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[Robert W]

Reagan admitted it himself, so yer denial is worthless.

You did not listen to him. HE said he had no idea. But Reagan was the rare president who took blame even when he did nothing wrong. Biden or Obama never did that.

 

[Moonglow]

You did not listen to him. HE said he had no idea. But Reagan was the rare president who took blame even when he did nothing wrong. Biden or Obama never did that.

In his 1987 State of the Union address and subsequent speeches, Reagan acknowledged that his administration traded arms for hostages, a practice he had previously denied, and admitted the initiative "deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages"

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All we got out of Reagan was increased debt...and illegal moves.

This thread is not about anyone but Ronny.

 

[Robert W]

Israel provided the US Missiles for the sale and the profits were illegally diverted to support the Contra-Terrorists in Costa Rica.


He didn't remember approving it, but he accepted the evidence that he did.

No that is not correct. The so-called missiles were like rocket launchers and Israel believing it was a favor to be returned, sent the launchers to Iran. No launchers or missies were sent to the Contras and that would happen when the Saudis supplied arms to the Contras.

 

[Robert W]

In his 1987 State of the Union address and subsequent speeches, Reagan acknowledged that his administration traded arms for hostages, a practice he had previously denied, and admitted the initiative "deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages"


All we got out of Reagan was increased debt...and illegal moves.

He denied it since he had no idea at all about this. Arms went to Iran 2 times, not the one time you chatter your ass off about.

My information is valid since it is verified by a lot of those working for Reagan and yours no doubt comes from your handlers.

 

[Robert W]

What did GHWB do to cause the Soviets to collapse? Reagan went after them. And they knew he could out military them. So what did G Bush do against the Soviets?

No loyal Democrat so far never answered the question about Bush.

 

[Robert W]

The economy during Bill Clinton's presidency (1993–2001) experienced the longest economic expansion in U.S. history at the time, characterized by high growth, low unemployment, and a shift from large deficits to significant budget surpluses. Key successes included 22.7 million new jobs, low inflation, rising incomes, and the first balanced federal budget since 1969

Commentators who worked on the policy (including academics advising the administration) point to specific legislative choices and the Budget Enforcement Act rules that constrained discretionary spending, while other analysts stress that the late 1990s boom — driven by technology investment and a rising labor market — produced revenue growth that made surpluses achievable without dramatic cuts to major entitlement programs <a href="A Harvard professor who helped Bill Clinton balance the budget in the 1990s says Kevin McCarthy will struggle to keep that promise | Fortune" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a> <a href="A Surplus, If We Can Keep It: How the Federal Budget Surplus Happened | Brookings" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[4]</a>.

 

[BlindBoo]

No that is not correct. The so-called missiles were like rocket launchers and Israel believing it was a favor to be returned, sent the launchers to Iran. No launchers or missies were sent to the Contras and that would happen when the Saudis supplied arms to the Contras.

Don't take my word for it.

"Put simply, Israel would sell weapons from the U.S. to Iran, which had been designated a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984 and the subject of an arms embargo, in exchange for the release of American hostages held by Hezbollah, Iran’s ally, in Lebanon.

North and Casey then doubled down, funneling the profits from the arms sales into yet another illegal venture, a secret plan to support the Contras, the militants in Nicaragua which opposed the communist Sandinistas. This was in direct contravention of the Boland Amendments, which Congress had passed from 1982-84, specifically prohibiting U.S. support of the Contras."

The Iran-Contra Scandal – Association for Diplomatic Studies & Training

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It all came out. I remember the televised hearings.

The hostages were released, but of course Hezbollah took more hostages right away......

 

[Dante]

I have not yet heard from any Democrat that they subscribe to the Budgets of the USA.

I no longer subscribe to the budget of the USA however when Bill Clinton was president I did, he is credited for a surplus when his budget sent and approved by Congress never said one would happen.

So how did he get a surplus.
Dotcoms were in vogue. The public wanted to get rich. They were pouring money into operations where online you bought groceries and went to the store to pick them up. A pre-Amazon in fact. Now it is common to get groceries picked for us and delivered to our homes. I do it all the time. But no budget agreed to by Clinton called for a balanced budget nor a surplus HE happened to be lucky.

Good gawd, you're a dolt.

 

[Dante]

Commentators who worked on the policy (including academics advising the administration) point to specific legislative choices and the Budget Enforcement Act rules that constrained discretionary spending, while other analysts stress that the late 1990s boom — driven by technology investment and a rising labor market — produced revenue growth that made surpluses achievable without dramatic cuts to major entitlement programs <a href="A Harvard professor who helped Bill Clinton balance the budget in the 1990s says Kevin McCarthy will struggle to keep that promise | Fortune" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a> <a href="A Surplus, If We Can Keep It: How the Federal Budget Surplus Happened | Brookings" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[4]</a>.

Presidents get blame and credit for these things.

Your hatred of Clinton is noted. Warps anything you have to say.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It just would have taken one panicking Wing Commander to start World War III


Again, sensible people knew what I meant.

Not you.

Wrong

Much like us the commanders have no authority to launch on their own

Wrong you ******* idiot what you meant was what you typed and that is what everone knows

You are just too damn stupid to know what the **** you were saying

 

[Soupnazi630]

The afghani mujahideen.
Yea. Of course, the CIA investigated itself lol, but still found some bad stuff.

Nope they were not terrorists.

None of that suggests reagan knew

 

[TNHarley]

Come on now... you're destroying the romanticized fairy tale version of Reagan for them.

It really is crazy, isnt it?

 

[TNHarley]

Nope they were not terrorists.

None of that suggests reagan knew

Yea. Bin Laden, a great man.
They rebelled against the elected govt of afghanistan to start an islamic state. He knew, I mean, thats WHY all the groups were created. For an Islamic state.

 

[JoeB131]

Reagan is hated by Democrats especially the Atheists. JoeB131 can explain it.

Well, funny thing. What most people who actually were paying attention disliked about Ronnie Ray-Gun was that he destroyed the middle class and sent us on a perpetual cycle of deficit spending.

Nothing to do with religion. These were simply bad policies.

 

[JoeB131]

Well clearly you truly support Muslims. Apparently your being an atheist fell off the cliff.

No, I just don't think we should be continually fighting wars in their part of the world.

How long have we been fighting in the Middle East? Since I was a young man in the 1980s.

And where we are, 45 years later. Still fighting wars in the Middle East.

 

[sparky]

This thread is not about anyone but Ronny.

This thread is about establishing a metric for leaders in the court of public opinion Moon......

~S~

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yea. Bin Laden, a great man.
They rebelled against the elected govt of afghanistan to start an islamic state. He knew, I mean, thats WHY all the groups were created. For an Islamic state.

He came later they were fighting the soviets.

 

[TNHarley]

He came later they were fighting the soviets.

He came in 84. In 86 Reagan started sending them advanced weapons like stinger missiles. In 86 Reagan increased their financial aid from 20m yearly, to almost 700m.

 

[Soupnazi630]

He came in 84. In 86 Reagan started sending them advanced weapons like stinger missiles. In 86 Reagan increased their financial aid from 20m yearly, to almost 700m.

They were not terrorists then they were fighting our enemy

 

[TNHarley]

They were not terrorists then they were fighting our enemy

They were fighting against their elected government to instill an islamic regime.
You would be right if ignore the definition of a terrorist. But we arent.