Looks like Biden will abandon Americans in the Ukraine, just like he did in Afghanistan.

The US government has no jurisdiction over Americans in foreign countries. Can't force them to leave. If you have ever been an expat, you probably know you have to take care of yourself.
So many Americans think the US government will rescue them if they get into difficulty in a foreign country. We have a real problem with ignorance.

No other President in history looked so weak to an enemy that he couldn't guarantee American's could get out of a danger zone, and no other President in history evacuated foreign nationals before American's either...

Biden is the weakest, most ineffectual on the world stage as President Biden is...American's won't forget that at the poles....
 
No other President in history looked so weak to an enemy that he couldn't guarantee American's could get out of a danger zone, and no other President in history evacuated foreign nationals before American's either...

Biden is the weakest, most ineffectual on the world stage as President Biden is...American's won't forget that at the poles....

Again, you read too much into midterms... you made the same mistake in 2010 and 1994..... thinking that winning a few gerrymandered contests meant people really liked you.

Then you got a wakeup call the next general election.

As far as "Americans being left behind"... um, that happens in every war. Reagan left Americans behind in Beruit. Ford left Americans behind in Vietnam. (and not the mythical MIAs).

If you are too stupid or greedy to get out of a war zone, that's kind of on you.
 
Again, you read too much into midterms... you made the same mistake in 2010 and 1994..... thinking that winning a few gerrymandered contests meant people really liked you.

Then you got a wakeup call the next general election.

As far as "Americans being left behind"... um, that happens in every war. Reagan left Americans behind in Beruit. Ford left Americans behind in Vietnam. (and not the mythical MIAs).

If you are too stupid or greedy to get out of a war zone, that's kind of on you.
Links for your claims....
 
No other President in history looked so weak to an enemy that he couldn't guarantee American's could get out of a danger zone, and no other President in history evacuated foreign nationals before American's either...

Biden is the weakest, most ineffectual on the world stage as President Biden is...American's won't forget that at the poles....
You are really ignorant about the US government's power abroad. They have no jurisdiction over US citizens abroad. Can't make them leave, can't keep them from being arrested if they get into trouble. They also don't evacuate you for free. Why do you think the US state department posts travel warnings for countries like Afghanistan and Ukraine. Do you want a nanny state or not?
 
Point was, they were civilians who elected to stay in Lebanon, just like the people who elected to stay in Afghanistan.
They were embassy workers for Christ sake....Your point is that you have no point and are reaching at straws...
 
You are really ignorant about the US government's power abroad. They have no jurisdiction over US citizens abroad. Can't make them leave, can't keep them from being arrested if they get into trouble. They also don't evacuate you for free. Why do you think the US state department posts travel warnings for countries like Afghanistan and Ukraine. Do you want a nanny state or not?

I'd prefer a country that doesn't abandon its citizens to the enemies of America...
 
They were embassy workers for Christ sake....Your point is that you have no point and are reaching at straws...

Actually, most of the people taken as hostages in Lebanon were not embassy workers. They were missionaries, aid workers, UN inspectors, journalists, academics. People who chose to stay in Lebanon AFTER American forces withdrew. .
 
Civilians
Actually, most of the people taken as hostages in Lebanon were not embassy workers. They were missionaries, aid workers, UN inspectors, journalists, academics. People who chose to stay in Lebanon AFTER American forces withdrew. .
Civilians stay behind for a variety of reasons.. some are noble, some are mercenary.
 
Actually, most of the people taken as hostages in Lebanon were not embassy workers. They were missionaries, aid workers, UN inspectors, journalists, academics. People who chose to stay in Lebanon AFTER American forces withdrew. .
Ya know Joe....I read yours and others say similar things...And I am struck by the cowardice in your sentiments...
 
Ya know Joe....I read yours and others say similar things...And I am struck by the cowardice in your sentiments...

Not at all.

When you travel outside the United States, you are no longer subject to United States law. Therefore, YOU'VE assumed the risk of whatever happens to you in that country.

When your government specifically warns you, "This country is no longer safer for Americans", as they did with Lebanon or Afghanistan or now the Ukraine, the SENSIBLE thing to do would be to get the hell out.
 
Not at all.

When you travel outside the United States, you are no longer subject to United States law. Therefore, YOU'VE assumed the risk of whatever happens to you in that country.

When your government specifically warns you, "This country is no longer safer for Americans", as they did with Lebanon or Afghanistan or now the Ukraine, the SENSIBLE thing to do would be to get the hell out.
Biden specifically told those Americans he would not cut and run until he got them out, then he abandoned them behind enemy lines.
 
Not at all.

When you travel outside the United States, you are no longer subject to United States law. Therefore, YOU'VE assumed the risk of whatever happens to you in that country.

When your government specifically warns you, "This country is no longer safer for Americans", as they did with Lebanon or Afghanistan or now the Ukraine, the SENSIBLE thing to do would be to get the hell out.
So, just screw em…amirite? Regardless of if they broke laws or not….
 

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