Latest Ukrainian Peace Plan From the US...Ukraine Surrenders, NATO Cannot Expand; Russia Gives Up Nothing.

[JanetTheGreat]

The leftist Ukie supporters care nothing for Ukraine.

They only want an excuse to vilify Trump.

Exactly. Everything they have is all about Trump. Without Trump they have nothing. They only say "Nazi" and "Fascist" every 5 seconds whenever they see something they don't like. They are incapable of a shred of a rational thought. They themselves are war mongers, but they don't want to send themselves to the fronts.

 

[Kondor3]

Or you could say Russia has a right to a stable western flank around Moscow...

Their stable flank should extend no further than their own borderline.

Same with the US... anything to the south or north of us is of concern to us but we have no right to war with them over stability.

...stable enough to see Kaliningrad permanently secured...

Kaliningrad... you mean Koningsburg... the city that Russia stole from Prussian-Germany after the end of WW2?

...as well as Crimea and the Ukranian lands Russia has recently conquered...

Russia helped to try, convict and hang Nazi criminals in Nuremburg in 1946 for starting a War of Conquest...

Then again, the Russians are treacherous, immoral, lying, self-serving, hypocritical pieces of $hit who actually think that way.

(in what I believe to be a pre-emptive strike to derail NATO and EU aggressive territorial expansion into eastern europe).

Da... you tell 'em, Tvaritch...

...let's see what happens AFTER Moscow gets a good bufferzone (part of Lithuania in addition to Crimea etc). see if they become reasonable in their foreign policy. we can always take those lands back and place 'm under article 5 protection if Moscow does really play the USSR card again with it's 'Russian Federation'.

Boys and Girls... we have a genuine pro-Russian fifth-columnist troll here... probably operating from KGB headquarters, or his mother's basement in St. Petersburg...

 

[Zavulon]

Ignoramus, the difference is Nazis were imperialist land grabbers and genocidal racists ruled by a charismatic dictator while Democrats are...wait for it...democrats.

Are absolutely same guys with the absolute same Protestant ethic, and absolutely same genocidal racists and land (and sea) -grabbers.

Today who is most closely resembling them?

Europeans. Specifically Germans.

Who are imperialist invaders ruled by a charismatic dictator in the modern world? Rushists and their Dear Leader Putin thats who.

NATO expansion is just another, typical Drung nach Osten, lead with absolutely same people with absolutely same genocidal ideology and who officially declared genocide of Russian people their main goal.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So now we know Russia wrote the "peace" plan.

Here is my shocked face:

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No it didn't silly. No American president did ENOUGH on Russia and certainly Obama didn't either.

Though in that pack there is one degenerate Putin lapdog that really stands out.

Today, after cutting off all American defense funding to Ukraine, "deal artist" is saying they need to reduce their army and hand over their cities to Russia.

Putin wanted Trump to tell NATO to spend more on their own defense?
Putin wanted Trump to tell the EU to stop buying Russian energy?
Putin wanted Trump to stop the Nord Stream 2 pipeline?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well, to be fair, Trump actually enabled the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which went from 0 to 90% complete, during his term.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, to be fair, Trump actually enabled the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which went from 0 to 90% complete, during his term.

And then he stopped it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And then he stopped it.

No he didn't. In fact, the only real effective sanctions were forced by Congress.

And naturally, the fat rapist tried to blame his successor for his own failure to stop the pipeline.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And now he 15000% backs a peace plan written entirely by russia.

Not that he has any idea what is in it. Apparently, he is not even in the loop. He sends Jared, the incompetent, unqualified, self dealing diplomat.

 

[AntonToo]

Putin wanted Trump to tell NATO to spend more on their own defense?
Putin wanted Trump to tell the EU to stop buying Russian energy?
Putin wanted Trump to stop the Nord Stream 2 pipeline?

Ooooh and you think that somehow excuses Trump undermining Ukraine for the past year?

Somehow excuses him stoping all millitary aid to Ukraine, somehow excuses him now insisting that Ukraine has to give up cities under it's control and cut it's defenses without any real security guarantees?

 

[Zavulon]

Ooooh and you think that somehow excuses Trump undermining Ukraine for the past year?

Somehow excuses him stoping all Ukraine aid, somehow excuses him now insisting that Ukraine has to give up cities under it's control and cut it's defenses without any real security guarantees?

He doesn't need excuses. They are his n#ggers. He pay them when he wants, he kill them when he wants. Ever heard about Southern Vietnam?

 

[AntonToo]

He doesn't need excuses. They are his n#ggers. He pay them when he wants, he kill them when he wants. Ever heard about Southern Vietnam?

I'm sure you imagine yourself as posting sane comments while everyone on here is laughing at your crazy, counter-factual, mentally underdeveloped nonsense.

 

[Zavulon]

The funniest part in this is that you are imagining yourself saying sane things while everyone on here is laughing at your crazy, mentally underdeveloped nonsense.

I love when people laugh. It's a nice and positive emotion even if some people don't agree with me. And when you are parroting this nonsense - people (mostly Ukrainians) are dying.

 

[Robert W]

I love when people laugh. It's a nice and positive emotion even if some people don't agree with me. And when you are parroting this nonsense - people (mostly Ukrainians) are dying.

 

[Zavulon]

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Hey, Ukraine can tell whatever they want. In fact, the number of killed in action is hardly more than a number of killed in traffic accidents. It's not that can be ignored, of course, but there is nothing especially dramatic.

 

[Robert W]

Hey, Ukraine can tell whatever they want. In fact, the number of killed in action is hardly more than a number of killed in traffic accidents. It's not that can be ignored, of course, but there is nothing especially dramatic.

Glad to see you pleased Russians died fighting over Ukraine.

 

[Zavulon]

Glad to see you pleased Russians died fighting over Ukraine.

It is much better than see Russians died in nuked Russian cities.

 

[Robert W]

It is much better than see Russians died in nuked Russian cities.

Europe has that issue under it's control.

 

[Hollie]

Ooooh and you think that somehow excuses Trump undermining Ukraine for the past year?

Somehow excuses him stoping all millitary aid to Ukraine, somehow excuses him now insisting that Ukraine has to give up cities under its control and cut its defenses without any real security guarantees?

Ohhhhh, and you think the US taxpayers should be financing Ukie crooks and thieves.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/11/17/a-huge-corruption-scandal-threatens-ukraines-government

 

[AntonToo]

Ohhhhh, and you think the US taxpayers should be financing Ukie crooks and thieves.

"senior officials allegedly stole millions from Energoatom, Ukranian nuclear company"

You know which part of American millitary aid went to Energoatom? No part.

You know which part of millitary aid that is spent in America, paying American companies to deliver heavy weapons to Ukraine was even possible to somehow steal? No part of course.

When are you going to start using your head?