Leftists, this teen must be crushed!!!

[Bob Blaylock]

Not everyone has the same sexuality or gender identity that you have. Doesn't make them evil, or wrong, just different.

Who they go after minors, then yes, it absolutely does make them evil. It absolutely does make them wrong.

 

[Hollie]

who is forcing them?



Again, you work on the assumption that there is any sexual deviancy. Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom. Only humans get worked up about sex and gender roles.

My point was this Cow tried to find something that supported her position that gender transition was bad, and instead found something that condemned "conversion Therapy", a practice so damaging states have had to move to outlaw it.



The fact that you use a hateful word like "Faggot" (I bet you say the N-word in the privacy of your own home, too) tells me it's more your hangup than anything else.


Actually, the article is pretty clear that conversion therapy doesn't work, and probably does more harm than good.

Here's another article from the same Group.

The Lies and Dangers of Efforts to Change Sexual Orientation or…

"Reparative" or "conversion" therapy is a dangerous practice that targets LGBTQ youth and seeks to change their sexual or gender identities.

www.hrc.org

So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression. Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades, but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy. Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide.

To date, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico all have laws or regulations protecting youth from this harmful practice. Eight of these state laws or regulations were enacted under Republican governors. A growing number of municipalities have also enacted similar protections, including at least 70 cities and counties in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington and Wisconsin.



The point is, that other than your own sexual hang ups, what is your real argument?

Not everyone has the same sexuality or gender identity that you have. Doesn't make them evil, or wrong, just different.

Who is forcing them?

Do you think a 6 year old is tugging at his mommy's skirt to go see a freakish monster?

 

[JoeB131]

It's a faggot source. No sane human being is going to take anything from such a source seriously. That you do is rather telling, but not of anything that we didn't already know about you.

Here's the thing, Bob.

When I want to know about a group, I actually listen to people who are or were members of the group.

For instance, most of my opinions about your cult come from what I've learned from Ex-Mormons.

If I want to know how gay people feel about something, I ask gay people. Not that they are a monolithic block.

 

[JoeB131]

Who they go after minors, then yes, it absolutely does make them evil. It absolutely does make them wrong.

And again, nobody is doing that...

Frankly, how about a deal. We make an agreement that you don't tell kids about being gay until they are 18, and we also don't indoctrinate them into any religion until they are 18.

IT seems you are fine with indoctrination, as long as it's YOUR indoctrination.

Do you think a 6 year old is tugging at his mommy's skirt to go see a freakish monster?

NO, but I'm pretty sure the mommies who are taking them are doing it not because they want their kids to be trans, but because they want their kids to not be bigots like you and Bob.

The problem is, you are on the wrong side of history.

Just like you were with the Civil Rights Movement
Just like you were with the Women's Liberation Movement
Just like you were with the gay rights movement.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Here's the thing, Bob.
When I want to know about a group, I actually listen to people who are or were members of the group.
For instance, most of my opinions about your cult come from what I've learned from Ex-Mormons.

There's not a thing that you have said about Mormons, that you would have got from anyone who actually knows anything about Mormonism.

There's a whole industry built up on the profession of spreading lies and hatred against Mormons; people who have made their names and their livings doing so. Most of them are much, much better at it than you will ever be, and not one of them will touch most of the lies that you insist on telling about us. You should certainly know that if any of the bullshit that you insist on spreading about us had any rational basis at all, you'd be hearing it from the likes of Ed Decker or Jerald and Sandra Tanner. Even they won't touch the lies that you insist on telling, because they know that doing so would destroy whatever credibility they have managed to attain.

You're ling here, about having learned anything from “ex-Mormons”, just as you lie about everything else.

Lying is what you do.

Lying is what you are.

Lying is what defines you, above anything and everything else.

If I want to know how gay people feel about something, I ask gay people. Not that they are a monolithic block.

You're looking to morally- and mentally-fucked-up freaks to tell you anything about ethics and reality. The error there is obvious to any sane person.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The problem is, you are on the wrong side of history.

Natural selection says otherwise.

Your side is the trash and detritus that natural selection functions to clear away.

 

[Hollie]

And again, nobody is doing that...

Frankly, how about a deal. We make an agreement that you don't tell kids about being gay until they are 18, and we also don't indoctrinate them into any religion until they are 18.

IT seems you are fine with indoctrination, as long as it's YOUR indoctrination.



NO, but I'm pretty sure the mommies who are taking them are doing it not because they want their kids to be trans, but because they want their kids to not be bigots like you and Bob.

The problem is, you are on the wrong side of history.

Just like you were with the Civil Rights Movement
Just like you were with the Women's Liberation Movement
Just like you were with the gay rights movement.

Oh, I see. Forcing a chikd to attend Tranny Story Time hosted by a convicted child molester is a way to de-bigot a 6 year old. The sexual perversion of parents who force their children to attend these freak shows is really remarkable. This is inflicted on helpless and naïve children who trust grownups for guidance and help. .

Lovely.

The problem is you are on the the wrong side of a thinking human. The leftist notion of child abuse being admirable is an inversion of reality. Child abuse by the left now includes various forms of poisoning with hormones and puberty blocking drugs and includes mutilating surgeries to make a child appear to resemble a gender not their own,

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yup, that's why they have parents. If the parents are transphobic bigots who try to slap some Jesus into her, that's why we have legal guardians.



Right, it's all a conspiracy!!!



I'm sure you do. but the reason why there's a increase is because they are better at recognizing it now.


Nope, HIPAA specifically prohibits release of medical information.



I wouldn't know. And I've said repeatedly, if the doctors screwed up here, they should pay malpractice settlements. I'm just not seeing malpractice in this rambling 35 page filing. I'm seeing a very disturbed young woman who insisted she was something she wasn't. But since HIPAA won't let Kaiser release her full medical records, we won't know for sure. But enjoy her why you can, I guess. And throw her away when you are done with her.



Six year olds are probably too young. But again, I'm not a doctor. Neither are you. Neither is that Mormon Freak who has been stalking me all day.


Funny you should mention smoking, because Big Tobacco was SPECIFICALLY marketing their products to 13 year olds for decades (and they are doing the same with vaping now). Yet when liberals try to put a stop to it, Republicans went to the mattresses for years

Yup, that's why they have parents. If the parents are transphobic bigots who try to slap some Jesus into her, that's why we have legal guardians.

Who said the parents were transphobic? Did they try to use religion on her to make her change her mind? I didn’t see that mentioned.

I'm sure you do. but the reason why there's a increase is because they are better at recognizing it now.

Ahh, so in a single year, we had a 100% better chance to detect it, so there was a 100% chance jump in self diagnosis.

Again, I want to know the age range, and that’s important because if a lot of them skew toward the younger ages, like in the 6-10 year old range, then one would have to question if they are being mis diagnosed. Are teachers reporting them as gender dysphoric? We’ve certainly seen stories as of late where teachers are going behind the parents backs, calling their students by other pronouns and by other names as well, allowing children to dress up in opposite sex clothing etc.

Plus, you have all kinds of influence via YouTube and TikTok (such as the kind of influence Chloe cole said she watched).

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m sure as times change, people are more comfortable expressing their true sexuality and that would lead to an increase, but that also doesn’t explain such a dramatic jump in a single year, when you factor in that young kids may be being misdiagnosed, or, they watched a YouTube video and now suddenly they call themselves trans.

Nope, HIPAA specifically prohibits release of medical information.

Nobody’s medical records would be released. Just saying there are x number of age 6, x number of age 7…etc…isn’t violating hippa. Like I said, they already have the data that shows ages “6-17” which means they likely already have the numbers of each age in thsg range. Releasing that data doesn’t violate anyone’s medical records.

Funny you should mention smoking, because Big Tobacco was SPECIFICALLY marketing their products to 13 year olds for decades (and they are doing the same with vaping now). Yet when liberals try to put a stop to it, Republicans went to the mattresses for years

Ok, but what those companies do is not relevant to this topic. If we are saying that a 12 year old has the capacity to make a decision that can change their body, and have psychological effects, then they should be able to make any other adult decision, right?

 

[JoeB131]

There's not a thing that you have said about Mormons, that you would have got from anyone who actually knows anything about Mormonism.

Except you never refute anything I say. Some of your attempts, like Joseph Smith wasn't really fucking those little girls, are laughable at best.

There's a whole industry built up on the profession of spreading lies and hatred against Mormons; people who have made their names and their livings doing so. Most of them are much, much better at it than you will ever be, and not one of them will touch most of the lies that you insist on telling about us. You should certainly know that if any of the bullshit that you insist on spreading about us had any rational basis at all, you'd be hearing it from the likes of Ed Decker or Jerald and Sandra Tanner. Even they won't touch the lies that you insist on telling, because they know that doing so would destroy whatever credibility they have managed to attain.

Um, yeah, if your cult was on the up and up, they wouldn't have paid Hoffman millions of dollars for all the fake documents he produced like the Salamander Letter. The Tanners had their doubts about it's authenticity, but your cult leaders paid him to try to hide it.

Salamander letter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You're looking to morally- and mentally-fucked-up freaks to tell you anything about ethics and reality. The error there is obvious to any sane person.

again, you are the one who wants to murder people for practicing birth control you don't approve of or having politics you don't like.

That's morally and mentally fucked up.

Natural selection says otherwise.

Your side is the trash and detritus that natural selection functions to clear away.

Natural Selection doesn't really apply to humans... at least not at this point, where we do our best to preserve everyone.
If it did, white people would eventually be on the way out.

The reality is, just like your side was on the wrong side of history on Civil Rights, Women's liberation and gay marriage, you are on the wrong side of history on this one.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, I see. Forcing a chikd to attend Tranny Story Time hosted by a convicted child molester is a way to de-bigot a 6 year old. The sexual perversion of parents who force their children to attend these freak shows is really remarkable. This is inflicted on helpless and naïve children who trust grownups for guidance and help. .

Lovely.

The problem is you are on the the wrong side of a thinking human. The leftist notion of child abuse being admirable is an inversion of reality. Child abuse by the left now includes various forms of poisoning with hormones and puberty blocking drugs and includes mutilating surgeries to make a child appear to resemble a gender not their own,

Right... if someone told me they saw a man in a dress and she read a story and this was a traumatic experience, I'd laugh in their face.

 

[Hollie]

Right... if someone told me they saw a man in a dress and she read a story and this was a traumatic experience, I'd laugh in their face.

When the man In a dress is a convicted child molester reading sexually explicit stories to children, well, keep laughing.

You're obviously easily amused.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Except you never refute anything I say. Some of your attempts, like Joseph Smith wasn't really fucking those little girls, are laughable at best.

Not my responsibility to refute your absurd lies. You know you're lying, I know you're lying, everyone knows you're lying.

again, you are the one who wants to murder people for practicing birth control you don't approve of or having politics you don't like.
That's morally and mentally fucked up.

What is morally and mentality fucked up is your staunch support for the savage murder of the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, thousands of them every day; and that you condemn me for wanting murderers to be brought to proper justice, construing that as a desire to “…murder people for practicing birth control you don't approve of or having politics you don't like.” Truly an Orwellian “War is peace!” inversion.

That's just a fine point on your broader position of always taking the side of evil, always taking the side of madness, always taking the side of criminals and perverts, and then condemning actual human beings who oppose any of this shit.

 

[JoeB131]

Who said the parents were transphobic? Did they try to use religion on her to make her change her mind? I didn’t see that mentioned.

They might be, which is why in SOME cases, legal guardians might need to be appointed.

Ahh, so in a single year, we had a 100% better chance to detect it, so there was a 100% chance jump in self diagnosis.

Again, I want to know the age range, and that’s important because if a lot of them skew toward the younger ages, like in the 6-10 year old range, then one would have to question if they are being mis diagnosed. Are teachers reporting them as gender dysphoric? We’ve certainly seen stories as of late where teachers are going behind the parents backs, calling their students by other pronouns and by other names as well, allowing children to dress up in opposite sex clothing etc.

Maybe you should mind your own business. that would also be a big help.

Plus, you have all kinds of influence via YouTube and TikTok (such as the kind of influence Chloe cole said she watched).

I bet you think the Tide Pod Challenge was a thing that really happened, too.

Chloe Brockman is a endless black hole of emotional need, sadly the Christian Right will feed that until she is no longer useful for them.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m sure as times change, people are more comfortable expressing their true sexuality and that would lead to an increase, but that also doesn’t explain such a dramatic jump in a single year, when you factor in that young kids may be being misdiagnosed, or, they watched a YouTube video and now suddenly they call themselves trans.

Or eat Tide Pods.

Nobody’s medical records would be released. Just saying there are x number of age 6, x number of age 7…etc…isn’t violating hippa. Like I said, they already have the data that shows ages “6-17” which means they likely already have the numbers of each age in thsg range. Releasing that data doesn’t violate anyone’s medical records.

The people who have those records feel otherwise.

Ok, but what those companies do is not relevant to this topic. If we are saying that a 12 year old has the capacity to make a decision that can change their body, and have psychological effects, then they should be able to make any other adult decision, right?

Completely relevant, because the Tobacco companies did this for YEARS, and when the liberal do-gooders tried to do something about it, they received nothing but opposition from Republicans. I remember in 2008, when Mike Huckabee took Tobacco Settlement Money for his state, Republicans treated this as the greatest betrayal ever. They were truly in mourning for Joe Camel.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

…if someone told me they saw a man in a dress and she read a story…

A man is not a “she”; not even if he's wearing a dress, not even if he's so mentally fucked-up that he thinks he's a she, not even if he's had his body chemcially and surgically mutilated to try to impersonate a she.

 

[JoeB131]

What is morally and mentality fucked up is your staunch support for the savage murder of the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, thousands of them every day; and that you condemn me for wanting murderers to be brought to proper justice, construing that as a desire to “…murder people for practicing birth control you don't approve of or having politics you don't like.” Truly an Orwellian “War is peace!” inversion.

Guy, the very fact that your side is okay with abortion under some circumstances (ones like rape or a threat to the woman's life) tells me you aren't that committed to "Fetuses be people". This is just about putting women in their place.

That's just a fine point on your broader position of always taking the side of evil, always taking the side of madness, always taking the side of criminals and perverts, and then condemning actual human beings who oppose any of this shit.

Um, yeah, guy, your religious crazy isn't moral or sane.

People used to throw people into Volcanos to appease imaginary fairies... and I don't take that seriously, either.

A man is not a “she”; not even if he's wearing a dress, not even if he's so mentally fucked-up that he thinks he's a she, not even if he's had his body chemcially and surgically mutilated to try to impersonate a she.

Why are you so concerned, it has no effect on your life.

The way you guys tell it, there's a whole hoard of Trannies out there, and they are out to get you.

I think I've met one trans person in my entire life, and she wasn't even out at the time I knew her. (I've probably met others, and gave it no more thought than, "Man, that is an ugly woman!")

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Maybe you should mind your own business. that would also be a big help.

Why are you so concerned, it has no effect on your life.

Those who promote evil always want good people to “mind your own business”. Evil thrives when good people do nothing to oppose it.

“What I particularly admire in him is the firm stand he has taken, not only against the oppressors of his countrymen, but also against those opportunists who are always ready to compromise with the Devil. He perceives very clearly that the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.”​

​

—Albert Einstein, speaking of Pablo Casals​

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Guy, the very fact that your side is okay with abortion under some circumstances (ones like rape or a threat to the woman's life) tells me you aren't that committed to "Fetuses be people". This is just about putting women in their place.

I'm never OK with the murder of an innocent child. Never, not under any circumstances.

I recognize it as a necessity, under the most extreme circumstances, when it poses a very real and serious threat to the life of the mother. I'm not OK with that, but I recognize that sometimes, reality isn't capable of being OK.

Never because of rape, though. It take a murderous, sociopathic piece of shit to think that it is in any way acceptable to put an innocent child to death for a crime in which he had no willing part. If you want to put the rapist to death, I'm all for that. But never an innocent child.

 

[JoeB131]

Those who promote evil always want good people to “mind your own business”. Evil thrives when good people do nothing to oppose it.

“What I particularly admire in him is the firm stand he has taken, not only against the oppressors of his countrymen, but also against those opportunists who are always ready to compromise with the Devil. He perceives very clearly that the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.”

Uh, guy, there is no devil.

There are just differences in opinion.

Your hangup about other people's sex lives are weird, but if everyone involved is a consenting adult, I just don't see a problem.

And teaching kids to not be bigots is a benefit. It'll save them from being dragged down to HR in 20 years.

I'm never OK with the murder of an innocent child. Never, not under any circumstances.

I recognize it as a necessity, under the most extreme circumstances, when it poses a very real and serious threat to the life of the mother. I'm not OK with that, but I recognize that sometimes, reality isn't capable of being OK.

Yet your side is out there making

Never because of rape, though. It take a murderous, sociopathic piece of shit to think that it is in any way acceptable to put an innocent child to death for a crime in which he had no willing part. If you want to put the rapist to death, I'm all for that. But never an innocent child.

Other people on your side are willing to make rape exceptions.
Frankly, only a complete fucking sociopath would force a woman to have her rapists' baby.

 

[HeyNorm]

Except you never refute anything I say. Some of your attempts, like Joseph Smith wasn't really fucking those little girls, are laughable at best.



Um, yeah, if your cult was on the up and up, they wouldn't have paid Hoffman millions of dollars for all the fake documents he produced like the Salamander Letter. The Tanners had their doubts about it's authenticity, but your cult leaders paid him to try to hide it.

Salamander letter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

again, you are the one who wants to murder people for practicing birth control you don't approve of or having politics you don't like.

That's morally and mentally fucked up.


Natural Selection doesn't really apply to humans... at least not at this point, where we do our best to preserve everyone.
If it did, white people would eventually be on the way out.

The reality is, just like your side was on the wrong side of history on Civil Rights, Women's liberation and gay marriage, you are on the wrong side of history on this one.

We were on the wrong side of womens liberation? We are the ones fighting for their right for equality in athletics.

Are you crazy?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Frankly, only a complete fucking sociopath would force a woman to have her rapists' baby.

When the only alternative is to murder that baby?

Only a fucking sociopath could defend murdering an innocent child for such a reason.