Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[hobelim]

You have an alien conspiracy theory

Nonsense. What I have is a shit ton of evidence that the evolution of man has been influenced by "otherworldly beings", the very definition of aliens, as clearly recorded in the Bible you profess to believe is the word of God.

The overwhelming evidence that what I have provided is not a "conspiracy theory" lol is written black and white from the first to the last page of the Bible that has been in existence for many thousands of excruciating years.

People all over the world have been reporting visitations from "otherworldly beings", aliens, to this day.

Pssst!

In reality all that you have proven is that you don't believe what is written in the book you profess to believe in.

Nicely done! You're a real winner!

 

[hobelim]

I think there is no other person on this board who is so full of himself as you.

Right. Pft.

I point out the FACT that what you are actually doing at mass is idolatry and you are the one who avoids talking a stand on this truth and making it all about me by accusing me of everything from being an atheist, to an angry gay Jew, to a secular humanist, to a hate filled religious nutjob trying to subvert christianity with the TRUTH.

You make it all about me and then accuse me of being full of myself. You are a very crafty devil! But stupid.

The truth, the very truth, is that I have humbled myself, come down from heaven, to speak to the dead. Like you.

 

[hobelim]

I think your overestimation of yourself is undeserved. I think I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

Listen up. In full view of heaven and earth, believers and unbelievers alike, I have done what no other man in heaven, on earth, or under the earth could do by revealing hidden teaching, hidden knowledge, never seen or heard before in a book that has been around for millennia. Without adding, subtracting or changing a single word. You have the entire internet at your disposal. The collective knowledge of humanity. AI and all that shit.

If you don't believe me you can look it up.

Now you can either do what scripture clearly requires or face the consequences. Its time to pay the piper!

 

[hobelim]

We all understand that the morning star can be for either Jesus or Satan depending upon the context.

Lucifer has always been associated with the morning star except in Revelation where Jesus is identified as the morning star. This was an obvious hint from the authors that the Jesus you worship is the antichrist, a man who claimed to be a trinity, a mangod with all the powerful "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally.

If you need help to accept this TRUTH just kneel before me in fervent prayer and I will lay my hands upon you.

And you shall be healed.

 

[BreezeWood]

This was an obvious hint from the authors that the Jesus you worship is the antichrist, a man who claimed to be a trinity, a mangod with all the powerful "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally.

is that for zing's gratification who claims belief for "that one" (did not know there were 2) or the jews that disavow jesus they murdered using their false claims who in fact was heavenly empowered to repudiate judaism their false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al and seemingly felt betrayed by the heavens in the end.

just goes to show - never trust a leprechaun can as well be applied to the heavens.

 

[hobelim]

I know---I planted it there

Ha ha. I have revealed many things of great value. The treasures of the kingdom of God. Very clever of you to act like it is the irrational ramblings of a lunatic mind in need of medication. ITS TRADITION! But I just wanted to let you know that I noticed you slip some treasure into your purse. However I have withheld the best for last.

Brace yourself!

 

[irosie91]

Ha ha. I have revealed many things of great value. The treasures of the kingdom of God. Very clever of you to act like it is the irrational ramblings of a lunatic mind in need of medication. But I just wanted to let you know that I noticed you slip some treasure into your purse. However I have withheld the best for last. Brace yourself!

I am ALWAYS braced

 

[Cougarbear]

Lucifer has always been associated with the morning star except in Revelation where Jesus is identified as the morning star. This was an obvious hint from the authors that the Jesus you worship is the antichrist, a man who claimed to be a trinity, a mangod with all the powerful "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally.

If you need help to accept this TRUTH just kneel before me in fervent prayer and I will lay my hands upon you.

And you shall be healed.

You simply don't understand the language. What does "morning star" mean? By the definition, they both can be a morning star. The difference one fell out of favor with Father in Heaven and was banished. The other was revered by Father in Heaven and made a God. So simple to understand.

 

[irosie91]

You simply don't understand the language. What does "morning star" mean? By the definition, they both can be a morning star. The difference one fell out of favor with Father in Heaven and was banished. The other was revered by Father in Heaven and made a God. So simple to understand.

"made a 'god' " is not a universally accepted idea

 

[Cougarbear]

"made a 'god' " is not a universally accepted idea

That's because for about 1800 years, we were without a prophet or apostle to be learning and retaining that which Jesus taught. So, reason logically for a moment. May be hard for you. To have a "son" there needs to be made a child. That's when a women's egg is fertilized by a man's sperm. At that moment, a new life is formed or made. So, Jehovah was made into Jesus Christ. The Father knew this so what I said is appropriate. Also, we know that we have heavenly parents. God the Father has a wife. That's why he is a father. They had spirit children because from where they grew up, they were successful in their progression. So, even spiritually, Jehovah is also a "Son." And, you are a daughter of God.

 

[irosie91]

That's because for about 1800 years, we were without a prophet or apostle to be learning and retaining that which Jesus taught. So, reason logically for a moment. May be hard for you. To have a "son" there needs to be made a child. That's when a women's egg is fertilized by a man's sperm. At that moment, a new life is formed or made. So, Jehovah was made into Jesus Christ. The Father knew this so what I said is appropriate. Also, we know that we have heavenly parents. God the Father has a wife. That's why he is a father. They had spirit children because from where they grew up, they were successful in their progression. So, even spiritually, Jehovah is also a "Son." And, you are a daughter of God.

you're playing with words

 

[Cougarbear]

you're playing with words

I'm using words to develop logical conclusions. Words have meaning. This is why we call people brothers and sisters. We are literally brother and sisters because we are spirit children of Heavenly Father. Occam's Razor.

 

[irosie91]

I'm using words to develop logical conclusions. Words have meaning. This is why we call people brothers and sisters. We are literally brother and sisters because we are spirit children of Heavenly Father. Occam's Razor.

sophistry

 

[BreezeWood]

God the Father has a wife.

really doubt the togetherness on earth translates for an eternal relationship the same in the heavens ... as the exemplars were swingers, true love another noticeable anomaly of the 1st century appreciated by the heavens buried in 4th century christianity and its autocratic, frigid clergy.

 

[onefour1]

Job 38:3-7
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Obiviously there were more than one morning star.

 

[Cougarbear]

sophistry

I’ve given you several truths about this. Some in the Bible. Logic and reason isn’t sophistry. It’s truth. Except for irosie91

 

[Cougarbear]

really doubt the togetherness on earth translates for an eternal relationship the same in the heavens ... as the exemplars were swingers, true love another noticeable anomaly of the 1st century appreciated by the heavens buried in 4th century christianity and its autocratic, frigid clergy.

In the Bible it says “whatsoever is bound on earth is bound in heaven.” The key is to have the right authority to bind marriages for all eternity.

 

[irosie91]

I’ve given you several truths about this. Some in the Bible. Logic and reason isn’t sophistry. It’s truth. Except for irosie91

I fail to see the "logic"-------all mimsy were the borogroves......... "we are all brothers and sisters..."
makes sense to you?------sorry---my undergraduate major was biology----does not MEAN ANYTHING
to me besides not making sense

 

[Cougarbear]

I fail to see the "logic"-------all mimsy were the borogroves......... "we are all brothers and sisters..."
makes sense to you?------sorry---my undergraduate major was biology----does not MEAN ANYTHING
to me besides not making sense

To be a child you have to have a mother and a father. That’s logic and reason.

 

[irosie91]

To be a child you have to have a mother and a father. That’s logic and reason.

that's language-----you cannot determine who is THE FATHER by designating something or
someonw "child". A rosebush can "give birth" to a "child"------ask any gardener---they call them
SUCKERS----a sucker can became a rosebush and have lots of brothers and sister rosebushes