Kamala Harris: Of Course We Must Regulate How Much Meat Americans Are Eating

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During a CNN town hall special about climate change Wednesday night, Democrat Senator Kamala Harris was asked if she would be willing to change federal eating guidelines for the sake of saving the planet if she became president. She agreed with a questioner who argued Americans should be eating less meat and that the government should force them into other dietary habits.


"Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
When I was in China two years ago a woman in the communist party, who works with the UN, talked all about the necessity of changing eating habits and eliminating meat. By government force. This is communism and 2020 Democrats are fully embracing it.
"
Progs want to control everyone's behavior.

The article is from a "fake news" internet site and is a complete lie. There are no laws regulating how much meat Americans eat and there never will be. This is more right wing fear mongering and hysteria.


The "National Nutritional Guidelines" Harris talking about amending, is the daily dietary recommendations (suggested not legislated) issued by the NIH. The NIH has always tried to recommend that Americans eat less red meat, since the dangers of cholesterol became a thing. The original guidelines were amended after extensive lobbying by the both the beef and dairy industries, and already recommends more red meat and dairy than the NIH believes is optimum for your health.

So you have no issues with the beef industry lobbying to have you eat more of their product - essentially trying to "kill you with cholesterol", for their own benefit and profit, but you have HUGE issues, with Kamala suggested you to eat less meat for the good of your health and the good on your economy.

Fear mongering and hysteria is all Republicans have. They'll take away your hamburgers!!! Oh the humanity!!

Gullible fools to the end.
 
During a CNN town hall special about climate change Wednesday night, Democrat Senator Kamala Harris was asked if she would be willing to change federal eating guidelines for the sake of saving the planet if she became president. She agreed with a questioner who argued Americans should be eating less meat and that the government should force them into other dietary habits.


"Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
When I was in China two years ago a woman in the communist party, who works with the UN, talked all about the necessity of changing eating habits and eliminating meat. By government force. This is communism and 2020 Democrats are fully embracing it.
"


Progs want to control everyone's behavior.

Wow, another silly RED SCARE, how prosaic.

That said, my family still enjoys meat, but we don't eat it at every meal, and have followed the advice of doctors to cut down saturated fats.

In fact Sunday my sons, daughter-in-law and grandsons will enjoy a four pound Filet Mignon Roast (Choice, not Prime) for supper; sides of Creamed Spinach, Roasted Potato and Green Beans.

And if people like Kamala get their way you will either pay more in "sin" taxes for that, or have to explain to your Obamacare doctor why you are eating it.

The cost for the roast was $80.59, equivalent to two extra large combination pizzas. The roast will be mostly gone on the same it will be cooked, the pizza leftover will be breakfast and possibly eaten for dinner the next day.

The latter, pizza, was a choice in most elementary school cafeterias, along with a sugar pops breakfast, the students will be hooked on sugars, salt and fat. Michelle Obama did a great service as the first lady, she really cared about children unlike the current first lady.

"Sin" tax? That tax was paid to the hospital, the doctors and the pharmacy who provide the life saving treatment for a life of unhealthful eating.
Let's cut to the chase, Rye. You can just say that you're for the government dictating what is consumed and what isn't.
From all that I heard, what Michelle dictated the children to eat in school tasted like crap. That IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT
You are a communist, Rye.

You're an idiot, Meister.

Q. Do you have kids. If you do, do you read labels or don't you really care about children?

Q. Do you smoke, and ignore the warning sign on the package?

What you need to consider is not that the government would force people to eat less meat, but what this current government is doing to democracy in America. That you can't see what Trump has done and is doing is why I call you an idiot.
You're deflecting with your name calling, Rye. It's not up to the government to be dictating what the children should be eating.
It's up to the parents to lay the parameters as to the child's diet, along with their own diet. If they don't want to let the
children eat what the school's menu is, they can pack their children's lunches for them.

You're one of those Californian cradle to the grave type of people. You're pathetic.
Now go back to the name calling, Rye. It's all you have.

Okay, you've typed cast me, after calling me an idiot. Do you see the irony: Do as I say, not as I do?

The government has yet to force We the People to eat less meat. You and the others above are claiming Sen. Harris will promote and enforce meat eating to be a crime. This type of hyperbole is not only dishonest it is not credible.

But something incredible still creates a circle jerk among self describe conservatives and trump supporters. It's sad that you too join the fray, and umpire you are not.
This is what the liberals do, they call other people a name, and in Rye's case, called me an idiot, then turns around
and says that I called him an idiot. This is right out of the democrat playbook. I never called you an idiot, Rye.

Go back and look at the title of the OP, okay?
What's this umpire stuff?

Mea culpa, you did not call me an idiot, you stated:

"You are a communist, Rye."

Name calling is name calling, don't you agree.

A. What's the umpire stuff?

Q. I'm certain you know.
You should embrace that you're a communist, it's not a mental state, it's a philosophy , not like I'm calling you an idiot, or an ignorant fuck, along those lines.

If you're referring to me a being a mod, well, I am one when I'm moderating a post or a thread. When I'm not moderating, I'm a poster just
like you, Rye, and I can give my opinions freely, But I think you already knew that.

Fine, so I will treat you as one of the callous conservatives, and expose the hypocrisy that brings with your comments the principle all callous conservatives carry with them: I got mine, fuck the rest of you.

I admit to being a liberal Democrat, and I believe and will support by my votes these first two paragraphs in the Declaration of Independence:

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


I'm not suggesting you don't support these principles, but the fact is Trump does not, in deed, in word and in policies. And I believe that both trump and mcconnell are a great threat to the principles laid out in the DoI and in the Preamble to COTUS.
 
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During a CNN town hall special about climate change Wednesday night, Democrat Senator Kamala Harris was asked if she would be willing to change federal eating guidelines for the sake of saving the planet if she became president. She agreed with a questioner who argued Americans should be eating less meat and that the government should force them into other dietary habits.


"Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
When I was in China two years ago a woman in the communist party, who works with the UN, talked all about the necessity of changing eating habits and eliminating meat. By government force. This is communism and 2020 Democrats are fully embracing it.
"


Progs want to control everyone's behavior.

Wow, another silly RED SCARE, how prosaic.

That said, my family still enjoys meat, but we don't eat it at every meal, and have followed the advice of doctors to cut down saturated fats.

In fact Sunday my sons, daughter-in-law and grandsons will enjoy a four pound Filet Mignon Roast (Choice, not Prime) for supper; sides of Creamed Spinach, Roasted Potato and Green Beans.

And if people like Kamala get their way you will either pay more in "sin" taxes for that, or have to explain to your Obamacare doctor why you are eating it.

The cost for the roast was $80.59, equivalent to two extra large combination pizzas. The roast will be mostly gone on the same it will be cooked, the pizza leftover will be breakfast and possibly eaten for dinner the next day.

The latter, pizza, was a choice in most elementary school cafeterias, along with a sugar pops breakfast, the students will be hooked on sugars, salt and fat. Michelle Obama did a great service as the first lady, she really cared about children unlike the current first lady.

"Sin" tax? That tax was paid to the hospital, the doctors and the pharmacy who provide the life saving treatment for a life of unhealthful eating.
Let's cut to the chase, Rye. You can just say that you're for the government dictating what is consumed and what isn't.
From all that I heard, what Michelle dictated the children to eat in school tasted like crap. That IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT
You are a communist, Rye.

You're an idiot, Meister.

Q. Do you have kids. If you do, do you read labels or don't you really care about children?

Q. Do you smoke, and ignore the warning sign on the package?

What you need to consider is not that the government would force people to eat less meat, but what this current government is doing to democracy in America. That you can't see what Trump has done and is doing is why I call you an idiot.
You're deflecting with your name calling, Rye. It's not up to the government to be dictating what the children should be eating.
It's up to the parents to lay the parameters as to the child's diet, along with their own diet. If they don't want to let the
children eat what the school's menu is, they can pack their children's lunches for them.

You're one of those Californian cradle to the grave type of people. You're pathetic.
Now go back to the name calling, Rye. It's all you have.

Okay, you've typed cast me, after calling me an idiot. Do you see the irony: Do as I say, not as I do?

The government has yet to force We the People to eat less meat. You and the others above are claiming Sen. Harris will promote and enforce meat eating to be a crime. This type of hyperbole is not only dishonest it is not credible.

But something incredible still creates a circle jerk among self describe conservatives and trump supporters. It's sad that you too join the fray, and umpire you are not.
This is what the liberals do, they call other people a name, and in Rye's case, called me an idiot, then turns around
and says that I called him an idiot. This is right out of the democrat playbook. I never called you an idiot, Rye.

Go back and look at the title of the OP, okay?
What's this umpire stuff?

Mea culpa, you did not call me an idiot, you stated:

"You are a communist, Rye."

Name calling is name calling, don't you agree.

A. What's the umpire stuff?

Q. I'm certain you know.
You should embrace that you're a communist, it's not a mental state, it's a philosophy , not like I'm calling you an idiot, or an ignorant fuck, along those lines.

If you're referring to me a being a mod, well, I am one when I'm moderating a post or a thread. When I'm not moderating, I'm a poster just
like you, Rye, and I can give my opinions freely, But I think you already knew that.

Fine, so I will treat you as one of the callous conservatives, and expose the hypocrisy that brings with your comments the principle all callous conservatives carry with them: I got mine, fuck the rest of you.

I admit to being a liberal Democrat, and I believe and will support by my votes these first two paragraphs in the Declaration of Independence:

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

I'm not suggesting you don't support these principles, but the fact is Trump does not, in deed, in word and in policies. And I believe that both trump and mcconnell are a great threat to the principles laid out in the DoI and in the Preamble to COTUS.

Thread is Camel Toe's dietary crap. Not Trump
 
Americans are obese. that's not a threat, it's a fact. So is heart and vascular disease, cancer and diabetes.

That's not the question. The question is whether government should have the power to tell us what to eat.

Telling the people what is good and healthy is a far cry from forcing them to do so. However, IMO tobacco needs to be placed on the Schedule I list of drugs, and its production, farming to be outlawed. Since you are so concerned about money, read this:

Smoking-related illness in the United States costs more than $300 billion each year, including:

How did prohibition work out, Dummy?
 
During a CNN town hall special about climate change Wednesday night, Democrat Senator Kamala Harris was asked if she would be willing to change federal eating guidelines for the sake of saving the planet if she became president. She agreed with a questioner who argued Americans should be eating less meat and that the government should force them into other dietary habits.


"Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
When I was in China two years ago a woman in the communist party, who works with the UN, talked all about the necessity of changing eating habits and eliminating meat. By government force. This is communism and 2020 Democrats are fully embracing it.
"


Progs want to control everyone's behavior.

Wow, another silly RED SCARE, how prosaic.

That said, my family still enjoys meat, but we don't eat it at every meal, and have followed the advice of doctors to cut down saturated fats.

In fact Sunday my sons, daughter-in-law and grandsons will enjoy a four pound Filet Mignon Roast (Choice, not Prime) for supper; sides of Creamed Spinach, Roasted Potato and Green Beans.

And if people like Kamala get their way you will either pay more in "sin" taxes for that, or have to explain to your Obamacare doctor why you are eating it.

The cost for the roast was $80.59, equivalent to two extra large combination pizzas. The roast will be mostly gone on the same it will be cooked, the pizza leftover will be breakfast and possibly eaten for dinner the next day.

The latter, pizza, was a choice in most elementary school cafeterias, along with a sugar pops breakfast, the students will be hooked on sugars, salt and fat. Michelle Obama did a great service as the first lady, she really cared about children unlike the current first lady.

"Sin" tax? That tax was paid to the hospital, the doctors and the pharmacy who provide the life saving treatment for a life of unhealthful eating.
Let's cut to the chase, Rye. You can just say that you're for the government dictating what is consumed and what isn't.
From all that I heard, what Michelle dictated the children to eat in school tasted like crap. That IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT
You are a communist, Rye.

You're an idiot, Meister.

Q. Do you have kids. If you do, do you read labels or don't you really care about children?

Q. Do you smoke, and ignore the warning sign on the package?

What you need to consider is not that the government would force people to eat less meat, but what this current government is doing to democracy in America. That you can't see what Trump has done and is doing is why I call you an idiot.
You're deflecting with your name calling, Rye. It's not up to the government to be dictating what the children should be eating.
It's up to the parents to lay the parameters as to the child's diet, along with their own diet. If they don't want to let the
children eat what the school's menu is, they can pack their children's lunches for them.

You're one of those Californian cradle to the grave type of people. You're pathetic.
Now go back to the name calling, Rye. It's all you have.

Okay, you've typed cast me, after calling me an idiot. Do you see the irony: Do as I say, not as I do?

The government has yet to force We the People to eat less meat. You and the others above are claiming Sen. Harris will promote and enforce meat eating to be a crime. This type of hyperbole is not only dishonest it is not credible.

But something incredible still creates a circle jerk among self describe conservatives and trump supporters. It's sad that you too join the fray, and umpire you are not.
This is what the liberals do, they call other people a name, and in Rye's case, called me an idiot, then turns around
and says that I called him an idiot. This is right out of the democrat playbook. I never called you an idiot, Rye.

Go back and look at the title of the OP, okay?
What's this umpire stuff?

Mea culpa, you did not call me an idiot, you stated:

"You are a communist, Rye."

Name calling is name calling, don't you agree.

A. What's the umpire stuff?

Q. I'm certain you know.
You should embrace that you're a communist, it's not a mental state, it's a philosophy , not like I'm calling you an idiot, or an ignorant fuck, along those lines.

If you're referring to me a being a mod, well, I am one when I'm moderating a post or a thread. When I'm not moderating, I'm a poster just
like you, Rye, and I can give my opinions freely, But I think you already knew that.

Fine, so I will treat you as one of the callous conservatives, and expose the hypocrisy that brings with your comments the principle all callous conservatives carry with them: I got mine, fuck the rest of you.

I admit to being a liberal Democrat, and I believe and will support by my votes these first two paragraphs in the Declaration of Independence:

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

I'm not suggesting you don't support these principles, but the fact is Trump does not, in deed, in word and in policies. And I believe that both trump and mcconnell are a great threat to the principles laid out in the DoI and in the Preamble to COTUS.

Thread is Camel Toe's dietary crap. Not Trump

You never tire of telling others what to do, and ordering people you have no authority or influence over around. One would think that someone who claims to be as clever as you do would figure out that no one is paying attention to your orders and directives.

But then you do vote Republican so you're clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 
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Hmmmm...I wonder what Barry and Mooches' regulatory allotment of Wagyu Beef will be.
 
The NIH has always tried to recommend that Americans eat less red meat, since the dangers of cholesterol became a thing.

The NIH is not going to be the de facto President of our country.

I was just pointing out the ineffectiveness of government attempts at getting Americans to eat less meat. Obama tried to get the NIH to do the same thing, but the beef lobby and the Republicans went bat shit crazy over it.

And that they hysteria being stoked about Kamala changing the Guidelines is ridiculous, but you want to cling to fear and hysteria, rather than facts, history or common sense.

No one is legislating what you eat. Now or in future.
 
Americans are obese. that's not a threat, it's a fact. So is heart and vascular disease, cancer and diabetes.

That's not the question. The question is whether government should have the power to tell us what to eat.

Telling the people what is good and healthy is a far cry from forcing them to do so. However, IMO tobacco needs to be placed on the Schedule I list of drugs, and its production, farming to be outlawed. Since you are so concerned about money, read this:

Smoking-related illness in the United States costs more than $300 billion each year, including:

How did prohibition work out, Dummy?

It didn't. How well did the Prohibition of Marijuana work, moron?

People addicted to tobacco would continue to use it, yet by taxing it many have been able to quit. It may take a generation or two if the DOJ places tobacco as a schedule I drug, and outlaw tobacco farms. But most heavy smokers, and those who chew, usually die around 50.

I don't know how old you are, but my empirical evidence is at age 50 cardiopulmonary and vascular disease puts them in poor health, or in an early grave.
 
Your attack on the former first lady is unwarranted. She never wore a coat like this one:

Correct. She wore dresses like this.

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Well at least she wore clothes.

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You elected a conman and a grifter, and he brought his sleazy, whore of a wife with him. Really classy family.


Oh you sad hag. You wish you looked even 1/10th as attractive as the lovely and accomplished Melania.
 
The NIH has always tried to recommend that Americans eat less red meat, since the dangers of cholesterol became a thing.

The NIH is not going to be the de facto President of our country.

I was just pointing out the ineffectiveness of government attempts at getting Americans to eat less meat. Obama tried to get the NIH to do the same thing, but the beef lobby and the Republicans went bat shit crazy over it.

And that they hysteria being stoked about Kamala changing the Guidelines is ridiculous, but you want to cling to fear and hysteria, rather than facts, history or common sense.

No one is legislating what you eat. Now or in future.
youre not american so how would you know what can or cant happen here,,,

its time you mind your own business,,,
 
it never stops at guidelines, it always morphs into taxes or fees, or restrictions.
Healthcare insurance is a good idea to promote, but the individual mandate was a travesty. This is how democrats operate when given power.
Mandates are the net result every time government "promotes" something.


We've had those dietary guidelines since the 1980s.

When did the government mandate anything in regard to your eating habits?

Stop being ridiculous.

We all learned the food pyramid when we went to school even before it became official by the government.

Really you're being paranoid and ridiculous.
 
So the filthy ass Democrats now want to control the food that you eat?

Typical for Communists.

They know better than you, They are saving you from your own dumb self. Just let them make all the decisions for you.
 
it never stops at guidelines, it always morphs into taxes or fees, or restrictions.
Healthcare insurance is a good idea to promote, but the individual mandate was a travesty. This is how democrats operate when given power.
Mandates are the net result every time government "promotes" something.


We've had those dietary guidelines since the 1980s.

When did the government mandate anything in regard to your eating habits?

Stop being ridiculous.

We all learned the food pyramid when we went to school even before it became official by the government.

Really you're being paranoid and ridiculous.

And it was bullshit.
food_pyramid3.jpg
 
During a CNN town hall special about climate change Wednesday night, Democrat Senator Kamala Harris was asked if she would be willing to change federal eating guidelines for the sake of saving the planet if she became president. She agreed with a questioner who argued Americans should be eating less meat and that the government should force them into other dietary habits.


"Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
When I was in China two years ago a woman in the communist party, who works with the UN, talked all about the necessity of changing eating habits and eliminating meat. By government force. This is communism and 2020 Democrats are fully embracing it.
"
Progs want to control everyone's behavior.

The article is from a "fake news" internet site and is a complete lie. There are no laws regulating how much meat Americans eat and there never will be. This is more right wing fear mongering and hysteria.


The "National Nutritional Guidelines" Harris talking about amending, is the daily dietary recommendations (suggested not legislated) issued by the NIH. The NIH has always tried to recommend that Americans eat less red meat, since the dangers of cholesterol became a thing. The original guidelines were amended after extensive lobbying by the both the beef and dairy industries, and already recommends more red meat and dairy than the NIH believes is optimum for your health.

So you have no issues with the beef industry lobbying to have you eat more of their product - essentially trying to "kill you with cholesterol", for their own benefit and profit, but you have HUGE issues, with Kamala suggested you to eat less meat for the good of your health and the good on your economy.

Fear mongering and hysteria is all Republicans have. They'll take away your hamburgers!!! Oh the humanity!!

Gullible fools to the end.
I pointed this out earlier. They believe this stuff.

Back before Trump won and commandeered the term, we used "fake news" to describe sites like Breitbart, WND, Alex Jones, and many others because they'd just make shit up out of thin air (like this) and the right wingers would eat it up (like this). It's still happening.
 
I was just pointing out the ineffectiveness of government attempts at getting Americans to eat less meat. Obama tried to get the NIH to do the same thing, but the beef lobby and the Republicans went bat shit crazy over it.

And that they hysteria being stoked about Kamala changing the Guidelines is ridiculous, but you want to cling to fear and hysteria, rather than facts, history or common sense.

No one is legislating what you eat. Now or in future.

That's because that's only step one.

Democrats are control freaks. They want to control everybody. We were discussing tobacco products. No, they didn't outlaw them, but they kept taxing and taxing them until a good percentage quit. Given their power hungry history, you mean to tell me they wouldn't do the same with red meat if they had the power?

Who would go to McDonald's if a Big Mac combo cost $22.00? A pack of hotdogs $12.00? A pan of sloppy Joe for $15.00?

I remember when they outlawed home incinerators. Just outlaw those nasty smelly things and we'll be happy. Throw all garbage away instead. Did the environmental movement stop there? I remember when they outlawed smoking in movie theaters. Just stop smoking in movie theaters, and we will be plenty happy. Fast forward to today, and you can't even smoke outside in some places, and most states you can't smoke inside any public place.

Now we read that Harris just wants "guidelines" into reduction of meat consumption, and you ask why we get upset by this?????
 
So in your opinion government taxing us into submission is fine if Democrats decide it's for our own good? I find that hypocritical coming from a party that constantly cries the right wants to control women's bodies.

Keep in mind that by “control women's bodies”, what they are really objecting to is protecting the right of innocent children not to be murdered in cold blood.
 
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