Latest Ukrainian Peace Plan From the US...Ukraine Surrenders, NATO Cannot Expand; Russia Gives Up Nothing.

[Zavulon]

Right.

Nazis are just like Commies.

Thanks.

All human beings are more or less like each other. From the Russian point of view, for example, there is no any significant difference between American Democracy and German Nazism, either. Both are products of "Protestant ethic".

 

[AntonToo]

Yo forget to thank your incapacitated hero, ole’ Stumblebum who invited his buddy Putin to invade with a minor incursion allowance.

Biden never invited Putin to invade, that is a ridiculous, stupid lie.

While Putin was amasing forces on Ukraine's border you rightwingers were bitching that Biden was "warmongering" because he was warning the world that Putin is likely to invade, was warning Putin of consequences, and was lining up international response.

What was Trump doing when Putin invading? Calling it "smart".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Biden never invited Putin to invade, that is a ridiculous, stupid lie.

While Putin was amasing forces on Ukraine's border you rightwingers were bitching that Biden was "warmongering" because he was warning the world that Putin is likely to invade, was warning Putin of consequences, and was lining up international response.

What was Trump doing when Putin invading? Calling it "smart".

Biden didn't say "It depends on if it's a major incursion"?

What was Trump doing when Putin invading? Calling it "smart".

Trump didn't call the invasion "smart".

 

[Nostra]

In other words, a nice pause for Russia to regroup and prepare to take the whole of Ukraine.

Who didn't see this coming? Except everyone who has watched Trump for 10 years.

WTF have they been trying to do the last few years, moron?

Holy shit you are stupid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

All human beings are more or less like each other. From the Russian point of view, for example, there is no any significant difference between American Democracy and German Nazism, either. Both are products of "Protestant ethic".

I agree, there are no major differences between Nazis and Commies.

 

[Nostra]

Biden never invited Putin to invade, that is a ridiculous, stupid lie.

 

[Zavulon]

I agree, there are no major differences between Nazis and Commies.

And there is no difference between Nazies and Democrats at all.

 

[Ringo]

 

[kyzr]

Of course we can win a nuclear war. Watch, for example, A house of dynamite (2025). Russia starts and wins.

Not sure how you define "wins".
If the president authorized a nuclear response no one wins.
If he decides against retaliation, then Chicago loses.

If Ukraine attacks Russia, or Russian population (and Ukraine will do exactly it), Russia will attack both Ukraine and the USA. So, don't give any guarantees.

Ukraine has borders for a reason. Ukraine won't attack Russia, and Russia needs to respect Ukraine's borders.

Plain lie. The USA always try to attack first.

Plain lie. How do you "try" to attack?

There are a lot of Nazies in Ukraine, and it will be Russians, who decide who are nazies, and who are not. NATO-like guarantees are, in fact, NATO membership, and, therefore, unacceptable.

What happens inside Ukraine's borders is none of Russia's business.
Calling them Nazis only makes Russia look idiotic.

It's not about being desperate. It's about fighting and winning.

No one wins a nuclear war.

They didn't want to f#ck up before Putin.

Good idea, but the robot sucks.

And the USA is far backward in this race.

Drones are a big factor in modern war fighting. The US leads in anti-drone technology.

Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore. If The Telegraph isn't lying, the EU said not just "No!", but open and loud "F#ck you, American bastards with your peace deal!" Now, America has a simple choice - allow Europeans commit suicide by themselves or commit this suicide together.

If the EU wants to carry the ball against Putin, be our guest, best of luck.

 

[Zavulon]

Not sure how you define "wins".

"Enemies are dead, we are not" in the case of large-scale war. In the case of a local war, "victor is one, who wrote the text of peace treaty."

If the president authorized a nuclear response no one wins.

No. If he authorized (as in the movie) counter-force strike against Russian silos, command centers and military bases with already compromised C3I system, he'll kill thousands of Russians, may be (but unlikely) few million, but the USA will be totally destroyed by the third Russian strike.

If he decides against retaliation, then Chicago loses.

Only Chicago? Man, however incompetent STRATCOM is, in this movie, even he realised that it is just an intial phase of a sophisticated, coordinated attack. In the best (for the USA) scenario American people are going to ask POTUS about what the f#ck just happened and Russian and Chinese agents do everything to start a civil war in the USA, ir at least, prevent US involvement in European business.
In more realistic scenario Russia and China see American preparations to retaliation as preparation for preempive strike and attack US forces first.

Ukraine has borders for a reason. Ukraine won't attack Russia, and Russia needs to respect Ukraine's borders.

F#ck the borders.

Plain lie. How do you "try" to attack?

You make preparations to attack first. But some times enemy preempt you.

What happens inside Ukraine's borders is none of Russia's business.

No. What happens with Russian people or in the Eurasia is a lot of our business. And it is definitely not your business.

Calling them Nazis only makes Russia look idiotic.

We can live with it.

No one wins a nuclear war.

We can win it.

Drones are a big factor in modern war fighting. The US leads in anti-drone technology.

Really? Ok. We'll see it in Venezuela.

If the EU wants to carry the ball against Putin, be our guest, best of luck.

Ok. We'll see, how neutral you can be after Russian nuclear attacks against French nuclear bases.

 

[rightwinger]

Biden never invited Putin to invade, that is a ridiculous, stupid lie.

While Putin was amasing forces on Ukraine's border you rightwingers were bitching that Biden was "warmongering" because he was warning the world that Putin is likely to invade, was warning Putin of consequences, and was lining up international response.

What was Trump doing when Putin invading? Calling it "smart".

Trump cheered Putin’s invasion and mocked NATOs resistance

 

[Nostra]

Trump cheered Putin’s invasion and mocked NATOs resistance

Will someone please throw this troll a bone?

 

[Hafar1014]

Yo forget to thank your incapacitated hero, ole’ Stumblebum who invited his buddy Putin to invade with a minor incursion allowance.

Its bad plan and wont fly

 

[Ringo]

 

[rightwinger]

Will someone please throw this troll a bone?

Do you have nothing of value to add to this thread?
You really can’t respond to what I post can you ?

 

[Kondor3]

With respect to Ukraine...

Trump is channeling the Ghost of Neville Chamberlain at Munich in 1938...

 

[Ringo]

The American "peace process" isn’t about ending the war. It's about letting Kiev save face, stopping Russian breakthroughs, giving the Ukrainian army time to rearm and regroup and ideally seizing a few bridgeheads during the "ceasefire" before launching another "counteroffensive"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What's Russian GDP per capita again? DURR

 

[gipper]

Why don't you look AT PUTINS earlier invasions, He had a few smaller places to invade first.

So, since the US has invaded far more countries than Russia and none of them on it’s borders as Russia has done, do you condemn it and believe it wants world domination?

Think!

 

[22lcidw]

With respect to Ukraine...

Trump is channeling the Ghost of Neville Chamberlain at Munich in 1938...

You pay for it. We are tired of it.