Judge blocks Trumps EO to end birthright citizenship

[Slade3200]

Jurisdiction in this case means already legally under the care and confines of the USA. Illegals are not such

We aren’t talking about illegals. We are talking about humans born on our soil

 

[The Irish Ram]

Read the Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment asshole!!

And then figure out what amendment means. An amendment is an addition or a taking away from the power of the Constitution. It is not the Constitution. Amendments can be changed without changing the Constitution. If Congress wants to amend + or - it can and does.

 

[Zincwarrior]

True. But the operative phrase is “so far.”

True

Doesn’t matter.

Just interested in the view of a different court

The ruling that will matter is the one that is likely to come from SCOTUS.

Yes in three to five years.

 

[mudwhistle]

Birthright citizenship IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION. It is an interpretation of a couple of words - an interpretation that is totally outside the contemplation of the people who wrote and voted for the Amendment.

No matter which way it goes in court, Trump is performing a public service in bringing it up. Shit, the Lefties won't accept it even if a LAW is passed; we know that, right?

But here is the most important question on the matter: Why is the political Left so supportive of this interpretation? It is obviously BAD FOR AMERICA. It naturalizes people who have no business being here, and in due course, it will keep their illegal parents in the country, at the insistence of Leftist politicians and judges. IT IS BAD FOR THE U.S. So why are Leftists so keen to keep it?????

Seriously. Someone here can answer the question, right?

The left is keen on turning countries into socialist wastelands.
Muslims like converting countries to Islam.
They both do this with varying degrees of bloodshed, which is perfect for people that support a global government that controls everything.

 

[BrokeLoser]

"Free" being the operative word, black people were considered property not people.

Going back even to that time free black person who had a baby, that baby was a citizen.

WW

BINGO and the whole purpose for 14 section 1. Slaves became citizens in 1865 and their children in 1868.
14 section 1 was never intended to compel Mexico’s people to break into our nation and drop liabilities in our lap.
Our Founders are rolling in their graves watching this abomination.

 

[BackAgain]

True

Just interested in the view of a different court


Yes in three to five years.

Probably fewer.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Probably fewer.

I never underestimate the ability of the US court system to take YEARS.

 

[BrokeLoser]

This thread is awesome…it brings all the America last fucks out in the wide open. Trump will drag them along as they kick and scream and demand that Americans continue to fuck themselves.

 

[WorldWatcher]

BINGO and the whole purpose for 14 section 1. Slaves became citizens in 1865 and their children in 1868.
14 section 1 was never intended to compel Mexico’s people to break into our nation and drop liabilities in our lap.
Our Founders are rolling in their graves watching this abomination.

The Founders recognized jus soli (birth of the land) citizenship with the exception being those not under Jurisdiction of the United States. That means diplomates and their immediate family admitted as part of diplomatic missions.

At the time this country was founded (and since) jus soli was and has been the standard.

Wanna change it? Fine, I can even go along with that (i.e. require legal presence for jus soli to apply), but the President doesn't get to change the Constitution by EO.

WW

 

[IM2]

The worst President- Lincoln
Second worse- Reagan

Consider this, Lincoln sends ALL slaves home to Africa so they don’t have to live in systemically racist America and Reagan never signs the Amnesty Bill that created this shit-storm at our border and throughout our nation.
Now close your eyes….what does that America look like?

It looks like a bunch of dead white folks killed by the real inhabitants of this land.

 

[BackAgain]

I never underestimate the ability of the US court system to take YEARS.

When a case commences in Federal Court, it can proceed much faster.

In any event, at least President Trump got the ball rolling. Fast.

 

[IM2]

This thread is awesome…it brings all the America last fucks out in the wide open. Trump will drag them along as they kick and scream and demand that Americans continue to fuck themselves.

You are America last.

 

[Billiejeens]

Sure, because Heil Shitler! expects his "court" to be loyal to him and do his bidding.

You have a very limited vocabulary

 

[WEATHER53]

We aren’t talking about illegals. We are talking about humans born on our soil

Who you feel are magically good to go when the party who delivered is a criminal
I don’t think babies get born with an automatic not guilty good to go. There is a well established legal precedent against “fruits of the poisoned tree” And that baby is the mother’s responsibility (gasp word) and “fruit” and not true citizens of the USA. Her illegality is the poisoning

 

[otto105]

Lol

The EO DOESNT take away any Constitutional right. Instead, you dolt, it seeks to clarify that the 14th does not apply and was never intended to apply to kids born here of illegal alien parents.

“That’s”

You’re a maroon.

It was intended to do exactly what it states.

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[Edgetho]

Then the judge was paid to do so. the 14A says those born in america AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF are citizens. Birthright citizenship violates the 14A.

The 14th doesn't address those who are illegally squirting out future Wards of the State.

So, according to dimocrap scum, a team of foreign terrorists could be sent here from assfuckistan to poison the water supply of a Major City, but if they have fucking kid while they're here, it's a Citizen?

How fucking stupid is that?

dimocrap stupid. Which on a 1 to 10 scale of stupid is an 11.

dimocrap scum don't think, they react.

Foreign Spies that have a fucking kid here. The kid is a Citizen?

Do you understand how incredibly stupid birthright citizenship is? It's why we're the only Country STUPID enough to have it. Because dimocrap scum have enough power, appoint enough Hacks in Black, to get it done.

dimocraps are the stupidest motherfuckers to ever live on the Planet.

They need to be eliminated from the Halls of Power. Forever.

They can be used to scrape the shit out of bedpans. It's all they're good for. Animal dumb

 

[BrokeLoser]

The Founders recognized jus soli (birth of the land) citizenship with the exception being those not under Jurisdiction of the United States. That means diplomates and their immediate family admitted as part of diplomatic missions.

Children are born of parents, children are subject to their parents, illegal parents are subject to the jurisdiction from which they’re from as are their children.
Make no mistake, we have been operating by some weird tradition and not by actual constitutional intent. This said tradition is just plain nonsensical and unsustainable….it always has been.

 

[otto105]

You have a very limited vocabulary

Move On michael jackson's baby.

 

[Slade3200]

Who you feel are magically good to go when the party who delivered is a criminal
I don’t think babies get born with an automatic not guilty good to go. There is a well established legal precedent against “fruits of the poisoned tree” And that baby is the mothers responsibility (gasp word) and not true citizens of the USA

That’s what our constitutions says. It’s how it’s always been. Don’t like it. Change it with legislation

 

[BrokeLoser]

That’s what our constitutions says. It’s how it’s always been. Don’t like it. Change it with legislation

Just so we know we can take all the woke white guilt purple hair clowns seriously can you link us to your previous posts showing that you denounced the Kenyan’s executive action / creation of DACA?