It's Happening Again - Homes Lost - Some Rent Control Needed

Are the landlords FORCING you to stay. Move the fuck out if you don't want to pay market rate. I am sure the landlord will replace your parasitic ass in one day.
There is no such thing as "market rate". That is a convenient notion created by and used by landlords to justify their rent GOUGING. What if your gas prices went up $500/month. Wanna call that market rate ?

Also, maybe it didn't occur to you in your nice comfortable life, but (already mentioned 10 times here) lots of people are NOT ABLE to move, and due to the housing saturation crisis going on now, there is nowhere to move to. Vacancies are long gone.

Again, greedy landlords are the parasites, not the renters.
 
You came here late, and things you're talking about have already been addressed earlier in the thread (repeatedly). Briefly, the US is not a purely capitalist country. It (since at least the 1930s) is a combination of capitalism and socialism. Rent control has been in effect in some cities in America for over 100 years.
Yes, I understand that rent controls have been around for a long time, but I didn't expect anything like 100 years.
But there is a distinct impression being conveyed by many that they are too few and too little.
However, I've tried to take the issue a little deeper by suggesting that rent controls aren't purely a capitalist response to the issue and that there are other solutions that are.

The best way I know of to investigate and challenge the problem is to look closely at instances where the problem (s) have been addressed and some success has resulted.

You can be assured that I believe capitalism can still work, but it has to come with qualifications. If you have an interest in discussing some ideas with me, I'm here to take part.
 
Gee! You're experiencing capitalism! Have you heard about supply and demand?

Is it fine the way it is or are you somehow hinting at the need for more control over the capitalist system?

If that happens, will it be socialism/communism or will it be dictatorial coming from government?

I wonder how Canada would handle your issue?

Gee! I have an idea!
I'm not "hinting" for control over the capitalist system, I am hollering for more control over a particular destructive aspect of the capitalist system, same as (previously mentioned), drug companies, automobile manufacturers, constriction companies have to conform to, and "Gee", they don't bitch about it, like the pansies in this thread are doing.
 
We need government control. Of everything. For our own good.
I don't know about "everything", but I just mentioned a number of industries that have government laws controlling them, and the level of housing prices sure needs to be in that category ( t least in Florida). No reason for the housing industry to be exempt from scrutiny and some degree of control, and BE ACCOUNTABLE for what they do , as other industries are. (while they unscrupulously and rudely claim their "market rate" should be their only point of reference)
 
No you don't. Even socialists don't want that. You want some control over capitalism. Just read C.A., the pissant's screeching where he believes the only option is to move somewhere else if rents are too high. How incredibly ignorant! But there's no way of reaching his sorry ass because he flies into a fit of rage when anybody tries to tell him anything.
who is C.A. ?
 
I don't know about "everything", but I just mentioned a number of industries that have government laws controlling them, and the level of housing prices sure needs to be in that category ( t least in Florida). No reason for the housing industry to be exempt from scrutiny and some degree of control, and BE ACCOUNTABLE for what they do , as other industries are. (while they unscrupulously and rudely claim their "market rate" should be their only point of reference)

Why not everything? If you think housing should be regulated to serve your interests, why not every other industry?
 
Who cares? Stop your whining.

Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch and life ain't fair.

Nobody owes you a damn thing. Go find another $500 a month apartment if you don't want to pay for the one you are living in.

If you or the other people can't afford a decent place to live then they should have worked harder and prepared for their retirement better.

I am a retiree on a fixed income that is being fucked by Biden's inflation so I have no sympathy for other people's whining. I also get screwed with higher taxes and higher fees for other things. That is life.

At least I have enough in 401K where I can make up for the lost in purchasing power but my children and grandchildren that would have inherited it will get screwed all because of bad government.
Thus isnt a question of anybody "oweing" anybody anything so you can stop trying to pass this off as a welfare thing., Be honest. is is a matter of an industry conducting itself in a way that is reasonably without HARM to the American people. Like doctors' first obligation. DO NO HARM.

As for "bad government" (just to bring us back to the TOPIC), that would be allowing landlords to let rents go so high, that a major % of the AMERICAN population cnnot pay them, while rich foreigners that Biden is dumping on us can pay them are they are doing just that.

Speaking of rent, today is Social Security direct deposit day, and I now have to go out and pay mine right now. Bye kids.
 
I'm not "hinting" for control over the capitalist system, I am hollering for more control over a particular destructive aspect of the capitalist system,
Alright, I maybe should have been more careful on how I worded my remarks
same as (previously mentioned), drug companies, automobile manufacturers, constriction companies have to conform to, and "Gee", they don't bitch about it, like the pansies in this thread are doing.
Sorry, I'm missing your point in that. I think you're saying that the supply side has to conform to the dictates of capitalism as practiced in your country. If so then that's getting right to the meat of the issue. Are there enough reasonable demands on the supply side or should there be more demands and maybe some new ones.

One issue that comes to mind and that is very destructive of the economy is allowing corporations to skip off to a foreign country where there are less demands to fulfill. Keeping in mind that preventing them from doing that would be a huge challenge to the capitalist system.
 
who is C.A. ?
Concerned American. His comments are useful because they represent the extreme and that provides this conversation a basis on what is expected at one extreme end.

I can't represent the other extreme end because I'm still a capitalist and not nearly a socialist. I really don't think we have a socialist on this forum that can fill the bill.
 
..................., while rich foreigners that Biden is dumping on us can pay them are they are doing just that.
Another brilliant example of a problem that maybe should or should not be addressed. Preventing very wealthy foreigners from driving real estate prices and rental prices up would be a direct kick in the teeth to the capitalist system!

But then everybody look closely to see if you are all of a sudden arguing on the wrong side?

The only question that arises out of that idea of Biden allowing wealthy foreigners, etc., etc. .........

And so what would happen if Biden made a move to curtail that? Does anyone have the courage to face that question?
 
Thus isnt a question of anybody "oweing" anybody anything so you can stop trying to pass this off as a welfare thing., Be honest. is is a matter of an industry conducting itself in a way that is reasonably without HARM to the American people. Like doctors' first obligation. DO NO HARM.

As for "bad government" (just to bring us back to the TOPIC), that would be allowing landlords to let rents go so high, that a major % of the AMERICAN population cnnot pay them, while rich foreigners that Biden is dumping on us can pay them are they are doing just that.

Speaking of rent, today is Social Security direct deposit day, and I now have to go out and pay mine right now. Bye kids.


You are afraid of the free market so you you want the friggin government to protect your sorry ass?

Go find another $500 a month apartment and stop your whining.

If you can't find one to your liking then tough shit.

You should have bought a home during the time when the prices were low and interest rates reasonable.

In retirement I live in a four bedroom home on a half acre of land, big garage, and a pool and my payments are just barely over $500/mo. In fact I have enough money in savings to easily pay off the mortgage but it is better to carry the mortgage and keep the money invested.

Don't go whining to us about your poor life choices.

Stop being a sorry shithead that thinks the government should force the people that invested in your apartment building to provide you with indirect welfare.
 
I AM a landlord right now, but I'm not a greed freak idiot, who charges unreasonable rents that I know people cant pay. If the greed freaks had an ounce of decency, they would do as I, and other respectable landlords do.
So you have been LYING this whole time. I was looking for alternatives for you. That is POS MOVE if you did this.

Are you a LANDLORD? As you just stated.
 
I AM a landlord right now, but I'm not a greed freak idiot, who charges unreasonable rents that I know people cant pay. If the greed freaks had an ounce of decency, they would do as I, and other respectable landlords do.

And having some level of rent control is not parasiting. Quite the contrary it is the astronomical rents that landlords are charging that is the parasiting (I have never repeated myself so much as in this weird thread)

Your "LEAVE" blabber is another thing that has already been addressed a number of times here- try reading the thread before posting.
Just reposting this for the record.
 
So you have been LYING this whole time. I was looking for alternatives for you. That is POS MOVE if you did this.

Are you a LANDLORD? As you just stated.
Protectionist is suggesting that rent prices can be controlled by goodwill of landlords. Or, he suggests too that he does so.
 
Protectionist is suggesting that rent prices can be controlled by goodwill of landlords. Or, he suggests too that he does so.
Landlords have an investment that they need to get the highest possible rate of return on. They are not in the business of running a charity.

If he wants free housing then he should go to a homeless shelter. If he wants a $500/mo apartment it looks like he will have to look elsewhere.
 
I AM a landlord right now, but I'm not a greed freak idiot, who charges unreasonable rents that I know people cant pay.
The rent you charge covers the cost of your mortgage. Correct? If not you're not considered a reasonable man by IRS standards. Because of this I assume that your rents cover your costs. Extrapolating that thought process out, if you were to sell your property, you would demand a fair market value as you should. What you don't seem to get is that the new owner now has a mortgage that costs him more (because you demanded fair market in the sale). Are you calling him "greedy" because he cares to recoup his costs? If you are, as you seem to be, you are an ignorant asshole. The world and society don't owe you a thing. If your rent increases--that's life. The landlord doesn't owe you a living or a place to stay or moving costs. Stand on your own two feet and quit looking for a free lunch. My goodness, are you really a commie after spending time in the armed forces?
 
Your "LEAVE" blabber is another thing that has already been addressed a number of times here- try reading the thread before posting.
If you keep repeating the same unsupportable claptrap, don't be surprised if you get the same logical answers. You also whined, "This isn't a about business and costs" Au contraire, slow one, that is EXACTLY what it is about. You are trying to deny a "business owner" a fair return on his investment while distributing the landlord's income to some parasitic deadbeat renter. If the shoe fits--put it on, moron.
 
What if your gas prices went up $500/month.
They did in the last ten months. I absorbed the cost. I didn't get fuel controls. If you are not lying--and I suspect you are, you are a landlord--so quit bitching and go live in your property.
that would be allowing landlords to let rents go so high, that a major % of the AMERICAN population cnnot pay them
Landlords cannot raise prices to the extent that a major % of Americans can't afford them, moron. That would be counter productive. A landlord would not raise rents any higher than the market will bear. Why would he leave his property empty and providing no return. Maybe you don't meet the IRS definition of a reasonable man. SMFH. You are incapable of understanding logic.
 

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