"Kilmar Abrego Garcia is alive and secure but is under the sovereign, domestic authority of El Salvador"

[excalibur]

What's the judge gonna do now? Order in the United States Marines? LOL

 

[WorldWatcher]

If he's under the soverign, domestic authority of the counry of El Salvador.

Why are US taxpayers paying El Salvador to house him?

If the US prisoners that the US transferred to El Salvador are under their soverign and domestic authority, cancel the $6,000,000 we're paying to house them.

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

If he's under the soverign, domestic authority of the counry of El Salvador.

Why are US taxpayers paying El Salvador to house him?

If the US prisoners that the US transferred to El Salvador are under their soverign and domestic authority, cancel the $6,000,000 we're paying to house them.

WW

Foreign aid for an ally.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What's the judge gonna do now? Order in the United States Marines? LOL

This was very predictible, and is an example of why intelligent and rational people do not need such examples.

Of course a Federal district judge cannot order El Salvador to send one of its own citizens to the U.S.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What's the judge gonna do now? Order in the United States Marines? LOL

Why isn't the Admin trying to bring him back?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Foreign aid for an ally.

It's not foreign aid, that's silly.

It has always been described as a contract for 1 year to house US prisoners.

That's not "aid" is "contracted services".

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why isn't the Admin trying to bring him back?

They are only required to "facilitate" his "return."

If El Salvador does not want to send their citizen to the U.S., there is no return to facilitate.

The Trump Administration would only run afoul of that order, if El Salvador tried to sent him to the United States (not "back" to the United States), and the U.S. did not help.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It's not foreign aid, that's silly.

It has always been described as a contract for 1 year to house US prisoners.

That's not "aid" is "contracted services".

WW

Then the U.S. must honor its contract. Is there a clause in it about the U.S. changing its mind and being able to withold payments?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Then the U.S. must honor its contract. Is there a clause in it about the U.S. changing its mind and being able to withold payments?

We haven't seen the contract.

But any lawyer working on such a contract for housing prisoners will have a return clause and a payment cancelation clause.

What idiot would sign a contract for $6,000,000 with no control over delivery of services, return of matererials (in this case the prisoners), and cancelation? (Yes, this is a rhetorical question.)

Especially since President Donald "The Art of the Deal" Trump is famous for stiffing vendors.

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

We haven't seen the contract.

But any lawyer working on such a contract for housing prisoners will have a return clause and a payment cancelation clause.

No they wouldn't. Why would we want terrorist gang members to be sent to the United States?

What idiot would sign a contract for $6,000,000 with no control over delivery of services, return of matererials (in this case the prisoners), and cancelation.

Materials?

They are human being for Pete's sake!

But not Americans citizens, so why would an America First president put their comfort ahead of the safety of Americans?

Especially since President Donald "The Art of the Deal" Trump is famous for stiffing vendors.

WW

You're drifting off-topic.

What will the judge do now, is the question?

 

[WorldWatcher]

No they wouldn't. Why would we want terrorist gang members to be sent to the United States?

Materials?

They are human being for Pete's sake!

But not Americans citizens, so why would an America First president put their comfort ahead of the safety of Americans?

You're drifting off-topic.

Can't you quote honestly. I said "return of matererials (in this case the prisoners),".

We're talking about government contracts.

WW

 

[Crepitus]

If he's under the soverign, domestic authority of the counry of El Salvador.

Why are US taxpayers paying El Salvador to house him?

If the US prisoners that the US transferred to El Salvador are under their soverign and domestic authority, cancel the $6,000,000 we're paying to house them.

WW

Beat me to it.

 

[Crepitus]

Foreign aid for an ally.

Well that's a lie.

 

[Crepitus]

They are only required to "facilitate" his "return."

If El Salvador does not want to send their citizen to the U.S., there is no return to facilitate.

The Trump Administration would only run afoul of that order, if El Salvador tried to sent him to the United States (not "back" to the United States), and the U.S. did not help.

He was ordered not to be sent in the first place.

The lawless tRump *administration violated the judges order, and the man's constitutional rights.

 

[Marener]

What's the judge gonna do now? Order in the United States Marines? LOL

Great. That means we can arrest Trump and send him to another country’s gulag too, right?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Can't you quote honestly. I said "return of matererials (in this case the prisoners),".

We're talking about government contracts.

WW

I disagree with the word "materials" as I do not think it includes human beings. But, I won't get bogged down in something that petty.

The human beings, at least the one in question, was born in El Salvador. Sending him back was already his return.

Having been returned, this judge wants him to take another trip to the U.S.

El Salvador says no.

End of story, unless you know of another step this judge could take.

He was ordered not to be sent in the first place.

The lawless tRump *administration violated the judges order, and the man's constitutional rights.

They admitted that it was an administrative error to send him to El Salvador. Contrast that against Democrats who refuse ever to admit to any mistake ever.

Best Killmore can hope for is to be sent to a non-El Salvador country - if El Salvadore wants to send him. Since there is no indication that he speaks English, he would be happier there anyway.

Back to the OP's question: What will the judge do now?

 

[WorldWatcher]

I disagree with the word "materials" as I do not think it includes human beings. But, I won't get bogged down in something that petty.

The human beings, at least the one in question, was born in El Salvador. Sending him back was already his return.

Having been returned, this judge wants him to take another trip to the U.S.

El Salvador says no.

End of story, unless you know of another step this judge could take.


They admitted that it was an administrative error to send him to El Salvador. Contrast that against Democrats who refuse ever to admit to any mistake ever.

Best Killmore can hope for is to be sent to a non-El Salvador country - if El Salvadore wants to send him. Since there is no indication that he speaks English, he would be happier there anyway.

Back to the OP's question: What will the judge do now?

If El Salvador says "no".

Cancel payments.

WW

 

[Crepitus]

They admitted that it was an administrative error to send him to El Salvador.

That's just a lame excuse to cover their collective ass.

What would happen to you if you "accidentally" violated a judge's order?

 

[Seymour Flops]

If El Salvador says "no".

Cancel payments.

WW

That's what a Democratic president would do, if she suddenly took over the WH tomorrow. Unless they did not want to violate a contract.

But we don't have a Democrat president who wants more criminals to be sent to the U.S., so that won't happen.

Now what?

 

[Seymour Flops]

That's just a lame excuse to cover their collective ass.

What would happen to you if you "accidentally" violated a judge's order?

There would likely be consequences.

But I'm not a president, to the court would not tell me how to conduct foreign policy.

Or maybe they would, if it were Biasberg. Would make as much sense as his other orders.

Remember, this was an Immigration Judge, who is not a member of the judicial branch. They work for the DOJ, at the pleasure of the Attorney General.