Jesus knew nothing of a trinity god.

I'm not going to criticize my brothers and sisters. I grew up learning Catholicism going to a parochial elementary school. There are good people there even though misguided. They accomplished a lot of good works and probably have raised the most money.


The sight of possible good works does not take away the facts that they teach and serve a non existent trinity god, misleading all listening into breaking Gods #1 commandment on a daily basis. I surely would not want to be standing there.

Now, you're just making assertions which mean nothing. You can't back anything up.

Second, it's not about works, but being saved. Once you are saved, then you are always saved. It's OSAS. Being saved involves faith. And this leads to good works, so works is involved, but just works does not save you.

Instead of arguing that which you do not understand, you should have faith first. Then, you have taken the first step to a journey of a lifetime and life forever after.



Not one is saved until they endure until their end, Jesus said-Matt 10:22--Endure living now to do Jesus Fathers will, over self.--No mortal has a right to assure another they are saved or born again-its100% lie--they do not know. Then they ask for a tithe.

Jesus blood and death paid our debt. It was the greatest sacrifice in the history of the universe. I do not doubt the power of Jesus. He is the Savior. He saved us all. Yet, we are all not saved. The Bible teaches that once you are saved through the power of Jesus, you are forever saved. If not, then you weren't saved to begin with.


There are many things most cannot understand without being taught by the teachers who have Jesus.
Acts 3:19--Repentence gets sin blotted out. If Jesus paid everyones sin they wouldn't have to die, yet all do. But at Har-mageddon. Many( great multitude) will be brought through on earth( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22) never having to taste death. Then no matter where one stands. Gods kingdom rule will be the only ruling power in existence( Dan 2:44) so on earth( Matt 5:5) is where the great multitude stand before the throne. They will not go to heaven-Rev 14:3--144,000 are BOUGHT from the EARTH. to heaven. The bride of Christ= the little flock( Luke 12:32) not the great multitude( Psalm 37:9-11,29)

Jesus paid for everyone's sin, but that doesn't mean they will enter heaven. Thus, we all die as God commanded after Adam's fall. Afterward, one still has to deal with spiritual death versus spiritual living. This will already be predestined once you die.
 
The sight of possible good works does not take away the facts that they teach and serve a non existent trinity god, misleading all listening into breaking Gods #1 commandment on a daily basis. I surely would not want to be standing there.

Now, you're just making assertions which mean nothing. You can't back anything up.

Second, it's not about works, but being saved. Once you are saved, then you are always saved. It's OSAS. Being saved involves faith. And this leads to good works, so works is involved, but just works does not save you.

Instead of arguing that which you do not understand, you should have faith first. Then, you have taken the first step to a journey of a lifetime and life forever after.



Not one is saved until they endure until their end, Jesus said-Matt 10:22--Endure living now to do Jesus Fathers will, over self.--No mortal has a right to assure another they are saved or born again-its100% lie--they do not know. Then they ask for a tithe.

Jesus blood and death paid our debt. It was the greatest sacrifice in the history of the universe. I do not doubt the power of Jesus. He is the Savior. He saved us all. Yet, we are all not saved. The Bible teaches that once you are saved through the power of Jesus, you are forever saved. If not, then you weren't saved to begin with.


There are many things most cannot understand without being taught by the teachers who have Jesus.
Acts 3:19--Repentence gets sin blotted out. If Jesus paid everyones sin they wouldn't have to die, yet all do. But at Har-mageddon. Many( great multitude) will be brought through on earth( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22) never having to taste death. Then no matter where one stands. Gods kingdom rule will be the only ruling power in existence( Dan 2:44) so on earth( Matt 5:5) is where the great multitude stand before the throne. They will not go to heaven-Rev 14:3--144,000 are BOUGHT from the EARTH. to heaven. The bride of Christ= the little flock( Luke 12:32) not the great multitude( Psalm 37:9-11,29)

Jesus paid for everyone's sin, but that doesn't mean they will enter heaven. Thus, we all die as God commanded after Adam's fall. Afterward, one still has to deal with spiritual death versus spiritual living. This will already be predestined once you die.



There would be no sense of a resurrection if all is predestined--0 is predestined except for Gods will. He desires ALL to repent-- that means he does not know who will.
 
Now, you're just making assertions which mean nothing. You can't back anything up.

Second, it's not about works, but being saved. Once you are saved, then you are always saved. It's OSAS. Being saved involves faith. And this leads to good works, so works is involved, but just works does not save you.

Instead of arguing that which you do not understand, you should have faith first. Then, you have taken the first step to a journey of a lifetime and life forever after.



Not one is saved until they endure until their end, Jesus said-Matt 10:22--Endure living now to do Jesus Fathers will, over self.--No mortal has a right to assure another they are saved or born again-its100% lie--they do not know. Then they ask for a tithe.

Jesus blood and death paid our debt. It was the greatest sacrifice in the history of the universe. I do not doubt the power of Jesus. He is the Savior. He saved us all. Yet, we are all not saved. The Bible teaches that once you are saved through the power of Jesus, you are forever saved. If not, then you weren't saved to begin with.


There are many things most cannot understand without being taught by the teachers who have Jesus.
Acts 3:19--Repentence gets sin blotted out. If Jesus paid everyones sin they wouldn't have to die, yet all do. But at Har-mageddon. Many( great multitude) will be brought through on earth( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22) never having to taste death. Then no matter where one stands. Gods kingdom rule will be the only ruling power in existence( Dan 2:44) so on earth( Matt 5:5) is where the great multitude stand before the throne. They will not go to heaven-Rev 14:3--144,000 are BOUGHT from the EARTH. to heaven. The bride of Christ= the little flock( Luke 12:32) not the great multitude( Psalm 37:9-11,29)

Jesus paid for everyone's sin, but that doesn't mean they will enter heaven. Thus, we all die as God commanded after Adam's fall. Afterward, one still has to deal with spiritual death versus spiritual living. This will already be predestined once you die.



There would be no sense of a resurrection if all is predestined--0 is predestined except for Gods will. He desires ALL to repent-- that means he does not know who will.

The resurrection is for those who have been predestined for spiritual life. That's what the Bible says. Once you die, then you are predestined.

God is the only one who knows who is predestined before we die.
 
Now, you're just making assertions which mean nothing. You can't back anything up.

Second, it's not about works, but being saved. Once you are saved, then you are always saved. It's OSAS. Being saved involves faith. And this leads to good works, so works is involved, but just works does not save you.

Instead of arguing that which you do not understand, you should have faith first. Then, you have taken the first step to a journey of a lifetime and life forever after.



Not one is saved until they endure until their end, Jesus said-Matt 10:22--Endure living now to do Jesus Fathers will, over self.--No mortal has a right to assure another they are saved or born again-its100% lie--they do not know. Then they ask for a tithe.

Jesus blood and death paid our debt. It was the greatest sacrifice in the history of the universe. I do not doubt the power of Jesus. He is the Savior. He saved us all. Yet, we are all not saved. The Bible teaches that once you are saved through the power of Jesus, you are forever saved. If not, then you weren't saved to begin with.


There are many things most cannot understand without being taught by the teachers who have Jesus.
Acts 3:19--Repentence gets sin blotted out. If Jesus paid everyones sin they wouldn't have to die, yet all do. But at Har-mageddon. Many( great multitude) will be brought through on earth( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22) never having to taste death. Then no matter where one stands. Gods kingdom rule will be the only ruling power in existence( Dan 2:44) so on earth( Matt 5:5) is where the great multitude stand before the throne. They will not go to heaven-Rev 14:3--144,000 are BOUGHT from the EARTH. to heaven. The bride of Christ= the little flock( Luke 12:32) not the great multitude( Psalm 37:9-11,29)

Jesus paid for everyone's sin, but that doesn't mean they will enter heaven. Thus, we all die as God commanded after Adam's fall. Afterward, one still has to deal with spiritual death versus spiritual living. This will already be predestined once you die.



There would be no sense of a resurrection if all is predestined--0 is predestined except for Gods will. He desires ALL to repent-- that means he does not know who will.
God experiences time all at once.
 
Now, you're just making assertions which mean nothing. You can't back anything up.

Second, it's not about works, but being saved. Once you are saved, then you are always saved. It's OSAS. Being saved involves faith. And this leads to good works, so works is involved, but just works does not save you.

Instead of arguing that which you do not understand, you should have faith first. Then, you have taken the first step to a journey of a lifetime and life forever after.



Not one is saved until they endure until their end, Jesus said-Matt 10:22--Endure living now to do Jesus Fathers will, over self.--No mortal has a right to assure another they are saved or born again-its100% lie--they do not know. Then they ask for a tithe.

Jesus blood and death paid our debt. It was the greatest sacrifice in the history of the universe. I do not doubt the power of Jesus. He is the Savior. He saved us all. Yet, we are all not saved. The Bible teaches that once you are saved through the power of Jesus, you are forever saved. If not, then you weren't saved to begin with.


There are many things most cannot understand without being taught by the teachers who have Jesus.
Acts 3:19--Repentence gets sin blotted out. If Jesus paid everyones sin they wouldn't have to die, yet all do. But at Har-mageddon. Many( great multitude) will be brought through on earth( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22) never having to taste death. Then no matter where one stands. Gods kingdom rule will be the only ruling power in existence( Dan 2:44) so on earth( Matt 5:5) is where the great multitude stand before the throne. They will not go to heaven-Rev 14:3--144,000 are BOUGHT from the EARTH. to heaven. The bride of Christ= the little flock( Luke 12:32) not the great multitude( Psalm 37:9-11,29)

Jesus paid for everyone's sin, but that doesn't mean they will enter heaven. Thus, we all die as God commanded after Adam's fall. Afterward, one still has to deal with spiritual death versus spiritual living. This will already be predestined once you die.



There would be no sense of a resurrection if all is predestined--0 is predestined except for Gods will. He desires ALL to repent-- that means he does not know who will.
Just because I wish everyone to listen to me, doesn't mean anyone will.
 
God experiences time all at once.
Prove it please.
GOD is omnipresent, which means HE exists in the past, present and future all at once.
Prove it.
Prophecy couldn't exist without GOD revealing what He HIMSELF is totally aware of and knows for a fact will happen. He couldn't know the outcome of the future unless He already exists in it.
wtf are you talking about? The bible was written by men. Nostradamus is said to have predicted a whole bunch of stuff, is he god too? Or is predicting things a mortal concern?
 
God is existence.
That's not proof, it's a musing at best, plus it sounds like some dumbed down shit you got from hob. :biggrin:
It is logic.
hob logic. :biggrin:
No. Just plain old logic.
logic doesn't prove god, because logic on something unproven is subjective. Everyone one has a theory about god, Allah...
Reason and experience proves a creator. What he created proves a creator.

You are so busy patting yourself on the back that you have never considered anything else.
 
That's not proof, it's a musing at best, plus it sounds like some dumbed down shit you got from hob. :biggrin:
It is logic.
hob logic. :biggrin:
No. Just plain old logic.
logic doesn't prove god, because logic on something unproven is subjective. Everyone one has a theory about god, Allah...
Reason and experience proves a creator. What he created proves a creator.

You are so busy patting yourself on the back that you have never considered anything else.
"Reason and experience proves a creator". This is only proof that you have nothing except a homily.
 
No. Just plain old logic.
logic doesn't prove god, because logic on something unproven is subjective. Everyone one has a theory about god, Allah...
Reason and experience proves a creator. What he created proves a creator.

You are so busy patting yourself on the back that you have never considered anything else.
"Reason and experience proves a creator". This is only proof that you have nothing except a homily.
No. I’ve walked you through this dozens of times.
 
hob logic. :biggrin:
No. Just plain old logic.
logic doesn't prove god, because logic on something unproven is subjective. Everyone one has a theory about god, Allah...
Reason and experience proves a creator. What he created proves a creator.

You are so busy patting yourself on the back that you have never considered anything else.
"Reason and experience proves a creator". This is only proof that you have nothing except a homily.
No. I’ve walked you through this dozens of times.
I know, I've seen this house of cards in quite a few different shapes.
 

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