Zone1 Kristan Hawkins Crushes Arguments Of Pro-Choicer

[otto105]

Well really a zygote left alone, without a host, will die, but I take your point. My point is that it is not important what the zygote IS but what it WILL BECOME. Once it does develops into a baby, then it has a right to life. Until then you'd need laboratory equipment to tell the difference between it and that tumor cell.

That choice is the girl/woman’s not a politician.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Well really a zygote left alone, without a host, will die, but I take your point. My point is that it is not important what the zygote IS but what it WILL BECOME. Once it does develops into a baby, then it has a right to life. Until then you'd need laboratory equipment to tell the difference between it and that tumor cell.

What is a “baby”? Post birth?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

That choice is the girl/woman’s not a politician.

So human life is not defined, but subjective based on the desires of the woman?

Definitions matter, and appear to be kryptonite to the left

 

[otto105]

So human life is not defined, but subjective based on the desires of the woman?

Definitions matter, and appear to be kryptonite to the left

Still the girl/woman's decision, not a politician.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Still the girl/woman's decision, not a politician.

No decision to be had, though it should be beyond politics and politicians, of course, as the human right to life should be protected in every state beyond the concerns of mob rule democracy.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Still the girl/woman's decision, not a politician.

What if a woman decides you’re not alive… can she kill you?

 

[otto105]

What if a woman decides you’re not alive… can she kill you?

Am I a zygote in HER body?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Am I a zygote in HER body?

You said if the woman decides, so it should be. It’s irrational logic, and you’re now seeing that, and shifting the goal posts.

Can we agree that a woman doesn’t get to decide what is alive and what isn’t?

 

[otto105]

You said if the woman decides, so it should be. It’s irrational logic, and you’re now seeing that, and shifting the goal posts.

You're the one making stupid analogies up.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Am I a zygote in HER body?

How the fuck does she even know about her kid if her kid is still a single cell and pregnancy hasn’t even started? Do you know how short the zygote stage of life even is? Rhetorical question, of course you don’t.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You're the one making stupid analogies up.

I see… you shifted the goal posts, I called you on it, now you’re frustrated and lashing out instead of clarifying your point.

Can we agree that a woman doesn’t get to decide what is alive and what isn’t?

 

[otto105]

I see… you shifted the goal posts, I called you on it, now you’re frustrated and lashing out instead of clarifying your point.

Can we agree that a woman doesn’t get to decide what is alive and what isn’t?

Comparing a zygote to a born person is apples and oranges nonsense.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Comparing a zygote to a born person is apples and oranges nonsense.

The question is, Should women get to decide what is alive and what deserves human rights protection?

Or, should there a defined standard?

Just finally answer the question, A or B
A. Women decide what is alive based on how they feel.
B. A persons human rights should be based on an objective standard.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Comparing a zygote to a born person is apples and oranges nonsense.

Comparing a younger apple to an older apple is not “apples and oranges.”

This should be obvious to anyone, and the nonsense is all yours.

 

[otto105]

The question is, Should women get to decide what is alive and what deserves human rights protection?

Or, should there a defined standard?

Just finally answer the question, A or B
A. Women decide what is alive based on how they feel.
B. A persons human rights should be based on an objective standard.

A girl/woman has right to decide to birth a child or not.

You're not in the room.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

A girl/woman has right to decide to birth a child or not.

There is no such right, there never was, snd there never could be.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A girl/woman has right to decide to birth a child or not.

You're not in the room.

Wow, so you think women, based solely on their sex, get to dictate which pre born lives are protected and which are not.

That’s like the power of a tyrant King. What did they do to earn such astronomical power in your eyes? Are they demigods to you?

 

[alang1216]

What is a “baby”? Post birth?

It is our brains that make humans unique and valuable. Until there is a functioning brain it is not, IMHO, a baby. I'm happy to say the line is arbitrary, all I can say for certain is that line is somewhere between the zygote and 9 months. Maybe after the first trimester?

 

[otto105]

Wow, so you think women, based solely on their sex, get to dictate which pre born lives are protected and which are not.

That’s like the power of a tyrant King. What did they do to earn such astronomical power in your eyes? Are they demigods to you?

She gets to make decisions about her body and family.

YOU don't.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It is our brains that make humans unique and valuable. Until there is a functioning brain it is not, IMHO, a baby. I'm happy to say the line is arbitrary, all I can say for certain is that line is somewhere between the zygote and 9 months. Maybe after the first trimester?

That’s like a cop saying, as he writes you a ticket.. “I guess the speed limit is arbitrary.. somewhere between 35 and 75 mph, I dunno.. but here’s your ticket”

You need an objective standard and reason for it, or there’s no content here. It’s just feelings based opinions from you.