"Kilmar Abrego Garcia is alive and secure but is under the sovereign, domestic authority of El Salvador"

[Seymour Flops]

So you deport someone who has committed no crimes here in the US or in El Salvador, to a notorious prison, bypassing due process and denying him the ability to defend himself from these allegations, because at this point that is ALL you have. His only crime is being in the country illegally.

Respectfully, we are going in a circle here. Let me address some points that are new:

Sorry…not aware of this so called large drop in crime because I’m still trying to comprehend why you would send someone who has committed no known crimes to Cecot and how that improves crime rates.

Homicide rate in El Salvador 2024 | Statista

In 2024, there were approximately 1.9 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants in El Salvador.

www.statista.com

The short blue bar compared to the tallest represents an incredible reduction in homocides per 100,000 population. Thousands and thousands of lives not lost.

Ok. Finally. He is not convicted of anything.

Let’s add some more.

Has he been charged with anything (other than a misdeamenor of illegally entering this country)?

Did El Salvador have a warrant out for him? Did they request extradition? Have they charged or convicted him of anything?

He is an illegal alien who should be deported. Should have long since.
He is a verified member of an extrememely violent gang, so we could not in good conscience send him as a free man to another county.
El Salvador, a sovreign nation, is in charge of him now, and the U.S. has no control over their legal processes.

Good.

Now how about FIXING it?

What fix do you recommend? What should happen with this verified gang member?

You don’t know details about his particular crimes because as of now, there are none.

He entered the country illegally which is indeed a crime.

So, I’m guessing that bit of mumbo jumbo means no other countries have refused because no other countries have even been asked. That process never occurred.

Which country would you ask first? How about Canada?

In fact, please state your objection to asking Canada to take him, if any. Should we pressure Canada to take him as we pressure El Salvador to release him?

Well apparently you wish harm on a person who has never been accused, charged or convicted of anything and you don’t think that “error” is significant enough to pressure your president for his return so legal process to be followed.

Not at the cost of American women being raped and murder. I have no idea why you wish that on anyone.

Ah, the old “appeal to emotion fallacy”…I.e. any decent person would blah blah blah.

As is your whole "innocent man in a brutal prison" argument.

This isn’t about sympathy.

It’s about a legal process that should be followed to ensure all rights are respected and that tbe laws administered in a just manner.

The legal process that should have been followed is that he should have been deported as soon as the judge determined that he was a verified gang member. Since that did not happen, the president had to deal with cleaning up the mess.

That so many of the worst criminals have already been deported and this is the only real error that the extremely pro-criminal media and legal community have been able to find speaks highly of the Trump Administration.

Propose any reasonable solution to correct the error, and it it is really reasonable, and doesn't put women (of ANY color or nationality) at risk to be the next Laken Riley, or prison guards at risk of being murdered, and I'll support it.

 

[Marener]

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If the president can get someone on a plane and fly out of US airspace before a judge can issue a written order to stop them, the president can now make anyone disappear.

That’s what you want.

 

[Cellblock2429]

If he's under the soverign, domestic authority of the counry of El Salvador.

Why are US taxpayers paying El Salvador to house him?

If the US prisoners that the US transferred to El Salvador are under their soverign and domestic authority, cancel the $6,000,000 we're paying to house them.

WW

/----/ It's cheaper to imprison them there than here with all of the prison rights we grant. Besides, in El Salvador, they are out of the reach of activist judges.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If he's under the soverign, domestic authority of the counry of El Salvador.

Why are US taxpayers paying El Salvador to house him?

If the US prisoners that the US transferred to El Salvador are under their soverign and domestic authority, cancel the $6,000,000 we're paying to house them.

WW

You have some really weird positions on some issues. Have you sought help for your TDS yet?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He was ordered not to be sent in the first place.

The lawless tRump *administration violated the judges order, and the man's constitutional rights.

CoEQUAL branches

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If El Salvador says "no".

Cancel payments.

WW

We don't want him back. Some rogue judge does! Let him get the money back,

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Neither Judge Boesberg or Judge Xinis are Immigration Judges working for the DOJ.

They are both Article III Judges and do not work for the Executive Branch.\

WW

All the more reason they have no jurisdiction on immigration issues.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The judges order was prior to the planes taking off, it doesn't matter if it was written or verbal.

Try going to court and getting a verbal offer from the Judge and telling the Judge you won't comply until he puts it in writting.

Guarenteed you won't like the results.

WW

The judge should have issued a warrant so that it could be enforced by law enforcement. Once outside US airspace, that is not binging. Have a nice day!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, he was an illegal immigrant.

All the more reason this is much ado about nothing.

 

[WorldWatcher]

You have some really weird positions on some issues. Have you sought help for your TDS yet?

#1 Support and defend the Constititution as we both swore to do.

#2 That the ends don't justify the means. (Which as history has shown us over and over again is a very dark path.)

Weird ideas, I know.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

#1 Support and defend the Constititution as we both swore to do.

#2 That the ends don't justify the means. (Which as history has shown us over and over again is a very dark path.)

Weird ideas, I know.

WW

I am following the law. You are not, but your TDS prevents you from realizing it. You have Orange Man Bad on the brain.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

#1 Support and defend the Constititution as we both swore to do.

#2 That the ends don't justify the means. (Which as history has shown us over and over again is a very dark path.)

Weird ideas, I know.

WW

That's your interpretation of the Constitution.
We aren't going to let our enemies use our Constitution for our own destruction

 

[Seymour Flops]

/----/ It's cheaper to imprison them there than here with all of the prison rights we grant. Besides, in El Salvador, they are out of the reach of activist judges.

That is the so-far not much talked about problem with bringing someone like Abrego Garcia to the United States for some kind of "do-over."

The SCOTUS just ruled that Judge Biasberg, in DC, shouldn't have even been involved in a Texas case. Yet look how much trouble he caused. Any judge with an axe to grind, found by some activist funded lawyer will rule anyway he or she is told to rule.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Neither Judge Boesberg or Judge Xinis are Immigration Judges working for the DOJ.

They are both Article III Judges and do not work for the Executive Branch.\

WW

But you think the Executive Branch is subservient to the Judicial Branch

 

[WorldWatcher]

But you think the Executive Branch is subservient to the Judicial Branch

No, I think the Executive Branch must faithfully execute the laws of the United States and the Constitution.

WW

 

[braalian]

What's the judge gonna do now? Order in the United States Marines? LOL

You think it’s funny? He wasn’t a gang member and the Trump administration admired that him being sent there was an “administrative error”

 

[braalian]

But you think the Executive Branch is subservient to the Judicial Branch

They’re separate powers. Do you understand the concept of separation of powers?

 

[Blaster]

They’re separate powers. Do you understand the concept of separation of powers?

The judicial branch should stay in its own lane.

 

[braalian]

The judicial branch should stay in its own lane.

Explain how they’re not? The role of the judiciary is to interpret laws and style legal disputes

Explain how they’re not “staying in their lane”

And what does your response have to do with a man being sent to prison over an “administrative error”?

 

[Blaster]

Explain how they’re not? The role of the judiciary is to interpret laws and style legal disputes

Explain how they’re not “staying in their lane”

And what does your response have to do with a man being sent to prison over an “administrative error”?

The man is a MS 13 gang member.