Lantern Lighting at Green Lake in Seattle To Commemorate The U.S. Bombing of Hiroshima

[Godboy]

You fail to comprehend Japan’s position because of FDR’s stupid unconditional surrender requirement. It only prolonged the war resulting in more dead Americans and Japanese.

It’s a common mistake Americans make.

They deserved nothing more than unconditional surrender. You cant do what Japan did and expect to have your own conditions when you lose.

 

[gipper]

They deserved nothing more than unconditional surrender. You cant do what Japan did and expect to have your own conditions when you lose.

lol. Spoken like a true dumb warmonger.

 

[August West]

lol. Spoken like a true dumb warmonger.

Those are the ones who cheer from the sidelines but don`t actually want to participate.

 

[westwall]

Iran will use a nuke because they want to die? Maybe if they had one The U.S. and Israel would stop threatening them. We have them surrounded by 30 military bases.

Yeah, suicide bombers love to die. That's how they get to Paradise and their 72 virgins.

Are you really that clueless?

 

[gipper]

Those are the ones who cheer from the sidelines but don`t actually want to participate.

Maybe they think total war is like a board game.

 

[Godboy]

lol. Spoken like a true dumb warmonger.

Oh, just shut the fuck up douchebag. You arent an enlightened individual. Youre just a complainy fuck who doesnt know shit about history or anything about the hard decisions required to save lives. Yes, nuking Japan saved lives. Millions of lives, so suck my dick and fuck off.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

 

[gipper]

Oh, just shut the fuck up douchebag. You arent an enlightened individual. Youre just a complainy fuck who doesnt know shit about history or anything about the hard decisions required to save lives. Yes, nuking Japan saved lives. Millions of lives, so suck my dick and fuck off.

Lol. Stop whining pussy and get informed.

 

[MinTrut]

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Sungboddy just got pwned; well played.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Sungboddy just got pwned; well played.

I grew up there, my dad worked for Halliburton.

We left about 6 months before the Shah.

 

[MinTrut]

I grew up there, my dad worked for Halliburton.

We left about 6 months before the Shah.

One dreams of such internet moments as this.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

One dreams of such internet moments as this.

You will notice he has not had the balls to come back to the thread.

 

[gipper]

You will notice he has not had the balls to come back to the thread.

His balls shriveled up and fell off long ago.

 

[Open Bolt]

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Today is the 77th anniversary of the dropping of the first atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima, Japan by the United States effectively bringing to an end World War II. A second bomb however was dropped on Nagasaki 3 days thereafter. Japan subsequently surrendered on August 15th 1945.
An event commemorating this grave anniversary was held today at Green Lake in Seattle.

“FROM HIROSHIMA TO HOPE” ANNUAL LANTERN FLOATING PEACE CEREMONY @ GREEN LAKE ​

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Saturday, August 6, 2022 | 6 - 9 PM PDT | FREE, DONATIONS WELCOME​

Candle-lit lanterns will bring messages of peace and hope in this annual event that honors victims of the 1945 atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and all victims of violence. Lanterns will be provided and personalized with calligraphy by members of the Beikuku Shodo Kenkyu Kai (Japanese) and the Gurudwara Singh Sabha of Washington and Khalsa Gurmat School (Gurmukhi). The event will take place just south of the Seattle Public Theater (aka Bathhouse Theater), on Green Lake’s NW shore, at West Green Lake Drive North and Stone Ave North.​

2022 “FROM HIROSHIMA TO HOPE” ANNUAL LANTERN FLOATING PEACE CEREMONY @ GREEN LAKE — Wing Luke Museum​

Meh.

I'm much more concerned about the victims of Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March.

 

[Open Bolt]

Admirals Nimitz and Leahy, along with General Eisenhower were in agreement that Japan would surrender before November and there was no reason to drop a nuke.

Funny how none of them said that when Truman was around to hear it.

Invasion for what?

To make Japan surrender.

They no longer had a military that was a threat to anybody.

Their military would have been a serious threat to our invading troops.

We`ve all seen the news clip of Japanese committing suicide rather than surrender but that was years before we began bombing the hell out of Japan.

Japan was still refusing to surrender when we dropped the atomic bombs on them.

 

[Open Bolt]

And yet somehow we think we have the god given right to tell other nations they are not allowed to have such weapons when we are the only nation to ever use one.

Of course. Much like the police think that they have the right to tell bank robbers that they can't carry guns.

Yes it did stop a war that was essentially over, this much is true.

Except it wasn't essentially over. Japan was still refusing to surrender.

Yet we to this day remain the only nation to ever use them and we think we have the moral authority to tell other countries they cannot have them.

We are correct to think this.

I think it is none of our fucking business and that we are the last country that should ever tell anyone they cannot have nukes.

You are wrong. We have every right to prevent rogue nations from acquiring illegal weapons.

 

[Open Bolt]

The problem is they weren’t trying to surrender. They were trying to get terms. That’s not surrender, that’s negotiation. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were our response to those negotiations.

Actually Japan was not even trying to negotiate. They were refusing to talk to us at all.

Japan only tried to negotiate with us after we dropped the atomic bombs.

 

[Open Bolt]

Yeah America is so great when it massacres defenseless women and children of a nation trying to surrender. We are so proud!

The atomic bombs were dropped on military targets.

Japan made no surrender offers until after both atomic bombs has already been dropped.

You’re uninformed like most Americans. Japan had been trying to surrender for months.

Fake news. Never happened.

Japan didn't attempt to surrender until after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

You do know Truman agreed to keep the emperor, which was the only thing Japan asked for, but after he murdered all those defenseless women and children with the two bombs.

Japan only made this request after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

And no. What Japan asked was that Hirohito be guaranteed unlimited dictatorial power as Japan's living deity. Truman refused and told them that Hirohito would be subordinate to MacArthur.

Damn aren’t you a blood thirsty mass murderer of women and babies.

The atomic bombs were dropped on military targets. Not murder in any way.

Propaganda designed to cover up Truman’s war crime.

No such war crime.

Historical facts are not propaganda.

Did you ever ask yourself, why do we need to invade?

I already know why. It's because Japan was refusing to surrender.

They tried to surrender numerous times,

Japan only started trying to surrender after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

but unconditional surrender

We backed off from unconditional surrender when we issued the Potsdam Proclamation, which was a list of surrender terms.

allows blood thirsty Americans like you to think mass murdering defenseless women and children is admirable.

Wartime strikes against military targets are not murder.

You aren’t thinking. Japan was trying to surrender

Japan did not offer to surrender until both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

and was essentially defenseless.

Japan had millions of soldiers and ten thousand kamikazes waiting to pounce on our invasion.

Why drop those two bombs, unless you’re a racist fool trying to impress the Soviets?

To make Japan surrender.

Plus an invasion was entirely unnecessary, but statist imperialist dupes can’t comprehend this. Japan by summer 1945 was no threat to anyone. They were a starving defenseless nation.

That is incorrect. Japan was still refusing to surrender, so it was still necessary to invade them.

No. Prior to the first bomb drop, they asked Dirty Harry only one thing. Leave the emperor alone. He said…”fuck off and die.” Then after killing all those women and babies in cold blood with the two bombs, he said “okay.”

That is incorrect. Japan only asked that after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

And even then, what Japan asked was that Hirohito retain unlimited dictatorial power. Truman refused, and told them that Hirohito was going to be be subordinate to MacArthur.

Read the great Ralph Raico. He is likely the first true historian you have ever read. Can you open your mind to the truth?
The War Criminal Harry Truman - LewRockwell
By early summer 1945, the Japanese fully realized that they were beaten. Why did they nonetheless fight on? As Anscombe wrote: "It was the insistence on unconditional surrender that was the root of all evil."101
That mad formula was coined by Roosevelt at the Casablanca conference, and, with Churchill’s enthusiastic concurrence, it became the Allied shibboleth. After prolonging the war in Europe, it did its work in the Pacific. At the Potsdam conference, in July 1945, Truman issued a proclamation to the Japanese, threatening them with the "utter devastation" of their homeland unless they surrendered unconditionally.

That is incorrect. At the Potsdam conference, Truman backed off from unconditional surrender and issued a list of surrender terms.

Among the Allied terms, to which "there are no alternatives," was that there be "eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world conquest [sic]." "Stern justice," the proclamation warned, "would be meted out to all war criminals."102

"Among the allied terms...."

As I said, Truman backed off from unconditional surrender and issued a list of surrender terms.

To the Japanese, this meant that the emperor – regarded by them to be divine, the direct descendent of the goddess of the sun – would certainly be dethroned and probably put on trial as a war criminal and hanged, perhaps in front of his palace.103It was not, in fact, the U.S. intention to dethrone or punish the emperor. But this implicit modification of unconditional surrender was never communicated to the Japanese. In the end, after Nagasaki, Washington acceded to the Japanese desire to keep the dynasty and even to retain Hirohito as emperor.

Japan was free at any time to try to talk to us about their concerns over the Emperor's status.

Indeed, after both atomic bombs were dropped on them, they even asked us if we would allow Hirohito to retain unlimited dictatorial power.

You fail to comprehend Japan’s position because of FDR’s stupid unconditional surrender requirement. It only prolonged the war resulting in more dead Americans and Japanese.

Truman backed off from unconditional surrender when he issued the Potsdam Proclamation on July 26, 1945.

Since Japan was not willing to contemplate surrender until August 10, 1945, the earlier policy of unconditional surrender did not prolong the war any.

 

[Open Bolt]

Japan was defeated.

Funny how Japan kept refusing to surrender or even talk to us.

It had no defense from air attacks that occurred in daylight every day and it's navy no longer existed as a viable force. The Bushido holdouts were desperately trying to negotiate reasonable surrender terms that included not executing the Emperor but the only president not to have graduated from college and president for about four months didn't have a freaking clue. The eggheads were dying to use their device and Truman gave the O.K.

Fake news. Never happened.

Japan only started trying to negotiate with us after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

And what they asked for then was that Hirohito retain unlimited dictatorial power as Japan's living deity. Needless to say we refused and told them that Hirohito was going to be subordinate to MacArthur.

 

[Open Bolt]

One of the most horrendous crimes against humanity, if not THE most horrendous, were those two bombings.

That is incorrect. Crimes against humanity are acts against civilian populations.

An example of a crime against humanity would be the World Trade Center attack on 9/11.

The atomic bombs were dropped on military targets.

Irrelevant; Japan was on its knees and begging to surrender.

That is incorrect. Japan did not offer to surrender until after both atomic bombs had already been dropped.

We needed to show our USSR allies that we had the bombs,

That is incorrect. We needed to make Japan surrender.

and thought nothing about using them in the two most horrendous acts of terror in human history.

That is incorrect. Acts of terror target civilians.

The atomic bombs were dropped on military targets.

We're supporting a war Russia was drawn into by the US, and which was intended to bog it down.

Russia drew themselves into that war, and it is entirely proper that Russia now is bogged down and being massacred there.

Our involvement is causing untold suffering in Ukraine,

Only for invading Russians who deserve every bit of it.

as was our creating the circumstances which caused Putin to invade.

We are not responsible for Russian aggression.