Israeli Style Democracy

[montelatici]

I have no problem with you. You make it clear that Israel is not a democracy and that it is a theocracy.

If that was the situation, then no Muslim figure was to participate in the Knesset.

You realize and know that what you say isn't true, yet you keep repeating it in pure intent to provoke. That's called trollism.

There were non-whites in the parliament of South Africa, as long as they agreed to support white rule and the white state. No one considered it a full democracy, it was a racial/ethnic democracy, based on white rule.

To claim Israel is not a theocratic democracy is ridiculous. Israelis and their supporters cannot contemplate any other rule but the rule by people of the Jewish religion.

Facts are facts. Why deny them?

In addition, no country that bases citizenship on religious affiliation (e.g. right of return), holds access to land on a religious basis among other can be considered secular.

To you, anyone who states the facts which disagree with your propaganda is a troll. In fact, you are the troll constantly parroting Zionist/Israeli propaganda.

As far as Israel, even those that praise and support Israel and hold it up as an example, know it is a theocratic democracy.

"Egyptians can look to Israel as an example of a mature theocratic democracy. True, most Israelis (and, indeed, most Jews) do not think of Israel as a theocratic democracy—but take a closer look.

Nachman ben Yehuda, in his recently published Theocratic Democracy, makes a compelling case. Judaism has official status in Israel through its monopoly on the legalization of marriage and divorce. Moreover, it’s Orthodox Judaism that enjoys special status, controls the institutions of the Chief Rabbinates, and makes and enforces law on marriage and divorce. Other branches of Judaism—the Conservative and Reform wings—enjoy no comparable status. There is not even token recognition in law of religious pluralism for Jewish citizens.....Special treatment of ultra-Orthodox Jews carries over to the most basic demand of the state on its citizens: military service. Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben Gurion, exempted those who studied in yeshivot from compulsory military service.....Theocratic democracies are all about balance. How much space they make for democratic rights determines the course of their future. In Israel, there is significant space. But those who ignore the theocratic elements of Israel’s democracy do so at their peril."

How To Build A Theocratic Democracy - The Daily Beast

 

[Challenger]

60% of Jewish people worldwide seem to disagree with you. 0/4

Besides of course that it a lie, 95% of the Jews worldwide supports Israel.. if you want the Jewish opinion so bad.

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

60% of Jewish people worldwide seem to disagree with you. 0/4

Besides of course that it a lie, 95% of the Jews worldwide supports Israel.. if you want the Jewish opinion so bad.

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

Well of course the people of the Gaza strip want to be there, it's their land from which they were dispossessed by you Zionist immigrants.

So it makes Hanin Zoabi a traitor after all, and Israel maintain excellency with the latest constitutional bill since Gaza does not belong to Israel, the Gazans can dream all they want about Israel.. it was them who forced us to leave in the first place, now they are dealing with themselves..if you will pay attention you'll notice that your argument makes no sense at all, you have no point or evidence to base your claims, and you are absolutely off the logical thinking process, I say go for anti psychotics just to ease all this anger and frustration you feel while reading this, clearly you feel stupid and ridiculous losing to 'A JOOOOO'

I might do, if I could understand this garbled mess of a post. It's clear English is not your first language as you're lapsing into babble. Calm down and start again, what are you trying to say?

 

[Lipush]

"Chauvinistic Society"?? Wow, you're cluless. Israel is the only state in the MidEast which has strict rules of women in the Knesset, and the elected party is often judged by how many seats are filled by women.

I can also throw idiotic slogans in the air. It won't make me smarter.

Have no worries about you getting smarter Lip, that is an impossibility...

In America we allow dissent as long as it is peaceful, stifling lawmakers is fascism, not Democracy...

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

 

[Challenger]

...Israel is supposed to be "better than that".

Why? Who says?

They do.

Except in matters of existential danger, quite likely. But that's up to them to decide.

What existential danger? A few fireworks from Gaza? Hizbullah, who are more interested in getting SAM and ATGW systems to protect themselves from Zionist aggression than the Aircraft Tanks, IFVs and Artillery that would be necessary to invade Israel, Syria? Please! Israel deliberately scaremongers for the benefit of the gullable.

 

[Challenger]

Have no worries about you getting smarter Lip, that is an impossibility...

In America we allow dissent as long as it is peaceful, stifling lawmakers is fascism, not Democracy...

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

There are those who disagree:

The Israeli Left Implodes

 

[Kondor3]

...Israel is supposed to be "better than that".

Why? Who says?

They do.

Except in matters of existential danger, quite likely. But that's up to them to decide.

What existential danger? A few fireworks from Gaza? Hizbullah, who are more interested in getting SAM and ATGW systems to protect themselves from Zionist aggression than the Aircraft Tanks, IFVs and Artillery that would be necessary to invade Israel, Syria? Please! Israel deliberately scaremongers for the benefit of the gullable.

Your attempts to minimize the danger to Israel posed by internal fifth-columnists, on behalf of the barbarians outside the gates, does not lessen the reality of that danger.

That goes double for those fifth-columnists who would seek to obtain political power within the Israeli political framework.

So, from time to time, the Israelis undertake an exercise in exclusion, to keep such hostile folk from attaining such power.

In this case, the 'existential danger' is a long-term possibility rather than an existing threat.

A matter of pulling the claws of a wildcat before it can do any damage - before it can become an existential danger - call it "preemption".

Understandable, given their circumstances.

And nothing to do with the US, the UK, the EU, et al.

 

[Daniyel]

Besides of course that it a lie, 95% of the Jews worldwide supports Israel.. if you want the Jewish opinion so bad.

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

Besides of course that it a lie, 95% of the Jews worldwide supports Israel.. if you want the Jewish opinion so bad.

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

Well of course the people of the Gaza strip want to be there, it's their land from which they were dispossessed by you Zionist immigrants.

So it makes Hanin Zoabi a traitor after all, and Israel maintain excellency with the latest constitutional bill since Gaza does not belong to Israel, the Gazans can dream all they want about Israel.. it was them who forced us to leave in the first place, now they are dealing with themselves..if you will pay attention you'll notice that your argument makes no sense at all, you have no point or evidence to base your claims, and you are absolutely off the logical thinking process, I say go for anti psychotics just to ease all this anger and frustration you feel while reading this, clearly you feel stupid and ridiculous losing to 'A JOOOOO'

I might do, if I could understand this garbled mess of a post. It's clear English is not your first language as you're lapsing into babble. Calm down and start again, what are you trying to say?

That for someone with fluent English you are stupid, and your grammar is just helping me making that point.

 

[pbel]

Have no worries about you getting smarter Lip, that is an impossibility...

In America we allow dissent as long as it is peaceful, stifling lawmakers is fascism, not Democracy...

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

Have no worries about you getting smarter Lip, that is an impossibility...

In America we allow dissent as long as it is peaceful, stifling lawmakers is fascism, not Democracy...

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

Have no worries about you getting smarter Lip, that is an impossibility...

In America we allow dissent as long as it is peaceful, stifling lawmakers is fascism, not Democracy...

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

The only reason Leftists are part of your problem, is because we are better educated and almost always more knowledgeable and able to see the direction of Humanity to avoid all war...Rightists like yourself are more war-like and still believe in the "survival of the fittest" in some survival camp!

 

[Challenger]

`

...Israel is supposed to be "better than that".

Why? Who says?

They do.

Except in matters of existential danger, quite likely. But that's up to them to decide.

What existential danger? A few fireworks from Gaza? Hizbullah, who are more interested in getting SAM and ATGW systems to protect themselves from Zionist aggression than the Aircraft Tanks, IFVs and Artillery that would be necessary to invade Israel, Syria? Please! Israel deliberately scaremongers for the benefit of the gullable.

Your attempts to minimize the danger to Israel posed by internal fifth-columnists, on behalf of the barbarians outside the gates, does not lessen the reality of that danger.

That goes double for those fifth-columnists who would seek to obtain political power within the Israeli political framework.

So, from time to time, the Israelis undertake an exercise in exclusion, to keep such hostile folk from attaining such power.

In this case, the 'existential danger' is a long-term possibility rather than an existing threat.

A matter of pulling the claws of a wildcat before it can do any damage - before it can become an existential danger - call it "preemption".

Understandable, given their circumstances.

And nothing to do with the US, the UK, the EU, et al.

Fifth-columnists? Barbarians at the gates?! Balrogs in the woodpile? Paranoid delusions are not existential threats.

 

[Challenger]

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

You said, "Which is why everyone wants to be here" whatever they may allegedly think and your % is probably far lower than you claim, they still vote with their feet and chose to live anywhere but Israel.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

Well of course the people of the Gaza strip want to be there, it's their land from which they were dispossessed by you Zionist immigrants.

So it makes Hanin Zoabi a traitor after all, and Israel maintain excellency with the latest constitutional bill since Gaza does not belong to Israel, the Gazans can dream all they want about Israel.. it was them who forced us to leave in the first place, now they are dealing with themselves..if you will pay attention you'll notice that your argument makes no sense at all, you have no point or evidence to base your claims, and you are absolutely off the logical thinking process, I say go for anti psychotics just to ease all this anger and frustration you feel while reading this, clearly you feel stupid and ridiculous losing to 'A JOOOOO'

I might do, if I could understand this garbled mess of a post. It's clear English is not your first language as you're lapsing into babble. Calm down and start again, what are you trying to say?

That for someone with fluent English you are stupid, and your grammar is just helping me making that point.

Whatever. So I'll take that as an admission that you were just babbling and wasn't contributing anything of substance. Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[Lipush]

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

Hanin Zuabi is not peaceful, and her actions were proved to be traitorous to the state multiple times.

So please, enlighten me, why should Israel allow a traitor to be in the Knesset.

Arab MK Zoabi insists she has never supported armed struggle against Israel - National - Israel News Haaretz
\“I have never called for support of an armed struggle,” Zoabi said in an affidavit. “I have never supported an armed struggle. I have never written an article supporting an armed struggle, and I have never given a speech supporting such a struggle.”

Yet she was on the Flotilla, where they beat up and almost kidnapped a soldier. That was an act of violence.

Well was she tried and convicted of a crime? Provide a Link
..

She wasn't. And that's part of the problem. If you're leftist you can do whatever you want.

The only reason Leftists are part of your problem, is because we are better educated and almost always more knowledgeable and able to see the direction of Humanity to avoid all war...Rightists like yourself are more war-like and still believe in the "survival of the fittest" in some survival camp!

Leftists like you are often much more snobish than others, who are so liberal they're positive that anyone that isn't with their camp is uneducated and illitirate. so much for being "enlightened"

Typical.

Unfortunatly for you, I happen to be very well educated. And I also happen to know who the real enemy is.

When is your turn?

 

[Daniyel]

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

We are not holding anyone,actually it would be better off without the Muslim societies you evaded before(typically) and the people of Gaza WANTS TO BE HERE, no question about that, point is nobody wants them except the gullible Europeans which are busy learning their own lessons.

Well of course the people of the Gaza strip want to be there, it's their land from which they were dispossessed by you Zionist immigrants.

So it makes Hanin Zoabi a traitor after all, and Israel maintain excellency with the latest constitutional bill since Gaza does not belong to Israel, th, Gazans can dream all they want about Israel.. it was them who forced us to leave in the first place, now they are dealing with themselves..if you will pay attention you'll notice that your argument makes no sense at all, you have no point or evidence to base your claims, and you are absolutely off the logical thinking process, I say go for anti psychotics just to ease all this anger and frustration you feel while reading this, clearly you feel stupid and ridiculous losing to 'A JOOOOO'

I might do, if I could understand this garbled mess of a post. It's clear English is not your first language as you're lapsing into babble. Calm down and start again, what are you trying to say?

That for someone with fluent English you are stupid, and your grammar is just helping me making that point.

Whatever. So I'll take that as an admission that you were just babbling and wasn't contributing anything of substance. Thanks for clarifying that.

Of course you will and we all know its because you are a moron with reading comprehension issues..like the rest of Team Palestine, you clowns insist to win the argument so bad you can't even think straight anymore..like most leftists you are trying to turn the fire off the debate and towards me, that's for sure your only card left since you continue to evade getting to the bottom line - only trying to drag this to be anything personal, how low of you.. you are wrong and you are too arrogant to admit it, you're just another clown patronizing with grammar and anonymity, no point talking to you since I've learned all I had to learn about you, ignored.


P.S. You can think of it as you were part of Zionist conspiracy, cheers.

 

[Kondor3]

...Fifth-columnists? Barbarians at the gates?! ... Paranoid delusions are not existential threats.

Muslim-Arab fifth-columnists, within the State of Israel, hostile to or acting against the interests of Israel, and on behalf of their ethnic brethren and co-religionist Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the Rump Palestine (the barbarians at the gates) are quite real, rather than paranoid delusion, and, if allowed to gain a modicum of political power and to ingratiate themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, they do, indeed, represent a future existential threat to the State of Israel, and are dealt with accordingly, by denying them such power.

It's called 'preemption' - putting a barrier in the way of an aspiring politically-minded fifth-columnist (Rump Palestine sympathizer), before he-or-she can attain political office and/or position in order to undertake mischief on behalf of their co-religionists in Rump Palestine (Gaza, and the West Bank).

 

[montelatici]

The Boers tried that too.

 

[Challenger]

...Fifth-columnists? Barbarians at the gates?! ... Paranoid delusions are not existential threats.

Muslim-Arab fifth-columnists, within the State of Israel, hostile to or acting against the interests of Israel, and on behalf of their ethnic brethren and co-religionist Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the Rump Palestine (the barbarians at the gates) are quite real, rather than paranoid delusion, and, if allowed to gain a modicum of political power and to ingratiate themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, they do, indeed, represent a future existential threat to the State of Israel, and are dealt with accordingly, by denying them such power.

It's called 'preemption' - putting a barrier in the way of an aspiring politically-minded fifth-columnist (Rump Palestine sympathizer), before he-or-she can attain political office and/or position in order to undertake mischief on behalf of their co-religionists in Rump Palestine (Gaza, and the West Bank).

OK, you seriously believe that Muslim Israelis, with a population that hovers around 20% of the total Israeli population, are capable of gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, when no other Zionist Israeli political party, left or right, will work with them? Really? Are you that paranoid?

There is a far greater likelihood of Israelis gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the US government....no wait.....Jonathan Pollard.....AIPAC....ADL

Letting go of the AIPAC case - Los Angeles Times
Peres Rabin knew Pollard was planted in US armed forces handler says The Times of Israel
http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757

I see why you're so obsessed with 5th Columns, the US is riddled with them. You have my sympathy.

 

[Challenger]

Well of course the people of the Gaza strip want to be there, it's their land from which they were dispossessed by you Zionist immigrants.

So it makes Hanin Zoabi a traitor after all, and Israel maintain excellency with the latest constitutional bill since Gaza does not belong to Israel, th, Gazans can dream all they want about Israel.. it was them who forced us to leave in the first place, now they are dealing with themselves..if you will pay attention you'll notice that your argument makes no sense at all, you have no point or evidence to base your claims, and you are absolutely off the logical thinking process, I say go for anti psychotics just to ease all this anger and frustration you feel while reading this, clearly you feel stupid and ridiculous losing to 'A JOOOOO'

I might do, if I could understand this garbled mess of a post. It's clear English is not your first language as you're lapsing into babble. Calm down and start again, what are you trying to say?

That for someone with fluent English you are stupid, and your grammar is just helping me making that point.

Whatever. So I'll take that as an admission that you were just babbling and wasn't contributing anything of substance. Thanks for clarifying that.

.... ignored.

Oh you know that's never going to happen, your handlers won't let you.

 

[Kondor3]

The Boers tried that too.

The difference being that the Boers were White Euro-Christians and had plenty of other places to go in the world where their ethnic brethren and co-religionists held sway.

The Jews of Israel have no other place in the world to go, where Jews hold sway on behalf of Jews.

They aren't going anywhere, and, within a couple of decades, they will have completed their Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael.

Rather like the Spaniards kicking the Muslims out of Spain over a period of centuries, and culminating in 1492.

It's the Jews' turn now.

And, the beauty of this is, it also serves as payback for centuries of Muslim oppression of the Jews and reducing them to second-class citizens - Dhmmitude - as well as the million or so Jews that Muslims kicked out of Muslim-dominated countries during the period 1948-1975.

Payback's a *****, and it's the Muslims' turn to be on the receiving end.

Some of 'em put on their Big Girl panties and get past it... others will play the whiny-***** for another generation or two, before it gets old, and they move on.

 

[Kondor3]

...Fifth-columnists? Barbarians at the gates?! ... Paranoid delusions are not existential threats.

Muslim-Arab fifth-columnists, within the State of Israel, hostile to or acting against the interests of Israel, and on behalf of their ethnic brethren and co-religionist Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the Rump Palestine (the barbarians at the gates) are quite real, rather than paranoid delusion, and, if allowed to gain a modicum of political power and to ingratiate themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, they do, indeed, represent a future existential threat to the State of Israel, and are dealt with accordingly, by denying them such power.

It's called 'preemption' - putting a barrier in the way of an aspiring politically-minded fifth-columnist (Rump Palestine sympathizer), before he-or-she can attain political office and/or position in order to undertake mischief on behalf of their co-religionists in Rump Palestine (Gaza, and the West Bank).

OK, you seriously believe that Muslim Israelis, with a population that hovers around 20% of the total Israeli population, are capable of gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, when no other Zionist Israeli political party, left or right, will work with them? Really? Are you that paranoid?

There is a far greater likelihood of Israelis gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the US government....no wait.....Jonathan Pollard.....AIPAC....ADL

Letting go of the AIPAC case - Los Angeles Times
Peres Rabin knew Pollard was planted in US armed forces handler says The Times of Israel
http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757

I see why you're so obsessed with 5th Columns, the US is riddled with them. You have my sympathy.

Look who's talking...

 

[Challenger]

The Boers tried that too.

The difference being that the Boers were White Euro-Christians and had plenty of other places to go in the world where their ethnic brethren and co-religionists held sway.

The Jews of Israel have no other place in the world to go, where Jews hold sway on behalf of Jews.

They aren't going anywhere, and, within a couple of decades, they will have completed their Reconquista of Eretz Yisrael.

Rather like the Spaniards kicking the Muslims out of Spain over a period of centuries, and culminating in 1492.

It's the Jews' turn now.

And, the beauty of this is, it also serves as payback for centuries of Muslim oppression of the Jews and reducing them to second-class citizens - Dhmmitude - as well as the million or so Jews that Muslims kicked out of Muslim-dominated countries during the period 1948-1975.

Payback's a *****, and it's the Muslims' turn to be on the receiving end.

Some of 'em put on their Big Girl panties and get past it... others will play the whiny-***** for another generation or two, before it gets old, and they move on.

Well they could go to the USA where "their ethnic brethren and co-religionists hold sway" or back to Spain, for that matter, BBC News - Sephardic Jews invited back to Spain after 500 years

 

[Challenger]

...Fifth-columnists? Barbarians at the gates?! ... Paranoid delusions are not existential threats.

Muslim-Arab fifth-columnists, within the State of Israel, hostile to or acting against the interests of Israel, and on behalf of their ethnic brethren and co-religionist Muslim-Arab Palestinians in the Rump Palestine (the barbarians at the gates) are quite real, rather than paranoid delusion, and, if allowed to gain a modicum of political power and to ingratiate themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, they do, indeed, represent a future existential threat to the State of Israel, and are dealt with accordingly, by denying them such power.

It's called 'preemption' - putting a barrier in the way of an aspiring politically-minded fifth-columnist (Rump Palestine sympathizer), before he-or-she can attain political office and/or position in order to undertake mischief on behalf of their co-religionists in Rump Palestine (Gaza, and the West Bank).

OK, you seriously believe that Muslim Israelis, with a population that hovers around 20% of the total Israeli population, are capable of gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the Israeli government, when no other Zionist Israeli political party, left or right, will work with them? Really? Are you that paranoid?

There is a far greater likelihood of Israelis gaining a modicum of political power or ingratiating themselves within sensitive areas of the US government....no wait.....Jonathan Pollard.....AIPAC....ADL

Letting go of the AIPAC case - Los Angeles Times
Peres Rabin knew Pollard was planted in US armed forces handler says The Times of Israel
http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757

I see why you're so obsessed with 5th Columns, the US is riddled with them. You have my sympathy.

Look who's talking...

Hasbarists, by the look of it.