Let me explain to you our best of all times president

[Robert W]

The economy during Bill Clinton's presidency (1993–2001) experienced the longest economic expansion in U.S. history at the time, characterized by high growth, low unemployment, and a shift from large deficits to significant budget surpluses. Key successes included 22.7 million new jobs, low inflation, rising incomes, and the first balanced federal budget since 1969

Clinton never at any point budgeted for a balanced budget or a surplus.
So why did the Surplus happen. I recall since I was involved in this.

Clinton got lucky since as president he happened to be president during the Dotcom boom where I was very busy appraising homes for people to wanted to buy dotcom stocks. And when they failed, Clinton was gone. He never caused the dotcom boom at all.

The rush to own stocks and when sold produced taxes that handled the deficit that would happen but for the stock market crashing.

 

[Moonglow]

No evidence that ever happened.

Yeah, your sharp-as-a-tack memory is a little dull.


The Reagan administration violated U.S. law by secretly selling arms to Iran to free hostages and fund Nicaraguan Contras, defying both an arms embargo and the Boland Amendment. The 1985–1986 operation, known as the Iran-Contra affair, bypassed Congress, with officials hiding actions from lawmakers. [1, 2, 3, 4]


The United States sold arms to Iran in the mid-1980s primarily to secure the release of seven American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group linked to Iran. This secret initiative, part of the "Iran-Contra affair," also aimed to gain influence in Tehran and was illegally used to fund anti-communist Contra rebels in Nicaragua.

 

[Dante]

Trump now says he did it to end the nuclear threat. However, a lot of Americans think it was already gone. Why Americans trusted Ayatollah puzzles me most.

Americans never trusted Ayatollah.

Why Americans trusted Trump puzzles the world and me most.

 

[Dante]

No evidence that ever happened.

Liar!

Liar!

Liar!

The Reagan administration faced major scandals, most notably the Iran-Contra affair, where officials circumvented Congress to fund Nicaraguan rebels. While 14 officials were charged and 11 convicted of crimes—including lying to Congress and obstruction of justice—investigations, including the Tower Commission, did not produce direct evidence that President Reagan personally violated laws.

 

[Moonglow]

Clinton never at any point budgeted for a balanced budget or a surplus.
So why did the Surplus happen. I recall since I was involved in this.

Clinton got lucky since as president he happened to be president during the Dotcom boom where I was very busy appraising homes for people to wanted to buy dotcom stocks. And when they failed, Clinton was gone. He never caused the dotcom boom at all.

The rush to own stocks and when sold produced taxes that handled the deficit that would happen but for the stock market crashing.

Clinton cut government costs.


Bill Clinton’s administration significantly reduced government costs, contributing to four consecutive budget surpluses from 1998 to 2001, the only such period from 1970 to 2023. His administration reduced the federal workforce by nearly 377,000, achieving the smallest federal civilian workforce in 40 years, and lowered federal spending from 22.2% of GDP in 1992 to 18% in 2000. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[BlindBoo]

What did GHWB do to cause the Soviets to collapse? Reagan went after them. And they knew he could out military them. So what did G Bush do against the Soviets?

Raygun didn't make them invade Afghanistan. That was the biggest strain on their economy. That and the fact that Russians were very envious of the abundant material goods available in the Western World.

"The CIA, under the oversight of the Carter administration and continuing into the Reagan/Bush era, began funneling weapons and funds to Afghan rebels (mujahideen) in 1979 as part of Operation Cyclone, a covert effort to fight Soviet influence. Authorized initially in July 1979, the operation escalated rapidly from non-lethal support to supplying weaponry to "bleed" the Soviets after their December 1979 invasion"

GHWB did something unheard of in the New Trump GOP. He avoiding public gloating about the collapse of the USSR to prevent a hardliner backlash against Mikhail Gorbachev, while fostering democratic shifts. When hardliners tried to overthrow Gorbachev, Bush worked quietly behind the scenes to support Russian leader Boris Yeltsin, providing intelligence that showed military hesitation, which helped Yeltsin defeat the coup. He was also involve is launching the Megatons To MegaWatts program where over a 20 year period we bought 500 tons worth of highly enriched uranium from decommissioned Nuclear War Heads from Russia, many of which came from The Ukraine.

 

[Robert W]

I've had Russian and German friends who were there, and who unlike you -- actually lived there - not on some silly visits.

I know their anecdotal stories.

I lived in Berlin long enough to know the facts. I took photos in East Berlin that looked like the war had just stopped. So much debris was piled up, and no sign buildings would be rebuilt, other than the Soviet Graves for their dead soldiers was a very lovely park like cemetery.

 

[Dante]

Clinton never at any point budgeted for a balanced budget or a surplus.
So why did the Surplus happen. I recall since I was involved in this.

Clinton got lucky since as president he happened to be president during the Dotcom boom where I was very busy appraising homes for people to wanted to buy dotcom stocks. And when they failed, Clinton was gone. He never caused the dotcom boom at all.

The rush to own stocks and when sold produced taxes that handled the deficit that would happen but for the stock market crashing.

A very dear friend was a spokesman for the Net/Web industry testifying before the US Congress and the Canadian government. I followed it all closely during those years.

Belittle it all you want. Budgets ends up screwed you blame the man behind the desk. Credit goes there too.

but lets get where you hate going - FACTS:

Bill Clinton: Booming ’90s Markets, Dot-Com Euphoria, and a Surplus Era

Explore how Bill Clinton’s balanced budgets, NAFTA, and pro-tech climate fueled a record ’90s bull market—until the dot-com bubble burst at decade’s end.

verifiedinvesting.com

The Clinton administration fostered the 1990s dot-com boom through pro-technology policies, deregulation, and infrastructure investment, fueling a record bull market and rapid internet expansion. Key initiatives included the 1996 Telecommunications Act, which sparked massive industry investment, and a "hands-off" regulatory approach that encouraged speculative investment in tech startups. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Key Ways the Clinton Administration Helped the Dot-Com Boom:

• Telecommunications Act of 1996: This legislation opened up competition in communications and spurred a massive, nearly \(\$500\) billion investment to build out the internet infrastructure between 1996 and 2001.
• Encouraging Internet Adoption: The administration promoted technology use in schools and households, treating digital tools as critical for economic growth.
• Pro-Tech Climate and Deregulation: The administration's focus on free-market policies, including the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall, facilitated massive financial sector involvement in the technology market.
• "Cheap Money" Policies: Policies often described as promoting low-interest rates (cheap money) encouraged high-risk investments into internet startups. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Outcome:
These actions, along with a generally healthy economy, caused massive capital expenditure, leading to intense wealth creation and the creation of billionaires, but also created an "irrational exuberance" bubble that ultimately burst in 2000-2001

I also had a distant connection to this man, so I followed his career:

Gene Sperling was a pivotal economic advisor during the Clinton administration, serving as Deputy Director (1993–1996) and later Director of the National Economic Council (1997–2001). He was a key architect of the 1993 deficit reduction plan and the 1997 bipartisan balanced budget agreement, focusing on fiscal discipline and fostering long-term economic expansion. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Key Contributions to Clinton Economy:

• Budget & Fiscal Policy: Led the White House team on the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act and the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which helped eliminate federal deficits and produce budget surpluses.
• Key Initiatives: Played a major role in expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), creating the Hope Scholarship Tax Credit, and establishing Empowerment Zones.
• International Trade: Co-negotiated the 1999 agreement for China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO).
• Key Economic Advisor: As Director of the National Economic Council (NEC) from 1997-2001, he acted as the "honest broker" coordinating economic policy for President Clinton. [1, 2, 3]

Sperling is recognized for promoting a "pro-growth progressive" approach, combining fiscal responsibility with targeted investments in education, health care, and technology.

Bill Clinton: Booming ’90s Markets, Dot-Com Euphoria, and a Surplus Era

Explore how Bill Clinton’s balanced budgets, NAFTA, and pro-tech climate fueled a record ’90s bull market—until the dot-com bubble burst at decade’s end.

verifiedinvesting.com

btw, Watch Trump take credit for any AI boom.

 

[Dante]

I lived in Berlin long enough to know the facts. I took photos in East Berlin that looked like the war had just stopped. So much debris was piled up, and no sign buildings would be rebuilt, other than the Soviet Graves for their dead soldiers was a very lovely park like cemetery.

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So what?

You did that and you still come off as an Ugly American with a great surplus of ignorance.

 

[BlindBoo]

No evidence that ever happened.

The buck stopped with him. At least that's how it use to be.

Address to the Nation on the Iran Arms and Contra Aid Controversy and Administration Goals

081287d

www.reaganlibrary.gov

 

[ChristisKing]

Yeah, your sharp-as-a-tack memory is a little dull.


The Reagan administration violated U.S. law by secretly selling arms to Iran to free hostages and fund Nicaraguan Contras, defying both an arms embargo and the Boland Amendment. The 1985–1986 operation, known as the Iran-Contra affair, bypassed Congress, with officials hiding actions from lawmakers. [1, 2, 3, 4]


The United States sold arms to Iran in the mid-1980s primarily to secure the release of seven American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group linked to Iran. This secret initiative, part of the "Iran-Contra affair," also aimed to gain influence in Tehran and was illegally used to fund anti-communist Contra rebels in Nicaragua.

At least he was honest. Biden couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.

 

[Robert W]

Raygun didn't make them invade Afghanistan. That was the biggest strain on their economy. That and the fact that Russians were very envious of the abundant material goods available in the Western World.

"The CIA, under the oversight of the Carter administration and continuing into the Reagan/Bush era, began funneling weapons and funds to Afghan rebels (mujahideen) in 1979 as part of Operation Cyclone, a covert effort to fight Soviet influence. Authorized initially in July 1979, the operation escalated rapidly from non-lethal support to supplying weaponry to "bleed" the Soviets after their December 1979 invasion"

GHWB did something unheard of in the New Trump GOP. He avoiding public gloating about the collapse of the USSR to prevent a hardliner backlash against Mikhail Gorbachev, while fostering democratic shifts. When hardliners tried to overthrow Gorbachev, Bush worked quietly behind the scenes to support Russian leader Boris Yeltsin, providing intelligence that showed military hesitation, which helped Yeltsin defeat the coup. He was also involve is launching the Megatons To MegaWatts program where over a 20 year period we bought 500 tons worth of highly enriched uranium from decommissioned Nuclear War Heads from Russia, many of which came from The Ukraine.

Carter did not do that.
When Reagan became president, even he was not going to get involved in Afghanistan. A D congressman is who got funds and arms sent to defeat the Soviets, so he gets credit for that you think Carter did. The rest is just your opinion. You never set foot in East Berlin though I did. It was a real disaster then. I went to an East Berlin restaurant to see how the food was and it was garbage.

Texas congressman got arms to Afghanistan under Reagan

Arrives Charlie Wilson

Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History (later titled Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of How the Wildest Man in Congress and a Rogue CIA Agent Changed the History of Our Times) is a 2003 book by George Crile III. It details U.S. Representative Charlie Wilson's role in providing assistance to the Afghan Mujahideen during the Soviet–Afghan War.<a href="Charlie Wilson's War (book) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>

The book depicts the Texas Congressman’s role in facilitating the CIA-led Operation Cyclone, a covert mission within Afghanistan. Wilson solicited the aid of CIA officer Gust Avrakotos, a member of a small team at the agency assigned to the Afghanistan portfolio, as well as then-CIA weapons specialist Mike Vickers. This operation would become one of the largest military operations ever undertaken by the CIA, spanning 13 years and running into the hundreds of millions of dollars.<a href="Charlie Wilson's War (book) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2</a>

 

[Robert W]

The buck stopped with him. At least that's how it use to be.

Address to the Nation on the Iran Arms and Contra Aid Controversy and Administration Goals

081287d

www.reaganlibrary.gov

Israel who gets blamed all the time by Democrats actually sent arms to Iran. Reagan replenished the arms for Israel, so he sent arms to Israel.


The Contras. The US got Saudi Arabia to arm the Contras since Reagan could not arm them.

 

[Robert W]

Yeah, your sharp-as-a-tack memory is a little dull.


The Reagan administration violated U.S. law by secretly selling arms to Iran to free hostages and fund Nicaraguan Contras, defying both an arms embargo and the Boland Amendment. The 1985–1986 operation, known as the Iran-Contra affair, bypassed Congress, with officials hiding actions from lawmakers. [1, 2, 3, 4]


The United States sold arms to Iran in the mid-1980s primarily to secure the release of seven American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, a paramilitary group linked to Iran. This secret initiative, part of the "Iran-Contra affair," also aimed to gain influence in Tehran and was illegally used to fund anti-communist Contra rebels in Nicaragua.

Thanks for the video that proved two things. Reagan never sent arms to Iran for hostages. The full story is this. Israel all on its own sent arms to Iran to free hostages. Reagan had no idea it happened. Israel asked for the arms to be replenished and it is this Ragan approved. Having no idea the arms had been sent by Israel. Saudi Arabia funded the Contras. Reagan never knew.

The United States jailed an Israeli and Israel wanted him released. They thought if the hostages got released the spy we had in prison would be freed. And he was freed.

 

[Robert W]

So what?

You did that and you still come off as an Ugly American with a great surplus of ignorance.

Such personal attacks never work.

 

[Dante]

Such personal attacks never work.

Yet, that's all you do when it comes to Canadians.

 

[Moonglow]

Thanks for the video that proved two things. Reagan never sent arms to Iran for hostages. The full story is this. Israel all on its own sent arms to Iran to free hostages. Reagan had no idea it happened. Israel asked for the arms to be replenished and it is this Ragan approved. Having no idea the arms had been sent by Israel. Saudi Arabia funded the Contras. Reagan never knew.

The United States jailed an Israeli and Israel wanted him released. They thought if the hostages got released the spy we had in prison would be freed. And he was freed.

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Reagan admitted it himself, so yer denial is worthless.

 

[BlindBoo]

Carter did not do that.
When Reagan became president, even he was not going to get involved in Afghanistan. A D congressman is who got funds and arms sent to defeat the Soviets, so he gets credit for that you think Carter did. The rest is just your opinion. You never set foot in East Berlin though I did. It was a real disaster then. I went to an East Berlin restaurant to see how the food was and it was garbage.

Texas congressman got arms to Afghanistan under Reagan

Arrives Charlie Wilson

Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History (later titled Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of How the Wildest Man in Congress and a Rogue CIA Agent Changed the History of Our Times) is a 2003 book by George Crile III. It details U.S. Representative Charlie Wilson's role in providing assistance to the Afghan Mujahideen during the Soviet–Afghan War.<a href="Charlie Wilson's War (book) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>

The book depicts the Texas Congressman’s role in facilitating the CIA-led Operation Cyclone, a covert mission within Afghanistan. Wilson solicited the aid of CIA officer Gust Avrakotos, a member of a small team at the agency assigned to the Afghanistan portfolio, as well as then-CIA weapons specialist Mike Vickers. This operation would become one of the largest military operations ever undertaken by the CIA, spanning 13 years and running into the hundreds of millions of dollars.<a href="Charlie Wilson's War (book) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2</a>

The CIA, under Carter and Brzezinski, started the program before the Soviets invaded.

 

[Robert W]

A very dear friend was a spokesman for the Net/Web industry testifying before the US Congress and the Canadian government. I followed it all closely during those years.

Belittle it all you want. Budgets ends up screwed you blame the man behind the desk. Credit goes there too.

but lets get where you hate going - FACTS:

Bill Clinton: Booming ’90s Markets, Dot-Com Euphoria, and a Surplus Era

Explore how Bill Clinton’s balanced budgets, NAFTA, and pro-tech climate fueled a record ’90s bull market—until the dot-com bubble burst at decade’s end.

verifiedinvesting.com

I also had a distant connection to this man, so I followed his career:

Gene Sperling was a pivotal economic advisor during the Clinton administration, serving as Deputy Director (1993–1996) and later Director of the National Economic Council (1997–2001). He was a key architect of the 1993 deficit reduction plan and the 1997 bipartisan balanced budget agreement, focusing on fiscal discipline and fostering long-term economic expansion. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Key Contributions to Clinton Economy:

• Budget & Fiscal Policy: Led the White House team on the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act and the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which helped eliminate federal deficits and produce budget surpluses.
• Key Initiatives: Played a major role in expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), creating the Hope Scholarship Tax Credit, and establishing Empowerment Zones.
• International Trade: Co-negotiated the 1999 agreement for China's entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO).
• Key Economic Advisor: As Director of the National Economic Council (NEC) from 1997-2001, he acted as the "honest broker" coordinating economic policy for President Clinton. [1, 2, 3]

Sperling is recognized for promoting a "pro-growth progressive" approach, combining fiscal responsibility with targeted investments in education, health care, and technology.

Bill Clinton: Booming ’90s Markets, Dot-Com Euphoria, and a Surplus Era

Explore how Bill Clinton’s balanced budgets, NAFTA, and pro-tech climate fueled a record ’90s bull market—until the dot-com bubble burst at decade’s end.

verifiedinvesting.com

btw, Watch Trump take credit for any AI boom.

I have not yet heard from any Democrat that they subscribe to the Budgets of the USA.

I no longer subscribe to the budget of the USA however when Bill Clinton was president I did, he is credited for a surplus when his budget sent and approved by Congress never said one would happen.

So how did he get a surplus.
Dotcoms were in vogue. The public wanted to get rich. They were pouring money into operations where online you bought groceries and went to the store to pick them up. A pre-Amazon in fact. Now it is common to get groceries picked for us and delivered to our homes. I do it all the time. But no budget agreed to by Clinton called for a balanced budget nor a surplus HE happened to be lucky.

 

[BlindBoo]

Reagan never sent arms to Iran for hostages. The full story is this. Israel all on its own sent arms to Iran to free hostages.

Israel provided the US Missiles for the sale and the profits were illegally diverted to support the Contra-Terrorists in Costa Rica.

Reagan had no idea it happened.

He didn't remember approving it, but he accepted the evidence that he did.