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It's Happening Again - Homes Lost - Some Rent Control Needed

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Why does buying a house have to require moving to another state?
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Record highs and lows to close out 2021​

The median home-sale price in Florida, hit a new all-time high as the number of homes for sale hit a new rock bottom—this, combined with potential uncertainty stemming from the omicron coronavirus variant, could fuel a competitive start to 2022.​
 
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You are confused Moon Bat. Conservatives don't want the friggin government telling them how to run their lives.

Capitalism isn't neither fair or unfair. It is market realism. Socialism is unfair because it uses the filthy government to steal from the productive to give to the unproductive.
You are who is confused. America is not capitalist. It is a COMBINATION of capitalism & socialism, and there are many things that conservatives LIKE about the Government (state & federal) telling us how to live our lives (ex. the 2nd Amendment, Mississippi abortion law, immigration laws when enforced by ICE, criminal laws enforced by police, 10 states which ban Affirmative Action, etc) We don't call the government "filthy" on these issues, do we ?

As for stealing, that just what SLEAZY rent-gouging landlords are doing right now.
 
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That's a silly claim. And not true at all.

Nope. I don't want government controlling society at all. The most novel and important premise of the US experiment is that it should work the other way around.
No government control "AT ALL" ? See post # 223.
 
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More than likely the fixed income he's on wasn't available near there or the VA found a foreclosure for him. The later probably the case.
VA realty co, says VA does not do home loans on foreclosures.
 
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Public housing and rent control.

Two liberal ideas that make things worse.
But not if YOU needed them. You're just a selfish creep who doesn't think outside of your own little box. Someday somebody will sue your greedy ass, and leave you with nothing. Then all your high & mighty ideas will be out the window.
 
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Some bad ideas never die.
Why is it bad ? Becasue sleazy greed freaks cant gouge renters and force them out of their homes. What if gas prices went to $100/gallon ? Wanna have gas price control ?
Sure you would, because YOU would be affected, Mr Hypocrite.
 
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Why not everything? If you think housing should be regulated to serve your interests, why not every other industry?
Form follows function. IF an industry needs to be regulated (to protect the public), it should be. Sometimes government goes too far and regulates too much. Donald Trump eliminated many business regulations. Most of them deserved to be eliminated, and Trump was right.

DeSantis and Biden are not doing their jobs, because housing in Florida, and the sleazeballs running it, right now NEEDS regulation, and they're not doing their jobs.
 
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Another brilliant example of a problem that maybe should or should not be addressed. Preventing very wealthy foreigners from driving real estate prices and rental prices up would be a direct kick in the teeth to the capitalist system!

But then everybody look closely to see if you are all of a sudden arguing on the wrong side?

The only question that arises out of that idea of Biden allowing wealthy foreigners, etc., etc. .........

And so what would happen if Biden made a move to curtail that? Does anyone have the courage to face that question?
Donald Trump faced it admirably for 4 years. When he left, our border was more secure than at any time since the 1950s. Biden is who created the current immigration train wreck.
 
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You are afraid of the free market so you you want the friggin government to protect your sorry ass?

Go find another $500 a month apartment and stop your whining.

If you can't find one to your liking then tough shit.

You should have bought a home during the time when the prices were low and interest rates reasonable.

In retirement I live in a four bedroom home on a half acre of land, big garage, and a pool and my payments are just barely over $500/mo. In fact I have enough money in savings to easily pay off the mortgage but it is better to carry the mortgage and keep the money invested.

Don't go whining to us about your poor life choices.

Stop being a sorry shithead that thinks the government should force the people that invested in your apartment building to provide you with indirect welfare.
Absolutely we are afraid of a free market. when a market is 1005 free, it can run roughshod over everybody and everything. No better example than the sleazey landlords free to destroy Florida's housing market just for their own personal greed

Yes I should/could have bough a home when prices were normal, but nobody anticipated the election fraud, Biden "winning" & Biden's open border lunacy and the resulting housing madness.

Rent control is not indirect welfare. It is more like laws against robbery, burglary,
 
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So you have been LYING this whole time. I was looking for alternatives for you. That is POS MOVE if you did this.

Are you a LANDLORD? As you just stated.
Yes, I have a small bit of land that I rent out for vehicle storage. That is, when I'm able to get renters.

And No, I haven't been lying about anything. How did you come up with that ? :dunno:
 
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Landlords have an investment that they need to get the highest possible rate of return on. They are not in the business of running a charity.

If he wants free housing then he should go to a homeless shelter. If he wants a $500/mo apartment it looks like he will have to look elsewhere.
Keeping rents affordable enough so that AMERICANS can pay them, and not just a bunch of Biden's rich foreigner migrants, is not "running a charity". It is doing things in such a way that Americans are protected, same as when construction companies use materials expensive enough that they are safe to keep their buildings from collapsing.

Same as when drug companies spend money on research to ensure that their drugs are not harmful. Same as when car manufacturers up the cost (and thereby lower the sales) of their cars by providing safety features.

These things are done to PROTECT (notice my display name ?) the American people, same as rent control is done to protect Americans from rent gougers.

PS - the point of reference in this thread is renters being faced with exhorbitant rent increases, not landlords.
 
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The rent you charge covers the cost of your mortgage. Correct? If not you're not considered a reasonable man by IRS standards. Because of this I assume that your rents cover your costs. Extrapolating that thought process out, if you were to sell your property, you would demand a fair market value as you should. What you don't seem to get is that the new owner now has a mortgage that costs him more (because you demanded fair market in the sale). Are you calling him "greedy" because he cares to recoup his costs? If you are, as you seem to be, you are an ignorant asshole. The world and society don't owe you a thing. If your rent increases--that's life. The landlord doesn't owe you a living or a place to stay or moving costs. Stand on your own two feet and quit looking for a free lunch. My goodness, are you really a commie after spending time in the armed forces?
NOT correct. I have no costs on the land that I rent for vehicle storage.

HA HA. "recoup his cost ?" :puhleeze: These landlords were making a mint when rents were a fraction of what they are now. These sleazy thieves are just taking advantage of Biden's airlifts of migrants, and the dumps of them into Florida, jacking up the population, and sudden demand for housing, with no attention to the good of the communities they are in.

You talk like a total jerk. Rent control laws are designed to PROTECT the public. By your warped "logic", we could well be without laws against murder and rape, and if that happens to you, then "that's life".

The landlord doesn't sell pencils, guitars, or books. He sells a product that involves PEOPLE in a fundamental survival scenario. As such, he needs to be responsive to the needs of those people whose lives he holds in his hands. That is just common sense and decency. And let's not forget all the OTHER BUSINESSES which are being
smashed with sales drops, from the new sky high housing costs.

If he doesn't want that responsibility, than let him sell pencils, guitars, or books. But as long as he involves himself into the # 1 element of human survival (shelter), according to anthropologists), than he must be held accountable for the quality of that.

Rent control is not a "free lunch". Stop trying to pass it off as welfare thing. People who rent, are paying their way perfectly fine. Just because they are not willing to pay $1400/month for a 1 bedroom apartment, doesn't mean they are looking for a free lunch. Stop talking stupid.

And you can quit with the "commie" bullshit too. The US has been long been a combination of capitalism AND socialism, including rent control laws for over 100 years.
 
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If you keep repeating the same unsupportable claptrap, don't be surprised if you get the same logical answers. You also whined, "This isn't a about business and costs" Au contraire, slow one, that is EXACTLY what it is about. You are trying to deny a "business owner" a fair return on his investment while distributing the landlord's income to some parasitic deadbeat renter. If the shoe fits--put it on, moron.
OMG! Are all the intelligent people in this forum reading this, believing their eyes ?

Good grief! :puhleeze: "a fair return on his investment" YIKES!! Never have I seen such a totally outrageous UNFAIR return on an investment. Here's a better description of it >> HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!!!!

moron........:slap:
 
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They did in the last ten months. I absorbed the cost. I didn't get fuel controls.
Landlords cannot raise prices to the extent that a major % of Americans can't afford them, moron. That would be counter productive. A landlord would not raise rents any higher than the market will bear. Why would he leave his property empty and providing no return. Maybe you don't meet the IRS definition of a reasonable man. SMFH. You are incapable of understanding logic.

They didn't go up $500/month. They went up a lot , but nit that much. Well what if gas prices went to $500/gallon ? You like being gouged ?
Hey Dum dum. Are you home ? Are you following what's going on here ?

YOU are the moron. Landlords ARE raising prices to WAAAAAAAY above what a major % of Americans can afford. That is the basis if this whole thread, that we are now 237 posts into (have you been following this?)

You missed the part about the POPULATION EXPLOSION in Florida ? What the market will bear is changing, and causing major socialogical change - ie. major housng saturation/shortage
 

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Redfin

Record highs and lows to close out 2021​

The median home-sale price in Florida, hit a new all-time high as the number of homes for sale hit a new rock bottom—this, combined with potential uncertainty stemming from the omicron coronavirus variant, could fuel a competitive start to 2022.​

Moving to another state is not required
 

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Absolutely we are afraid of a free market. when a market is 1005 free, it can run roughshod over everybody and everything. No better example than the sleazey landlords free to destroy Florida's housing market just for their own personal greed

Yes I should/could have bough a home when prices were normal, but nobody anticipated the election fraud, Biden "winning" & Biden's open border lunacy and the resulting housing madness.

Rent control is not indirect welfare. It is more like laws against robbery, burglary,

So move to a HUD property.. That what it's for.
 

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Keeping rents affordable enough so that AMERICANS can pay them, and not just a bunch of Biden's rich foreigner migrants, is not "running a charity". It is doing things in such a way that Americans are protected, same as when construction companies use materials expensive enough that they are safe to keep their buildings from collapsing.

Same as when drug companies spend money on research to ensure that their drugs are not harmful. Same as when car manufacturers up the cost (and thereby lower the sales) of their cars by providing safety features.

These things are done to PROTECT (notice my display name ?) the American people, same as rent control is done to protect Americans from rent gougers.

PS - the point of reference in this thread is renters being faced with exhorbitant rent increases, not landlords.
I can afford to pay my cost of housing.

If you can't afford yours then tough shit. Go be poor some place else.
 

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