solution but it helps.

As a married man, I would never have even considered seriously dating a woman with career aspirations or goals and a college degree. With that background she can’t have both feet in the marriage… one foot is already out the door.


A degree is a safety net against the growing number of men who walk away from marriages. It prevents a person from having to work for a slap in the facecwage of 20 dollars per hour(an awful way to exist) because they were unwise and got married too young.
 
A degree is a safety net against the growing number of men who walk away from marriages. It prevents a person from having to work for a slap in the facecwage of 20 dollars per hour(an awful way to exist) because they were unwise and got married too young.
A degree/career is a suggestion that you don’t believe the marriage is going to work so you need that safety net “just in case”. In my mind thst means you’ve already got one foot out the door, ready to bail the first time things get tough.

My wife and I make things work because we both know that we’ve got nowhere to go if we don’t make it work. She would literally be on the street and I would literally lose my mind.
 
A degree/career is a suggestion that you don’t believe the marriage is going to work so you need that safety net “just in case”. In my mind thst means you’ve already got one foot out the door, ready to bail the first time things get tough.

My wife and I make things work because we both know that we’ve got nowhere to go if we don’t make it work. She would literally be on the street and I would literally lose my mind.
Then it didn't work. You're just together because of financial convenience, not because you have options.

No one cares about the "longevity" of the relationship. If it's easier just to remain together than it is to leave, that's not saying much.
 
Fathom it, because there are folks like me who absolutely do believe that. That situation is what families… parents, grandparents, siblings, etc… are for; to take care of those family members who are in hard times until they are able to get back on their feet.
No, that's what the state is for.

Thst family is also there to hopefully make sure the guy she married at 22 isn’t leaving her at 29.
If you need family to do that, then that isn't saying a whole lot. He'd probably be better off leaving, since he obviously isn't staying there out of his own convictions. The family should have as little say in the matter as possible, if any at all.
 
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They worked for most of the western world for thousands of years, still have to respectfully disagree.
They didn't "work out". Many of those marriages, and the children who were unfortunate enough to be born to them, were worthless and would have been better off never having been. The wealthy and educated never had to do that, no matter how far back in the past you go. It was only the poor and uneducated who had to reduce themselves to such a pitiable level.

And for thousands of years, the average person couldn't read or write. You don't sound like a member of the literati, so that would include you.

It’s not that I’m a substitute for those programs… my family just doesn’t take Government money. Especially not from programs we believe to be immoral and unconstitutional.
If you're dumb enough to believe that, then I feel bad for you.

Nothing could be more immoral than not supporting programs which aid the needy.

What’s stopping her from kicking me to the curb is that she has no capability to support herself and her family without me.
So in other words, she doesn't love you. You're just a replacement for Medicaid. And you know that if you dated a woman with her own income, she'd end up leaving you because you have nothing of value to offer. You have to settle for what you can get, I guess.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
 
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Marener, you are pretending that feminism is NOT the lefty, hate filled movement that I have described it as.


Yet you continue to ignore Midnight FM who is in the same thread, and completely on your side.


He is gloating about the idea of CULLING America of "nazis" and thus having populations he doesn't like, die out and be replaced with nonwhite immigrants from third world nations.


And to that end he is parroting your arguments about NOT having children.


For you to try to present as reasonable, while allowing your political allies to spread genocidal hatred, in the same thread,

is you being a complete farce.
The white race are invaders and should be deported back to Europe where they came from, if anything.

America belongs to Americans.

iu
 
No, that's what the state is for
Not in the least. I want the State involved in as little of my day-to-day life as humanly possible.
And for thousands of years, the average person couldn't read or write. You don't sound like a member of the literati, so that would include you
Maybe it would be better if it were still that way. Then again with my birth defect I wouldn’t have lived past age 5, if I’d been allowed to survive the birth during most of that time in most cultures. I’m just an average person and I’m fine with that.
If you're dumb enough to believe that, then I feel bad for you.

Nothing could be more immoral than not supporting programs which aid the needy
PRIVATE support to assist the needy who are WORTHY of that assistance. Nothing more. The forced charity of government taxation is as immoral as it gets.
Then it didn't work. You're just together because of financial convenience, not because you have options
We are together, as I said earlier, for general convenience, not just financial convenience.
So in other words, she doesn't love you. You're just a replacement for Medicaid. And you know that if you dated a woman with her own income, she'd end up leaving you because you have nothing of value to offer. You have to settle for what you can get, I guess.
Neither of us believe in romantic love. Thst concept only came to prominence in the latter half of the 19th century and is almost unheard of prior to the 13th century.

This is Whst I was looking for from the time I was a teenager. Her as well. I dated numerous modern women… for one or two dates and for the most part I ended things, not them.
 
The white race are invaders and should be deported back to Europe where they came from, if anything.

America belongs to Americans.

iu


So, you admit that your advice to young white women to have careers instead of kids is based on your hate of whites adn your desire to see them die out?
 
The rights were instituted by laws by the framers. It doesn't matter what the "source" of the rights is.
With a few exceptions which only exist because the government exists, our government does not grant rights.
The right to free speech, religion, assembly, to bear arms, to be secure in your papers and possessions were not granted to you.
Rights require government in order to be enforcement.
This is false.
Ultimately, rights are enforced by those who hold them; to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men.
America is a nation of immigrants. Opposing immigration is anti-American.
Few people oppose immigration.
Everyone should oppose immigrating here in violation of our laws.
 
PRIVATE support to assist the needy who are WORTHY of that assistance. Nothing more. The forced charity of government taxation is as immoral as it gets.
You're delusional. You should take what you can get.

Nothing could be more immoral than the needy not being aided, whether publicly or privately.

Neither of us believe in romantic love. Thst concept only came to prominence in the latter half of the 19th century and is almost unheard of prior to the 13th century.
Wrong. It's a concept as old as humanity. You can find it as far back as Plato or Song of Solomon in the Bible.

Again, in ancient history, it may have been harder for the slave class to devote themselves to such a thing, since threats to their survival were constant, and marriage was often co-opted to serve political and financial purposes, but the concept itself is timeless.

Without that, there's no reason to bother with marriage at all, and such a marriage would be better off never having been to begin with. So why you waste your time on such a futile thing, I'm honestly not sure.
 
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Feminism has created a generation of emotionally disturbed women with high rates of anti anxiety and depression medications
Don't be so modest, I'm sure you've played your part.
 
Birth rates are very low in the west. If that trend doesn’t get reversed, the country is going to have healthcare problems, problems paying Social Security to older people.
 
Not in the least. I want the State involved in as little of my day-to-day life as humanly possible.

Maybe it would be better if it were still that way. Then again with my birth defect I wouldn’t have lived past age 5, if I’d been allowed to survive the birth during most of that time in most cultures. I’m just an average person and I’m fine with that.

PRIVATE support to assist the needy who are WORTHY of that assistance. Nothing more. The forced charity of government taxation is as immoral as it gets.

We are together, as I said earlier, for general convenience, not just financial convenience.

Neither of us believe in romantic love. Thst concept only came to prominence in the latter half of the 19th century and is almost unheard of prior to the 13th century.

This is Whst I was looking for from the time I was a teenager. Her as well. I dated numerous modern women… for one or two dates and for the most part I ended things, not them.

So, you admit that your advice to young white women to have careers instead of kids is based on your hate of whites adn your desire to see them die out?

With a few exceptions which only exist because the government exists, our government does not grant rights.
The right to free speech, religion, assembly, to bear arms, to be secure in your papers and possessions were not granted to you.

This is false.
Ultimately, rights are enforced by those who hold them; to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men.

Few people oppose immigration.
Everyone should oppose immigrating here in violation of our laws.
Guys, stop wasting your time arguing with an under-cover FBI agent. He's not here to debate, he's here to stir up trouble and waste normal people's time.
 
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You're delusional. You should take what you can get.
Not when it comes from an illegal or immoral source and the government is both of those.
Nothing could be more immoral than the needy not being aided, whether publicly or privately.
Most are where they are by their own fault. If you want to support their bad choices privately, so be it; but don’t use the government to force me to support them.
Without that, there's no reason to bother with marriage at all, and such a marriage would be better off never having been to begin with. So why you waste your time on such a futile thing, I'm honestly not sure.
Actually, for us at least, it’s been a very useful tool over the last 11+ years. Sgechas takebts I don’t and I have ones she doesn’t. We fill in the gaps in each others needs.
 
Not when it comes from an illegal or immoral source and the government is both of those.
It's perfectly legal, and there's nothing immoral about it whatsoever. The absence of such things, on the other hand, would certainly be immoral.

Most are where they are by their own fault. If you want to support their bad choices privately, so be it; but don’t use the government to force me to support them.
No, I'll force you to support whoever I want to, regardless of whose "fault" you imagine it to be. It doesn't matter, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Actually, for us at least, it’s been a very useful tool over the last 11+ years. Sgechas takebts I don’t and I have ones she doesn’t. We fill in the gaps in each others needs.
Based on what you say, there's no reason to bother getting married or having children at all. You'd be better off just being alone than wasting your time on such a thing, rather than on something meaningful, like love.
 
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