Jo Jorgensen for President

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if i vote for say this jo lady her vote total goes up 1.....biden and trump stay the same....how did i help one of them?....
By not adding a vote to the tally of the opponent of the major candidate you least prefer. This is a result of the ironclad fact that one of the two major candidates is going to win.

So, let's say you least prefer Biden. You vote for Jo. Biden gets 99 votes, and so does Trump. If you had voted for the one of the major two candidates you prefer (in this case, trump), you would have given trump a one vote edge. 100 to 99.

Instead, you vote for Jo. One less net vote for the major candidate you prefer.

Again, this is a simple, mathematical reality that arises from the fact that one of the major two candidates is going to win.
As I keep saying, when you vote for someone you are telling them they are doing a great job.

I REFUSE to send that message to the two major parties.

Also, if enough people vote third party, they make the election closer, which means the winner cannot claim a mandate.
There’s no way you believe that. Whenever a politician squeaks out a victory by the slimmest of margins they claim its a mandate on their agenda. Come on man, there’s no sensible reason to vote third party. If it makes you feel better do it, but it’s a pointless exercise
I have integrity. Therefore I refuse to vote for either scumbag just because I hate the other scumbag more.

This "lesser of two evils" horseshit has given us Bush, Obama, and Trump and a $23 trillion debt.

So how's that working for ya?
I’m not voting for neither candidate as well. I’m doing something productive on Election Day - I’m stay home and doing cores. If I had a good idea of who was the lesser of two evils that’s who I’d vote for, but I don’t. Voting third party won’t do a single thing to help promote positive change. The parties are what they are and there’s some good leadership there, unfortunately they’re just not on either ticket this go around.
yea where is that good leadership?....they must be staying home doing chores too....
Who gets to decide who is and who is not a good leader?
gee i guess it must be what someone thinks about someone.....your great leader might be someone i laugh at....

Who?
Dr. Who?....
Who?
Who decides?
already answered you.....
Nope
yep i sure did....
 

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I have never voted for a third party candidate. I was a straight Republican ticket kind of guy. All or nothing.

Since the GOP veered way, way off track from it's principles more than a decade ago, I have stopped voting on the national level since 2006.

Yet I have refused to vote third party in all this time. The reason being that the third parties are all whackadoos.

Well, the Republican party has somehow managed to become the whackiest of all whackadoos, and they are starting to make the Libertarian Party look good.

That's how badly our country has fallen, folks. Libertarians are starting to look like the sane people in the room.

Now, as a die hard Reagan Republican who has been active in politics since the age of 15, I have rubbed elbows with many a Libertarian at various conventions and conferences and whatnot. If you attend a conservative function, there are always Libertarians there.

I am not going to far as to register as a Libertarian. As I have said for many years, I would be a Libertarian except for the fact I have common sense. :tongue:

However, there are certain principles with which I and Libertarians are aligned. More on that in my succeeding posts.
Unless she completely goes off the rails in the next few months, she's got my vote.
She went off the rails when she had her Ayn Rand epiphany, as far as I am concerned.
The libertarian was good until it was clear she was a libertarian, LOL. Great argument
 

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I sure would love to vote third party. Or write in Yang. But I live in a purple state, and therefore I have to vote directly against Trumpism.
That's not a real thing Mac. All you can do is vote FOR a candidate. Which one will you vote for?
The only way to vote against Trumpism is to vote for the person who has the best chance to beat him. That would be Biden, as distasteful as that will be.

If he wins, it will then be time to work on what has become of the Democratic party.
LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
Sure. Your standard is that anyone who advocates voting for Trump worships him, he's our messiah, we believe everything he says and support and adore every policy, we love and adore him and everything he says and does.

Since that's your standard for voting for someone and you advocated voting for Biden, do the math
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
Sure. Your standard is that anyone who advocates voting for Trump worships him, he's our messiah, we believe everything he says and support and adore every policy, we love and adore him and everything he says and does.

Since that's your standard for voting for someone and you advocated voting for Biden, do the math
It's not my standard for voting for someone, nor have I ever said that. I think it's a sickness.

So, another lie shoved down your throat.

How many times do you plan on lying? How weak are you willing to look for me?
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
Sure. Your standard is that anyone who advocates voting for Trump worships him, he's our messiah, we believe everything he says and support and adore every policy, we love and adore him and everything he says and does.

Since that's your standard for voting for someone and you advocated voting for Biden, do the math
It's not my standard for voting for someone, nor have I ever said that. I think it's a sickness.

So, another lie shoved down your throat.

How many times do you plan on lying? How weak are you willing to look for me?
Gotcha, it's only your standard for voting for people you don't want to vote for, not the ones you do.

You've endlessly repeated the stupid crap that to disagree with you is to worship Trump and think he's our messiah. Cut the stupid crap
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
Sure. Your standard is that anyone who advocates voting for Trump worships him, he's our messiah, we believe everything he says and support and adore every policy, we love and adore him and everything he says and does.

Since that's your standard for voting for someone and you advocated voting for Biden, do the math
It's not my standard for voting for someone, nor have I ever said that. I think it's a sickness.

So, another lie shoved down your throat.

How many times do you plan on lying? How weak are you willing to look for me?
Gotcha, it's only your standard for voting for people you don't want to vote for, not the ones you do.

You've endlessly repeated the stupid crap that to disagree with you is to worship Trump and think he's our messiah. Cut the stupid crap
You just keep lying. I wonder what you think you're accomplishing.

I also wonder if you realize the only time we "communicate" is when you start bitching at me out of nowhere like some nasty old hag.

You're nothing. Please get this all out in one post. I'll thank you, and then we'll be done.

Creepy.
 

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I have never voted for a third party candidate. I was a straight Republican ticket kind of guy. All or nothing.

Since the GOP veered way, way off track from it's principles more than a decade ago, I have stopped voting on the national level since 2006.

Yet I have refused to vote third party in all this time. The reason being that the third parties are all whackadoos.

Well, the Republican party has somehow managed to become the whackiest of all whackadoos, and they are starting to make the Libertarian Party look good.

That's how badly our country has fallen, folks. Libertarians are starting to look like the sane people in the room.

Now, as a die hard Reagan Republican who has been active in politics since the age of 15, I have rubbed elbows with many a Libertarian at various conventions and conferences and whatnot. If you attend a conservative function, there are always Libertarians there.

I am not going to far as to register as a Libertarian. As I have said for many years, I would be a Libertarian except for the fact I have common sense. :tongue:

However, there are certain principles with which I and Libertarians are aligned. More on that in my succeeding posts.
Anyone but Trump.
 

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LOL, you love and worship Biden all day long then call him "distasteful." Funny stuff
I do? Quote me please.

Oh, that's right, you guys just make it up as you go.

Here, I'll shove this one down your throat, and I have several more:

Okay: Couldn't tell you much. Biden seems like a standard, glad-handing politician who just slides through life, spouting platitudes.
Lousy candidate. His party is a shit show.
And?
Biden is your Messiah, you constantly lie for him
Quote me please.

Even after I shove your lie down your throat, you keep lying. There is something wrong with you.
Sure. Your standard is that anyone who advocates voting for Trump worships him, he's our messiah, we believe everything he says and support and adore every policy, we love and adore him and everything he says and does.

Since that's your standard for voting for someone and you advocated voting for Biden, do the math
It's not my standard for voting for someone, nor have I ever said that. I think it's a sickness.

So, another lie shoved down your throat.

How many times do you plan on lying? How weak are you willing to look for me?
Gotcha, it's only your standard for voting for people you don't want to vote for, not the ones you do.

You've endlessly repeated the stupid crap that to disagree with you is to worship Trump and think he's our messiah. Cut the stupid crap
You just keep lying. I wonder what you think you're accomplishing.

I also wonder if you realize the only time we "communicate" is when you start bitching at me out of nowhere like some nasty old hag.

You're nothing. Please get this all out in one post. I'll thank you, and then we'll be done.

Creepy.
Bull shit, you're constantly calling anyone who would vote for Trump for any reason including that Biden is a stooge for socialists Trumpers, Trump's our messiah, we worship Trump, we think he's perfect and adore him. Don't want your own crap to come back to you? Don't dish out the crap
 

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