Leftists, this teen must be crushed!!!

[mak2]

You don't see a difference between cutting a teenagers breasts off because of gender dysphoria and general pediatric surgery? You need help.

What about general body dysphoria? That's a thing too. Should we also start cutting off the arms and legs of minors, catering to their dysphoria?

How many teenagers get their breasts cut off? I really don't know, any real info would be appreciated.

 

[Anomalism]

How many teenagers get their breasts cut off? I really don't know, any real info would be appreciated.

Did you read the OP?

 

[JoeB131]

Already explained that. When doctors are pushing sex change procedures on children, people are going to have something to say about it.

And they'll be told to mind their own fucking business. That was easy.

Wait…that never happened? Huh…what about all those articles that said it did? Weren’t there people who died from it?

Nowhere near the level of fake panic over it.

HIPPA protects personal information from being released, I don’t think saying 5000 people from age 6 are identifying themselves as having gender dysphoria violated hIPPA unless they release names and stuff with it.

H-I-P-A-A. If you cant' get the abbreviation right, I can't take you seriously on what you think it in it.

No, what’s irrelevant is you bringing up what happened with big tobacco in the past. What is relevant is, if you feel children are capable of making these kinds of decisions, then you should also support them making other grown up decisions. So…do you? Do you think a 12 year old should be able to tell their parents they want to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes?

well, no, those things are actually against the law...

I mean, if you think they can tell their parents they want to have hormone therapy and eventually sexual reassignment surgery, then you must also be in favor of them making those other decisions. Or what about school? I mean, if a 6 year old really really doesn’t want to go to school anymore…they should be able to make that decision, right?

Wow, how many other tangents do you want to go on, Bible Boy?

 

[mak2]

Did you even read the OP?

I dunno, I will go back and make sure.

 

[Anomalism]

H-I-P-A-A. If you cant' get the abbreviation right, I can't take you seriously on what you think it in it.

If you don't know the difference between an acronym and an abbreviation I can't take you seriously.

 

[mak2]

I dunno, I will go back and make sure.

Nope, I still did not see any stats about how many teenagers were getting their breast cut off.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't see a difference between cutting a teenagers breasts off because of gender dysphoria and general pediatric surgery? You need help.

What about general body dysphoria? That's a thing too. Should we also start cutting off the arms and legs of minors, catering to their dysphoria?

I'm being blunt. If you start letting kids sue because they didn't like the treatment they got as a child, you might as well close down all the children's hospitals.

Court: Extraordinary damages OK in 'wrongful life' case

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it's OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

apnews.com

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it’s OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

The unanimous decision Thursday came in the case of a woman who became pregnant in 2011 after a federally funded health clinic mistakenly gave her a shot of flu vaccine instead of the contraceptive Depo-Provera. Her child was born with a condition that causes cognitive delays, slowed speech and language skills, epilepsy and vision problems.

Following a trial in 2020, U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik awarded the child, Sandra, and her parents, Yesenia Pacheco and Luis Lemus, $10 million — $7.5 million for her medical, educational and other expenses, and $2.5 million in damages for her parents.

 

[HeyNorm]

I'm being blunt. If you start letting kids sue because they didn't like the treatment they got as a child, you might as well close down all the children's hospitals.

Court: Extraordinary damages OK in 'wrongful life' case

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it's OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

apnews.com

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it’s OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

The unanimous decision Thursday came in the case of a woman who became pregnant in 2011 after a federally funded health clinic mistakenly gave her a shot of flu vaccine instead of the contraceptive Depo-Provera. Her child was born with a condition that causes cognitive delays, slowed speech and language skills, epilepsy and vision problems.

Following a trial in 2020, U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik awarded the child, Sandra, and her parents, Yesenia Pacheco and Luis Lemus, $10 million — $7.5 million for her medical, educational and other expenses, and $2.5 million in damages for her parents.

There is a HUGE difference between necessary surgical procedures and cosmetic removal of perfectly normal body parts.

 

[HeyNorm]

I'm being blunt. If you start letting kids sue because they didn't like the treatment they got as a child, you might as well close down all the children's hospitals.

Court: Extraordinary damages OK in 'wrongful life' case

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it's OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

apnews.com

SEATTLE (AP) — The Washington Supreme Court says that under state law, it’s OK for judges to award extraordinary damages in so-called “wrongful life” cases where a child has birth defects or disabilities that require extensive care.

The unanimous decision Thursday came in the case of a woman who became pregnant in 2011 after a federally funded health clinic mistakenly gave her a shot of flu vaccine instead of the contraceptive Depo-Provera. Her child was born with a condition that causes cognitive delays, slowed speech and language skills, epilepsy and vision problems.

Following a trial in 2020, U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik awarded the child, Sandra, and her parents, Yesenia Pacheco and Luis Lemus, $10 million — $7.5 million for her medical, educational and other expenses, and $2.5 million in damages for her parents.

Sounds like they got off easy. What’s the problem?

 

[JoeB131]

There is a HUGE difference between necessary surgical procedures and cosmetic removal of perfectly normal body parts.

Who decides what is necessary? If you are going to let adults decide they didn't like a treatment they got as a child and they can come back and sue, you realize the chaos that would create.

Sounds like they got off easy. What’s the problem?

The problem of letting people due for petty malpractice claims. Birth control didn't work, they had a deformed kid, and now they have to pay for that.
Imagine what happens when you set as a precedent any adult can sue for treatment they got as a child.

 

[HeyNorm]

Who decides what is necessary? If you are going to let adults decide they didn't like a treatment they got as a child and they can come back and sue, you realize the chaos that would create.


The problem of letting people due for petty malpractice claims. Birth control didn't work, they had a deformed kid, and now they have to pay for that.
Imagine what happens when you set as a precedent any adult can sue for treatment they got as a child.

A 13 year old child is incapable of making such life altering decisions Joe. She is reliant on the adults, including professionals to provide guidance.

When the adults fail, they are to be held accountable for their actions. A lawsuit should not be the least of their concerns. At some point a lengthy prison term should be.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And they'll be told to mind their own fucking business. That was easy.

Nowhere near the level of fake panic over it.



H-I-P-A-A. If you cant' get the abbreviation right, I can't take you seriously on what you think it in it.


well, no, those things are actually against the law...



Wow, how many other tangents do you want to go on, Bible Boy?

And they'll be told to mind their own fucking business. That was easy

They might be, and that will be a sad day when children no longer have people to stand up for them, when they are being abused.

Nowhere near the level of fake panic over it.

So it did happen…

H-I-P-A-A. If you cant' get the abbreviation right, I can't take you seriously on what you think it in it.

My bad! I spelled it wrong. Still, my point remains.

well, no, those things are actually against the law...

We’ll, according to what you are saying, they shouldn’t be, because children have the capacity to make life altering choices, so, I guess they need to repeal those laws, right? Those laws are discrimination!

Wow, how many other tangents do you want to go on, Bible Boy?

It’s still the same argument. I’m just making a point. You seem to think that children are capable of making adult choices, so, what other adult choices should they be able to make?

Also, why Bible boy? Have I made a single argument from a religious point of view, in this thread, or the other?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Already explained that. When doctors are pushing sex change procedures on children, people are going to have something to say about it.

And they'll be told to mind their own fucking business. That was easy.

It is always the wish of those who want to do evil, that good people should “mind their own business”. Evil demands “tolerance” for itself, but has no tolerance for those who oppose evil.

“What I particularly admire in him is the firm stand he has taken, not only against the oppressors of his countrymen, but also against those opportunists who are always ready to compromise with the Devil. He perceives very clearly that the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.”

—Albert Einstein, in a tribute to Pablo Casals​

 

[ThisIsMe]

It is always the wish of those who want to do evil, that good people should “mind their own business”. Evil demands “tolerance” for itself, but has no tolerance for those who oppose evil.

“What I particularly admire in him is the firm stand he has taken, not only against the oppressors of his countrymen, but also against those opportunists who are always ready to compromise with the Devil. He perceives very clearly that the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.”​

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—Albert Einstein, in a tribute to Pablo Casals​

We’ll, I stand on the side of freedom and rights, if someone wants to transition, it is their right to do so, but nobody has a right to start pumping little kids full of puberty blockers, hormones, and social influence because one day they said “they feel like the opposite sex”. Theyre kids…they don’t know what they are or what they want.

 

[JoeB131]

They might be, and that will be a sad day when children no longer have people to stand up for them, when they are being abused.

She had a whole battery of tests and specialists who worked on her case... people who actually know what they are doing.

Did they make a mistake? Maybe. Not seeing that in what has been filed so far, though.

We’ll, according to what you are saying, they shouldn’t be, because children have the capacity to make life altering choices, so, I guess they need to repeal those laws, right? Those laws are discrimination!

Not really, because we all kind of agreed that these things SHOULD be against the law.
We also have all kind of agreed that your medical decisions are your own fucking business and everyone else should butt the fuck out.

It’s still the same argument. I’m just making a point. You seem to think that children are capable of making adult choices, so, what other adult choices should they be able to make?

Well, medical decisions, obviously, with the consultation of medical professionals and parents.. Hello.

You think any doctor is going to want to do ANY procedure on a kid if that kid can come back and sue them when they are 18?

It is always the wish of those who want to do evil, that good people should “mind their own business”. Evil demands “tolerance” for itself, but has no tolerance for those who oppose evil.

Guy, frankly, I don't want a bunch of religious crazies to tell me how to live my life, thank you very much.

 

[JoeB131]

We’ll, I stand on the side of freedom and rights, if someone wants to transition, it is their right to do so, but nobody has a right to start pumping little kids full of puberty blockers, hormones, and social influence because one day they said “they feel like the opposite sex”. Theyre kids…they don’t know what they are or what they want.

Shhh.. Mormon Bob will tell you that any sexuality that isn't a Mormon telling his wife to mind her place and do what she is told is "Evil".

 

[Bob Blaylock]

She had a whole battery of tests and specialists who worked on her case... people who actually know what they are doing.

Anyone who really knew what he was doing would know that a girl is not a boy, and that a girl cannot be made into a boy, and would know better than to apply harmful drugs and mutilating surgery in a futile attempt to turn a girl into a boy.

To believe in any of the antiscientific bullshit that underlies the madness of “transgenderism” is prima facie proof of someone who is wholly unqualified to be working in a medical field.

 

[martybegan]

Here's another one to add to the list:

‘Afraid of a life I hadn’t tasted’: Why trans male is back to being a woman

Prisha suffers vocal cord pain and severe vaginal atrophy from the testosterone treatment. She also, she said, lost part of her nipples after they were grafted back on during her mastectomy. Because of her mastectomy she will never be able to breastfeed, and Prisha doesn’t even know whether she is still fertile.

But she is in a happy relationship now and talking to her family. Prisha also enrolled in Ferris State University to become a therapist and help other people who are struggling.

 

[ThisIsMe]

She had a whole battery of tests and specialists who worked on her case... people who actually know what they are doing.

Did they make a mistake? Maybe. Not seeing that in what has been filed so far, though.



Not really, because we all kind of agreed that these things SHOULD be against the law.
We also have all kind of agreed that your medical decisions are your own fucking business and everyone else should butt the fuck out.



Well, medical decisions, obviously, with the consultation of medical professionals and parents.. Hello.

You think any doctor is going to want to do ANY procedure on a kid if that kid can come back and sue them when they are 18?



Guy, frankly, I don't want a bunch of religious crazies to tell me how to live my life, thank you very much.

She had a whole battery of tests and specialists who worked on her case... people who actually know what they are doing.

Did they make a mistake? Maybe. Not seeing that in what has been filed so far, though.

Well, she’s claiming she was coerced, that the doctors were basically pushing for it to happen. So, yes, they made a mistake.

Not really, because we all kind of agreed that these things SHOULD be against the law.
We also have all kind of agreed that your medical decisions are your own fucking business and everyone else should butt the fuck out.

You can’t have it both ways. You are saying that certain things for children should be against the law….I’m going to assume you feel they are things that children shouldn’t be allowed to decide for themselves…but when it comes to a 12 year old deciding they want to make a life altering decision to transition to another sex, even as young as 6 years old, you fell that is acceptable.

And no, everyone else shouldn’t butt out when someone is trying to transition a child…or thinks that because 6 year old Timmy comes home one day and says he feels like a girl, that the parents think it’s a good idea to mess with natural development and put them on blockers. I mean, you have teachers who are trying to mess with these kids behind parents backs, and if Timmy shows interest in other boys at 6 years old…cause ya know, normal 6 year old boys are not thinking about relationships, and girls are “icky”, so they naturally hang around their friends…who are boys, but teacher thinks maybe little Timmy is actually a girl and starts dressing him up in girls clothes and calling him sally…we’ll I wonder where Timmy got the idea he might be a girl? But the parents are like “well, perhaps we need to stop puberty!”

You think any doctor is going to want to do ANY procedure on a kid if that kid can come back and sue them when they are 18?

Absolutely! Because we know that the leftist activists will be there to defend them….it’s almost like this has happened before….

 

[JoeB131]

Anyone who really knew what he was doing would know that a girl is not a boy, and that a girl cannot be made into a boy, and would know better than to apply harmful drugs and mutilating surgery in a futile attempt to turn a girl into a boy.

Yet they have the medical degrees and you string wires for a living. Stay in your lane, Mormon Bob.

Well, she’s claiming she was coerced, that the doctors were basically pushing for it to happen. So, yes, they made a mistake.

Or she is just a messed up little head case who wasn't going to be a screwup no matter what. Again, by her own admission, (in her own court filing) she suffers from Suicidal Ideation, Porn addiction, and a whole host of other issues.

You can’t have it both ways. You are saying that certain things for children should be against the law….I’m going to assume you feel they are things that children shouldn’t be allowed to decide for themselves…but when it comes to a 12 year old deciding they want to make a life altering decision to transition to another sex, even as young as 6 years old, you fell that is acceptable.

Pretty much. Let's be blunt... less than 2% of all transgender kids even get the hormone therapy...

And no, everyone else shouldn’t butt out when someone is trying to transition a child…or thinks that because 6 year old Timmy comes home one day and says he feels like a girl, that the parents think it’s a good idea to mess with natural development and put them on blockers. I mean, you have teachers who are trying to mess with these kids behind parents backs, and if Timmy shows interest in other boys at 6 years old…cause ya know, normal 6 year old boys are not thinking about relationships, and girls are “icky”, so they naturally hang around their friends…who are boys, but teacher thinks maybe little Timmy is actually a girl and starts dressing him up in girls clothes and calling him sally…we’ll I wonder where Timmy got the idea he might be a girl? But the parents are like “well, perhaps we need to stop puberty!”

If you think that medical interventions are that easy to get, you are delusional.

Chloe Brockman professed to being trans from age 9, she didn't even get drugs until she was 12.

Absolutely! Because we know that the leftist activists will be there to defend them….it’s almost like this has happened before….

I would hope so... if Doctor's can't practice their craft without fear of being sued, we won't have a medical system.

What amazes me is your side wants to limit the ability of people to recover damages, usually, except in this case. Try to be a little consistent.