It seems so long ago, I had almost forgotten.


Um. Yes they sort of did. The loser of the election Became the VP. Why else did they have to amend the Constitution so soon? They realized that doesn't work in the real world.

The (12th) amendment was proposed after the 1796 election resulted in a president (John Adams) and vice president (Thomas Jefferson) from opposing parties, and the 1800 election led to a tie between Jefferson and Aaron Burr. They were members of the same party (Democratic-Republican), but it took the House of Representatives 36 contentious ballots to break the tie, electing Jefferson president and Burr vice president. In 1804, Jefferson was re-elected and George Clinton became the first vice president under the 12th Amendment.

 
Really? WTF did the Founders have in mind? The winner share half the office with the loser?

Dumbass.
actually, the original vice President was the person that got the second most electoral votes. Then when they realized that didn't work they amended the Constitution.
 



BTW, where is the replacement for the ACA that trump has promised for years?
Again, the other side sabotaging is been going on for decades, just like trying to make the opposition a one termer, this whole notion of Obama is a victim is nonsense.

As far as Trump’s replacement? I don’t care, I didn’t vote for him, he is no better than Obama, they make stupid promises they can’t possibly keep, walk in with strange ideas with no idea how it will work amd then we get a mess, like not being able to keep your plan or your doctor. As far as the economics with insurance companies, I don’t blame them for opting out and again, that wasn’t the Republicans, that was economics, if you can’t make money, you find a way to stop losing money. How many times has your employer told you you need to take less money and you said, sure.
 
"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Then he shouldn’t have said it, tight? It was divisive, even Democrat pundits said it as well, perception is everything.
 
actually, the original vice President was the person that got the second most electoral votes. Then when they realized that didn't work they amended the Constitution.
Yep. But that doesn't mean the VP gets half the decisions.
 
I just asked you who in the Democratic Party is running their mouth, saying that Harris won the 2024 election? Are you slow?

Imbeciles in right wing media say that Trump won the 2020 election every single ******* day. Who on the left is saying that Harris won the 2024 election?

You're intellectually lazy and you can't back up the stupid shit that you say.
you jumped into a conversation that had nothing to do with her.....i was commenting on this ...The world has never seen anything like the right wing propaganda machine. ......and i said yes they have its called the left wing propaganda machine...your the one bringing harris into this...
 
you jumped into a conversation that had nothing to do with her.....i was commenting on this ...The world has never seen anything like the right wing propaganda machine. ......and i said yes they have its called the left wing propaganda machine...your the one bringing harris into this...
And I just explained how you are wrong. You're obviously not very bright. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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BTW, where is the replacement for the ACA that trump has promised for years?
ACA/Obamcare was flawed from the outset/conception. :rolleyes:
 


As is his want, he spoke about human dignity, mutual respect, the democratic ideals that bind us, and the values we share as Americans. In so doing I was reminded of what this country was and aspired to be. Something from which we are on what I hope is only a brief hiatus, but worry we are not. What a contrast from our current situation.

Unfortunately, it also brought back memories of how much he was loathed. And in some circles still is. Despite the impeccably civil, ethical, contemplative, mature, forward thinking nature of his presidency. We sure could use some of that right now.

He was the first president in US history to sabotage the incoming president. What he did was unforgivable. Super scummy and completely unamerican.
 
Are we the country that elected Obama or the one that elected trump? Or something in between?
One major party runs amok and is empowered from the crazies now. The other let it happen and helped it along. We even see things like the voting act legislation tied down from the Congress. Progressives are now running admitted Communists for office. Always remember the peak of where they are.
 
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yea they have....its called the left wing propaganda machine....
Not at all. I think it pales in comparison to what the RW Echo-Chamber has morphed into in our Mega-Tainment Multimedia Circus. They're trying to catch up though........
 
how can i be wrong about harris when i never mentioned her?...
Trump and right-wing media say virtually every day that Trump won the 2020 election. An obvious lie.

Nobody in left-wing media says that Harris won the 2024 election.

Therefore, it's really stupid for you to say that the "left-wing propaganda machine" is as bad as the right-wing propaganda machine. Not even close.
 
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