Liberals turned into the authoritarians they are supposed to hate

[Clementine]

Says the party of the Patriot act and Torture

Not to mention reconstruction, lol

The Obama administration put the Patriot Act on steroids. Same with civil forfeiture laws. Both are out of control and seriously abused now.

Enhanced interrogation is so tame compared to actual torture carried out by radical Muslims. Get a grip.

 

[Juicin]

That's a nice non sequitur

You want to show me where American liberals have tried to criminalise speech?

Shutting it down on campus again is as old as time. And was done by racist and bigoted Christians long before anyone we'd consider a progressive had a voice in America.

We used to have white supremacists debate in the halls of power in this country. Standards change, doesn't mean that these new rules are more or less legitimate than the ones banning racists. But it's intellectually no different without some very subjective views superimposed on them.

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Nowhere in our public education system does anyone have freedom of speech.

While students have had rules to abide by while on campus, the thing that has changed is who is allowed to deliver commencement speeches. Only liberal speakers make it to the podium. John Kerry recently gave a speech where he declared that there are no borders. Funny, because it's only America who doesn't protect it's borders these days.

That's the kind of shit indoctrinated students hear in schools and colleges these days. And if they hear anything different, they run crying to their safe spaces until the authorities clean the chalk off the sidewalk or run the meanie conservatives off campus.

But Liberal by whose standards?

I'm sure racists were pissed off when white nationalists were banned from making commencement speeches.

It's on a first principles basis no difference. It's a status quo position, not regressive

Now American liberals are probably taking it too far. Look at Trump, but that's the point that people in Ivy League schools don't decide this shit society as a whole does.

They only control campuses not Murica

Colleges should be teaching independent thinking since those students are the future and they are the ones who will make changes. Following what is perceived to be the status quo doesn't cut it as an excuse. The country is divided down the middle on political issues, but predominantly liberal colleges refuse to give the other half a voice.

Society is split, so there is no 'society as a whole' rejecting Ben Shapiro in favor of Kerry. There is simply what liberal-run colleges want.

So you're advocating we just get rid of all speech codes on campus?

KKK grand wizard gives teh commencement speech is ok?

That's what you're saying?

Because if you are, you're fucking insane. And if you aren't well then you're for limiting speech on campus just like liberals

 

[Rambunctious]

Today's liberal progressives are Selfish mean dishonest hateful envious jealous devious childish ignorant frightened and not sure what sex they are.....

 

[Juicin]

Says the party of the Patriot act and Torture

Not to mention reconstruction, lol

The Obama administration put the Patriot Act on steroids. Same with civil forfeiture laws. Both are out of control and seriously abused now.

Enhanced interrogation is so tame compared to actual torture carried out by radical Muslims. Get a grip.

That's not how presidential history works

It's not a partisan post

He looked to Bush for whta he could do. Not the democratic platform, don't be a child

Presidents don't look to DNC lawyers or the party platform for their views. They look to past presidents. In this case Bush, no president gives up executive powers. That's not how our system is built. At best he would reserve them and not use them.

Bush took the powers. No president was going to give them up. Again at best not use them

 

[bripat9643]

the hippy girl meme sucks

I know "conservatives" like to pretend that liberals don't support free speech.

But they only try that sort of shit on campuses, where we've ALWAYS drawn arbitrary lines. They're just trying to move the line to a much more authoritarian position. But on a first principles basis it's the same. You can ban the KKK grand wizard from speaking on campus, you can ban just about anyone.

Punish a student over saying one word. You can do it with any word.

That's a long way from criminalizing speech. That's just classic American education policy...

You're forgetting about the investigation by 17 state AGs into global warming "denier" organizations.

Liberal douche bags like you are trying to criminalize any opinion that differs from theirs.

 

[jon_berzerk]

that assuredly has an element of truth to it

 

[Mac1958]

the hippy girl meme sucks

I know "conservatives" like to pretend that liberals don't support free speech.

But they only try that sort of shit on campuses, where we've ALWAYS drawn arbitrary lines. They're just trying to move the line to a much more authoritarian position. But on a first principles basis it's the same. You can ban the KKK grand wizard from speaking on campus, you can ban just about anyone.

Punish a student over saying one word. You can do it with any word.

That's a long way from criminalizing speech. That's just classic American education policy...

You're forgetting about the investigation by 17 state AGs into global warming "denier" organizations.

Liberal douche bags like you are trying to criminalize any opinion that differs from theirs.

For all my maniacal ravings against the PC Police, I'm really not thrilled to say this:

I think you're right about many of them.
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[jon_berzerk]

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Another rightwing nitwit who has it wrong.

Defending the civil rights of Americans from intolerant conservatives is not the be ‘intolerant’; denouncing the bigotry and hate propagated by many on the right is not to be ‘intolerant.’

And again, your concern for racists and bigots is heartwarming.

The PC Police wub me!


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Always amazes me how poorly thought out most conservative talking points are.

You hear a few articulate ones talk about speech on campus, then extrapolate that to blaming highly educated liberals hidden away in offices for changing American preferences on speech beyond recognition.

It's never occurred to you that the change came from outside the campus?

the change came from outside the campus?
indeed

now many of them hide as staff on liberal campuses

 

[paulitician]

There are very few actual 'Liberals' anymore. Most who think of themselves as 'Liberals', are really Communists/Progressives. There is a difference. Communists/Progressives are every bit as Authoritarian as Conservatives/Neocons are. They fully support absolute Government domination of Citizens' lives.

They justify it the same way the Conservatives/Neocons do. It's always 'for your own good.' They know what's best for you, so just shut up and do what they tell you. The closest thing to a real Liberal today, would be a Libertarian. Libertarians truly support Freedom & Liberty and less Government intervention in your life. They're the very few left who still really stand for the Constitution.

 

[Mac1958]

There are very few actual 'Liberals' anymore. Most who think of themselves as 'Liberals', are really Communists/Progressives. There is a difference. Communists/Progressives are every bit as Authoritarian as Conservatives/Neocons are. They fully support absolute Government domination of Citizens' lives.

They justify it the same way the Conservatives/Neocons do. It's always 'for your own good.' They know what's best for you, so just shut up and do what they tell you. The closest thing to a real Liberal today, would be a Libertarian. Libertarians truly support Freedom & Liberty and less Government intervention in your life. They're the very few left who still really stand for the Constitution.

I think it's happening on both ends. Being a "liberal" or a "conservative" is no longer enough in either party.

Zealots have hijacked both parties, and the rest of us are still kind of wondering what the hell happened.
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[paulitician]

There are very few actual 'Liberals' anymore. Most who think of themselves as 'Liberals', are really Communists/Progressives. There is a difference. Communists/Progressives are every bit as Authoritarian as Conservatives/Neocons are. They fully support absolute Government domination of Citizens' lives.

They justify it the same way the Conservatives/Neocons do. It's always 'for your own good.' They know what's best for you, so just shut up and do what they tell you. The closest thing to a real Liberal today, would be a Libertarian. Libertarians truly support Freedom & Liberty and less Government intervention in your life. They're the very few left who still really stand for the Constitution.

I think it's happening on both ends. Being a "liberal" or a "conservative" is no longer enough in either party.

Zealots have hijacked both parties, and the rest of us are still kind of wondering what the hell happened.
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It's finally come full circle. The Communists/Progressives and Conservatives/Neocons have formed a bit of an alliance. They see eye to eye on key issues like Government Domination and Globalism.

They may squabble over different forms of Government Domination, but in the end they're on the same team as far as that goes. They both enjoy dominating Citizens and continuously getting us into more foreign interventions. So an alliance of sorts has been formed. It's good for them, but bad for Americans Citizens.