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Ok then.
Focus. Forget about the so called secular world. Stop worrying about what to eat and what to wear. Those things are for the godless to obsess over.
you have enough of work to do on yourself that remains undone to keep you busy for the rest of your life...
Stop wasting time.
Exactly why I study Torah.
I know that.
But there has to come a time when you put the book down and start doing whatever it is you should have learned to do that leads to a holy life by reading it. And its not about whats for dinner.
Is there really any chance that you haven't read it all before many many times?
Jesus didn't walk around clinging to the torah like a priest clings to crucifix or a baby clings to its bottle, even when he was a lot younger than you.
Wouldn't you prefer for God to make himself known to you before you died, while you still had the time to justify your existence and become worthy of the life you were given?
Purify your mind and be refined, then you will see God and the way to life will be revealed to you. Only God can open your mind to understand and make sense of the chaos you see and all of the confusing information that fills your head.
Its as simple as that.
My friend, I have been learning mostly Torah and Talmud (as opposed to Mishnah and the Prophets) for 35 years and I haven't even scratched the surface.
In terms of practicing what I study...everyday of my life I interact with my family, my customers, people on line at stores, people in other vehicles and myself.
My ego, my emotions, my attitudes and behavior have changed radically over the years.
I do not doubt that, and I commend you for your efforts.
Still, if you want to go all the way and become sinless, sell off everything you have bought into over all those years, come out of that tomb, pick up your own cross, and follow the teachings of Jesus, if you can grasp it..
what are the teachings of Jesus? How does a cross enter into the picture?
Pretty cool...Hey guys! You know the last millennia of keeping the Commandments? Just kidding!Exactly why I study Torah.
I know that.
But there has to come a time when you put the book down and start doing whatever it is you should have learned to do that leads to a holy life by reading it. And its not about whats for dinner.
Is there really any chance that you haven't read it all before many many times?
Jesus didn't walk around clinging to the torah like a priest clings to crucifix or a baby clings to its bottle, even when he was a lot younger than you.
Wouldn't you prefer for God to make himself known to you before you died, while you still had the time to justify your existence and become worthy of the life you were given?
Purify your mind and be refined, then you will see God and the way to life will be revealed to you. Only God can open your mind to understand and make sense of the chaos you see and all of the confusing information that fills your head.
Its as simple as that.
My friend, I have been learning mostly Torah and Talmud (as opposed to Mishnah and the Prophets) for 35 years and I haven't even scratched the surface.
In terms of practicing what I study...everyday of my life I interact with my family, my customers, people on line at stores, people in other vehicles and myself.
My ego, my emotions, my attitudes and behavior have changed radically over the years.
I do not doubt that, and I commend you for your efforts.
Still, if you want to go all the way and become sinless, sell off everything you have bought into over all those years, come out of that tomb, pick up your own cross, and follow the teachings of Jesus, if you can grasp it..
what are the teachings of Jesus? How does a cross enter into the picture?
The basic teaching of Jesus is that the words of the law are figurative, the subjects hidden.
A cross enters the picture whenever a person has the audacity to rise from the dead and escape from whatever tomb they have found themselves in by accident of birth.
Exactly why I study Torah.
I know that.
But there has to come a time when you put the book down and start doing whatever it is you should have learned to do that leads to a holy life by reading it. And its not about whats for dinner.
Is there really any chance that you haven't read it all before many many times?
Jesus didn't walk around clinging to the torah like a priest clings to crucifix or a baby clings to its bottle, even when he was a lot younger than you.
Wouldn't you prefer for God to make himself known to you before you died, while you still had the time to justify your existence and become worthy of the life you were given?
Purify your mind and be refined, then you will see God and the way to life will be revealed to you. Only God can open your mind to understand and make sense of the chaos you see and all of the confusing information that fills your head.
Its as simple as that.
My friend, I have been learning mostly Torah and Talmud (as opposed to Mishnah and the Prophets) for 35 years and I haven't even scratched the surface.
In terms of practicing what I study...everyday of my life I interact with my family, my customers, people on line at stores, people in other vehicles and myself.
My ego, my emotions, my attitudes and behavior have changed radically over the years.
I do not doubt that, and I commend you for your efforts.
Still, if you want to go all the way and become sinless, sell off everything you have bought into over all those years, come out of that tomb, pick up your own cross, and follow the teachings of Jesus, if you can grasp it..
what are the teachings of Jesus? How does a cross enter into the picture?
The basic teaching of Jesus is that the words of the law are figurative, the subjects hidden.
A cross enters the picture whenever a person has the audacity to rise from the dead and escape from whatever tomb they have found themselves in by accident of birth.
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open... It is only those that wish to cover and confuse these simple truths that say it is hidden... They twist the scriptures, they place their idol Jesus anywhere and everywhere it suits them and they come up with nonsensical circular arguments that lead nowhere and cover the ground with their bullshit...The cross is a symbol of death and any who hold onto it will get just that death....
Oh that is clever Irosie... My take would be it would be misunderstood as well again because in order for the Holy Ghost to do that Caspar the friendly ghost would have had to put a sheet on it to be seen like the Orthodox Jews are supposedly suppose to do....lol... Too funny...Course those customs are peculiar to ones who do not understand them to say the least...
Oh that is clever Irosie... My take would be it would be misunderstood as well again because in order for the Holy Ghost to do that Caspar the friendly ghost would have had to put a sheet on it to be seen like the Orthodox Jews are supposedly suppose to do....lol... Too funny...Course those customs are peculiar to ones who do not understand them to say the least...
something I noted in my childhood-----at least in the white bread town in which I grew up------That which jews do seem so STRANGE to Episcopalians and Methodists----that it annoys
them Just the word "kosher" spelled out in Hebrew letters
is something REALLY MYSTERIOUS AND MAGICAL to them-------Cuisine is the issue that bent hobe all out shape---"kosher" rules have him stymied. In fact all cultures have complicated
cuisine rules----that fact does not ANNOY ME. The variations on that which various HINDUS can eat or not eat or when
they can eat---or not eat is a lot more complex than "kosher"---
but it is "second nature"----to the various hindus so afflicted----I KNOW that JAINS do not devote their lives to THINKING about it-----
Well I have my own theory about kosher... I am not trying to push it just an observation... That being that we are supposed to be a " Holy" people with Holy meaning separate or distinct... Since we were dispersed from our land one of the ways to stay Holy or separate was to not being able to gather and eat with others thus if we could not eat their food then we would stay separate and distinct.... It might be one of the reasons we are still around today among others...You make excellent points regarding the Hindus... I am especially impressed by their ability in their madras to feed huge numbers of people and unlike Christianity they do not try to convert you they just pass the food out freely and without thought... True Zedaka... Each group has their own cultural bias is to food it is what makes different cultures unigue as well as how they dress and other things
Well I have my own theory about kosher... I am not trying to push it just an observation... That being that we are supposed to be a " Holy" people with Holy meaning separate or distinct... Since we were dispersed from our land one of the ways to stay Holy or separate was to not being able to gather and eat with others thus if we could not eat their food then we would stay separate and distinct.... It might be one of the reasons we are still around today among others...You make excellent points regarding the Hindus... I am especially impressed by their ability in their madras to feed huge numbers of people and unlike Christianity they do not try to convert you they just pass the food out freely and without thought... True Zedaka... Each group has their own cultural bias is to food it is what makes different cultures unigue as well as how they dress and other things
Nonsense Hobe... The cross represents " death" ... You are supposed to choose " life" not death....
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
If that were true then your 5000 + year history of applying the law according to the instructions in the talmud would not read like the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to the divine commands.
How could that be if dicking around about what or what not to eat for dinner is the way to a holy life and abundant blessings from God in this world?
Maybe it would be wise to consider the possibility that there is deeper hidden meaning in the words used by God in giving the law that are not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, just like Jesus openly proclaimed.
I wil give you treasures of dark vaults, hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name. Isaiah 45:3
You have heard what I said; consider it well, and now you must admit the truth of it. Now I show you new things, hidden things which you did not know before. Isaiah 48:6
Time was when many were aghast at you,my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts. Isaiah 52:14
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
If that were true then your 5000 + year history of applying the law according to the instructions in the talmud would not read like the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to the divine commands.
How could that be if dicking around about what or what not to eat for dinner is the way to a holy life and abundant blessings from God in this world?
Maybe it would be wise to consider the possibility that there is deeper hidden meaning in the words used by God in giving the law that are not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, just like Jesus openly proclaimed.
I wil give you treasures of dark vaults, hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name. Isaiah 45:3
You have heard what I said; consider it well, and now you must admit the truth of it. Now I show you new things, hidden things which you did not know before. Isaiah 48:6
Time was when many were aghast at you,my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts. Isaiah 52:14
So Moshe's warnings to the Children of Israel coming true is proof that the Torah is FALSE?
The warnings have come true because we've been less than what we should be.
That, my friend, is absolute proof that the Torah is true.
Not like the BS TNT where everyone is a SAINT.
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
If that were true then your 5000 + year history of applying the law according to the instructions in the talmud would not read like the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to the divine commands.
How could that be if dicking around about what or what not to eat for dinner is the way to a holy life and abundant blessings from God in this world?
Maybe it would be wise to consider the possibility that there is deeper hidden meaning in the words used by God in giving the law that are not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, just like Jesus openly proclaimed.
I wil give you treasures of dark vaults, hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name. Isaiah 45:3
You have heard what I said; consider it well, and now you must admit the truth of it. Now I show you new things, hidden things which you did not know before. Isaiah 48:6
Time was when many were aghast at you,my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts. Isaiah 52:14
So Moshe's warnings to the Children of Israel coming true is proof that the Torah is FALSE?
The warnings have come true because we've been less than what we should be.
That, my friend, is absolute proof that the Torah is true.
Not like the BS TNT where everyone is a SAINT.
No its not proof that its false, its overwhelming evidence that there has to be a better way to interpret and conform to the law that results in the fulfillment of the promise of life and the actual presence of the living God among us.
All of the maledictions being fulfilled for so many thousands of years is proof that you have not chosen life by conforming to the most superficial and ignorant interpretation of the law possible.
Sheesh.
As if it is too difficult to perceive the deeper implications of the law that prohibits eating the flesh of any unclean creature that does not ruminate.
Whats your problem?
Would refraining from the flesh (teaching) of talking serpents be too hard to do? would it be too inconvenient?
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
If that were true then your 5000 + year history of applying the law according to the instructions in the talmud would not read like the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to the divine commands.
How could that be if dicking around about what or what not to eat for dinner is the way to a holy life and abundant blessings from God in this world?
Maybe it would be wise to consider the possibility that there is deeper hidden meaning in the words used by God in giving the law that are not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, just like Jesus openly proclaimed.
I wil give you treasures of dark vaults, hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name. Isaiah 45:3
You have heard what I said; consider it well, and now you must admit the truth of it. Now I show you new things, hidden things which you did not know before. Isaiah 48:6
Time was when many were aghast at you,my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts. Isaiah 52:14
So Moshe's warnings to the Children of Israel coming true is proof that the Torah is FALSE?
The warnings have come true because we've been less than what we should be.
That, my friend, is absolute proof that the Torah is true.
Not like the BS TNT where everyone is a SAINT.
No its not proof that its false, its overwhelming evidence that there has to be a better way to interpret and conform to the law that results in the fulfillment of the promise of life and the actual presence of the living God among us.
All of the maledictions being fulfilled for so many thousands of years is proof that you have not chosen life by conforming to the most superficial and ignorant interpretation of the law possible.
Sheesh.
As if it is too difficult to perceive the deeper implications of the law that prohibits eating the flesh of any unclean creature that does not ruminate.
Whats your problem?
Would refraining from the flesh (teaching) of talking serpents be too hard to do? would it be too inconvenient?
Sorry, after 1,000 years of torturing and looting, the RCC has ZERO to say on the subject of humanity.
ESPECIALLY, when MOST of the hostility and murder against Jews was WROUGHT by the RCC.
Now you see Irosie everything is opposite the truth in Hobe and the Christian world... We are clearly told that Gd did not speak in riddles or secrets everything is in the open.
If that were true then your 5000 + year history of applying the law according to the instructions in the talmud would not read like the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to the divine commands.
How could that be if dicking around about what or what not to eat for dinner is the way to a holy life and abundant blessings from God in this world?
Maybe it would be wise to consider the possibility that there is deeper hidden meaning in the words used by God in giving the law that are not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, just like Jesus openly proclaimed.
I wil give you treasures of dark vaults, hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name. Isaiah 45:3
You have heard what I said; consider it well, and now you must admit the truth of it. Now I show you new things, hidden things which you did not know before. Isaiah 48:6
Time was when many were aghast at you,my people, and so now many nations recoil at sight of him, and kings curl their lips in disgust. For they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts. Isaiah 52:14
So Moshe's warnings to the Children of Israel coming true is proof that the Torah is FALSE?
The warnings have come true because we've been less than what we should be.
That, my friend, is absolute proof that the Torah is true.
Not like the BS TNT where everyone is a SAINT.
No its not proof that its false, its overwhelming evidence that there has to be a better way to interpret and conform to the law that results in the fulfillment of the promise of life and the actual presence of the living God among us.
All of the maledictions being fulfilled for so many thousands of years is proof that you have not chosen life by conforming to the most superficial and ignorant interpretation of the law possible.
Sheesh.
As if it is too difficult to perceive the deeper implications of the law that prohibits eating the flesh of any unclean creature that does not ruminate.
Whats your problem?
Would refraining from the flesh (teaching) of talking serpents be too hard to do? would it be too inconvenient?
Sorry, after 1,000 years of torturing and looting, the RCC has ZERO to say on the subject of humanity.
ESPECIALLY, when MOST of the hostility and murder against Jews was WROUGHT by the RCC.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I agree.
The Jewish people have always been right to reject out of hand the false sugar coated edible god made man made matzo made by human hands unleashed on he world buy the Roman empire after 325.c.e., and even if Jesus was right, he has never been accurately or clearly represented.
In other words, You are being given another chance at the fulfillment of the promise of life. Don't muck it up.
