It is a scandal of the magnitude that would ordinarily define a presidency.

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An act of subservience by Senate Repubs on a scale of the two impeachment acquittals when they simply ignored overwhelming evidence of trump's guilt. When dealing with a potentially career threatening political scandal, there is a standard playbook trump's team has used repeatedly. Issue a broad denial. Attack the accuser. Then declare the controversy over and tell everyone to move on.

Bove was involved in not one but three incidents while working at the DoJ worthy of disciplinary action and dismissal. First, he supervised the unjustified firing of DoJ and FBI officials who participated in investigations of trump's crimes as well as though of the violent criminals involved in the j6 riot.

Trump administration fires prosecutors involved in Jan. 6 cases and moves toward ousting FBI agents​


Secondly...........Bove pressured top prosecutors in the US attorneys office in Manhattan to drop the case against Eric Adams. He claimed that the charges had been brought by an overzealous U.S. attorney appointed by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., and he argued that the case would hinder Mr. Adams’s capacity to cooperate with the White House on immigration enforcement.

The Trump-appointed interim U.S. attorney in Manhattan, Danielle R. Sassoon, resigned rather than sign off on Mr. Bove’s command. Other career prosecutors in the public integrity section resigned rather than accede to his demands.


One of the whistleblowers to come forward has provided audio tapes proving Bove perjured himself during his sworn congressional confirmation testimony. That incident included Bove offering promotions to anyone who would go before a judge in the southern district of NY and ask for charges against Adams to be dismissed.

Whistleblowers cite evidence against Bove​

Democrats have also cited evidence from whistleblowers, a fired department lawyer who said last month that Bove had suggested the Trump administration may need to ignore judicial commands — a claim that Bove deniesand new evidence from a whistleblower who did not go public. That whistleblower recently provided an audio recording of Bove that runs contrary to some of his testimony at his confirmation hearing last month, according to two people familiar with the recording.

The audio is from a private video conference call at the Department of Justice in February in which Bove, a top official at the department, discussed his handling of the dismissed case against Adams, according to transcribed quotes from the audio reviewed by The Associated Press.


Finally, there's......

Trump judicial nominee suggested ignoring court orders on deportations, whistleblower claims​


.........an accusation the whistleblower substantiated by providing text messages proving Bove did exactly what he claimed he did.

Does Bove possess the qualifications of a person nominated for a powerful position on the appellate court? Arguably yes, based on his time as a federal prosecutor. Is he fit to serve in that capacity. The unequivocal answer is no. Because he has so brazenly violated laws he has sworn to uphold.

What now? Declare the controversy over and tell everyone to move on of course. And that's what will happen. Move on to the next scandal, and the next one, and the one after that. It's what autocratic governments do.
 
So many terrible things have happened since Sassoon resigned it's easy to forget it.......and why she did it.

Order to Drop Adams Case Prompts Resignations in New York and Washington​

Manhattan’s U.S. attorney on Thursday resigned rather than obey an order from a top Justice Department official to drop the corruption case against New York City’s mayor, Eric Adams.

Then, when Justice Department officials transferred the case to the public integrity section in Washington, which oversees corruption prosecutions, the two men who led that unit also resigned, according to five people with knowledge of the matter.

Several hours later, three other lawyers in the unit also resigned, according to people familiar with the developments.

The serial resignations represent the most high-profile public opposition so far to President Trump’s tightening control over the Justice Department. They were a stunning repudiation of the administration’s attempt to force the dismissal of the charges against Mr. Adams.


Just the other day a trump fan started a thread about all of trump's victories. I suppose in trumpworld Bove's confirmation is counted as one. Yet it is undeniably a loss for the country...........as so many of trump's "victories" are.
 
An act of subservience by Senate Repubs on a scale of the two impeachment acquittals when they simply ignored overwhelming evidence of trump's guilt. When dealing with a potentially career threatening political scandal, there is a standard playbook trump's team has used repeatedly. Issue a broad denial. Attack the accuser. Then declare the controversy over and tell everyone to move on.

Bove was involved in not one but three incidents while working at the DoJ worthy of disciplinary action and dismissal. First, he supervised the unjustified firing of DoJ and FBI officials who participated in investigations of trump's crimes as well as though of the violent criminals involved in the j6 riot.

Trump administration fires prosecutors involved in Jan. 6 cases and moves toward ousting FBI agents​


Secondly...........Bove pressured top prosecutors in the US attorneys office in Manhattan to drop the case against Eric Adams. He claimed that the charges had been brought by an overzealous U.S. attorney appointed by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., and he argued that the case would hinder Mr. Adams’s capacity to cooperate with the White House on immigration enforcement.

The Trump-appointed interim U.S. attorney in Manhattan, Danielle R. Sassoon, resigned rather than sign off on Mr. Bove’s command. Other career prosecutors in the public integrity section resigned rather than accede to his demands.


One of the whistleblowers to come forward has provided audio tapes proving Bove perjured himself during his sworn congressional confirmation testimony. That incident included Bove offering promotions to anyone who would go before a judge in the southern district of NY and ask for charges against Adams to be dismissed.

Whistleblowers cite evidence against Bove​

Democrats have also cited evidence from whistleblowers, a fired department lawyer who said last month that Bove had suggested the Trump administration may need to ignore judicial commands — a claim that Bove deniesand new evidence from a whistleblower who did not go public. That whistleblower recently provided an audio recording of Bove that runs contrary to some of his testimony at his confirmation hearing last month, according to two people familiar with the recording.

The audio is from a private video conference call at the Department of Justice in February in which Bove, a top official at the department, discussed his handling of the dismissed case against Adams, according to transcribed quotes from the audio reviewed by The Associated Press.


Finally, there's......

Trump judicial nominee suggested ignoring court orders on deportations, whistleblower claims​


.........an accusation the whistleblower substantiated by providing text messages proving Bove did exactly what he claimed he did.

Does Bove possess the qualifications of a person nominated for a powerful position on the appellate court? Arguably yes, based on his time as a federal prosecutor. Is he fit to serve in that capacity. The unequivocal answer is no. Because he has so brazenly violated laws he has sworn to uphold.

What now? Declare the controversy over and tell everyone to move on of course. And that's what will happen. Move on to the next scandal, and the next one, and the one after that. It's what autocratic governments do.
This constant blitz of law-breaking, rule-breaking, norm-breaking, honesty-breaking and decency-breaking has been incredibly successful. "Flooding the zone", as Steve Bannon puts it. He knows that you can't have much success catching many raindrops in a hurricane.

Standards are gone. Floors have been removed. Rules are pointless. Norms and decency are mocked as weakness.

Do we recover from this? I don't know. These people are in a war, they're on a literal spiritual crusade. An American Jihad. Each day that this remains the norm, lowers the chance we'll survive it intact. But we're in rapid decay right now -- disguised as bringing order -- no doubt about it.

Most of America didn't know on 9/11 that those jihadis were at war with us. We didn't see it until the damage had been done.
 
This constant blitz of law-breaking, rule-breaking, norm-breaking, honesty-breaking and decency-breaking has been incredibly successful. "Flooding the zone", as Steve Bannon puts it. He knows that you can't have much success catching many raindrops in a hurricane.

Standards are gone. Floors have been removed. Rules are pointless. Norms and decency are mocked as weakness.

Do we recover from this? I don't know. These people are in a war, they're on a literal spiritual crusade. An American Jihad. Each day that this remains the norm, lowers the chance we'll survive it intact. But we're in rapid decay right now -- disguised as bringing order -- no doubt about it.

Most of America didn't know on 9/11 that those jihadis were at war with us. We didn't see it until the damage had been done.
It will take quite some time to assess the damage trumpery has inflicted on the country and our collective psyche. I'd like to believe a full recovery is possible, but I don't.
 
It will take quite some time to assess the damage trumpery has inflicted on the country and our collective psyche. I'd like to believe a full recovery is possible, but I don't.
Nope, this country has got to come to grips of the realization that the demented LEFT have been undermining the President AND the will of the American People for the last ******* TEN YEARS, not to mention the last ONE HUNDRED YEARS.
These Marxist contaminated IDIOTS have been chipping away our culture, edu, media, and governance for a freaking CENTURY.
It all maxed out with the election of the Marxist Magic Negro Obama who promised FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE.
Well, the American People have woken up, and have made it clear that WE DON'T WANT THEM OR THEIR MARXIST BULLSHIT.
**** off, Stalinberg.
**** YOU and every other demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed zombie ASSHOLES.
Time to go, GET OUT!!!!!!!!
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Standards are gone. Floors have been removed. Rules are pointless. Norms and decency are mocked as weakness.
The difficulty being there is no reward in attempting to maintain some degree of adherence to the way things were done in the past, to not stoop to their level, when........metaphorically speaking.........the tanks are rolling down main street.
 
The difficulty being there is no reward in attempting to maintain some degree of adherence to the way things were done in the past, to not stoop to their level, when........metaphorically speaking.........the tanks are rolling down main street.
All you Marxist HACKS should be HANGED on Main Street light posts!!!!! ☠️
 
The difficulty being there is no reward in attempting to maintain some degree of adherence to the way things were done in the past, to not stoop to their level, when........metaphorically speaking.........the tanks are rolling down main street.
The template is being followed amazingly well. All the way down to the "useful idiots". I just assumed the template had been broken, shattered, 90 years ago. I guess not. We're now seeing it in a few places.

"They know not what they do".
 
The template is being followed amazingly well. All the way down to the "useful idiots". I just assumed the template had been broken, shattered, 90 years ago. I guess not. We're now seeing it in a few places.

"They know not what they do".
That's some industrial strength gaslighting there, Mac.
Damn.
 
The template is being followed amazingly well. All the way down to the "useful idiots". I just assumed the template had been broken, shattered, 90 years ago. I guess not. We're now seeing it in a few places.

"They know not what they do".
The visceral emotions leading to a willingness to support authoritarian governance are inherent to the nature of some people all over the world. All it took to bring them out in a minority of Americans was a manipulative narcissist with a dark vision for the US and the world.
 
Boring Bugger 86 .
In his way just as obsessive and dreary as IQ-2.0 .

Another old and disadvantaged old man who is no longer capable of standing up straight.

See Mucky Bum is in short supply .
Is the strain of being both too much for you Bugger?
 
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The visceral emotions leading to a willingness to support authoritarian governance are inherent to the nature of some people all over the world. All it took to bring them out in a minority of Americans was a manipulative narcissist with a dark vision for the US and the world.
♨️GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT♨️
 
The visceral emotions leading to a willingness to support authoritarian governance are inherent to the nature of some people all over the world. All it took to bring them out in a minority of Americans was a manipulative narcissist with a dark vision for the US and the world.
The emotions that work the best for the template are hopelessness and desperation, see Europe, 1930's.

In our case, though, the hopelessness and desperation are the result of decades of manipulation and self-inflicted wounds. They breathlessly support the very people who played such a profound role in their own misery and paranoia.

It's exasperating, that's for sure. And Europe is every bit as exasperated about this as we are. They can see what's happening, clearly.
 
The emotions that work the best for the template are hopelessness and desperation
I think I would add nationalism to the short list. The rise of the Right in Europe currently being the result of the migration of Muslim refugees out of the ME. In the US, immigration at the southern border and the lies about the threat it poses being used as the thing triggering so many trumples. Authoritarians have always used perceived external threats and hatred towards "the other" to amass power.

To bring it back to the thread's subject matter, I was naive enough to think the requisite number of Repubs would object to Bove because he is so transparently unfit. I constantly underestimate their willingness to do anything trump wants in order to stay out of his crosshairs and keep their jobs.
 
I constantly underestimate their willingness to do anything trump wants in order to stay out of his crosshairs and keep their jobs.
Yeah, I think that's a done deal at this point. This is now essentially a Mafia family, and you do not anger the Boss. Period.

Not unlike Russia.
 
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