Zone1 Is there a reason besides desiring voter fraud/cheating to NOT have Voter ID?

[Mr. Friscus]

Wow, that's mighty white of you.

Huh? I spoke about supposed “poor people”, which had Nothing to do with race. Do you view certain races as inherently poor/inferior?

How about a fair system?

Prove you are who you say you are = fair, normal, and sensible

They know your name and your address, and they can match your signature against what's on file.

Such an inefficient and easily manipulated system. It’s like serving people alcohol and then checking their ID after they drink it. I say we make it far more secure. It speeds up the process so there’s less time needed for security

No, I said nothing of the sort, and you know it. I've stated that getting current ID's is difficult for people without fixed addresses, but you don't want those people voting, that's clear enough.

They can easily make the arrangements if they want to. People aren’t stupid.

Except you guys have been claiming that since Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, and you haven't been able to prove that it is going on in any significant way.

Again, it doesn’t have to be “significant”, that’s you evading and trying to squirm from the point. Elections should just be uniform and secure. Many people don’t think they are, and I can easily Prove they aren’t.

This is going to be a losing issue for you and the democrats if you push it, so I hope you do. It’s like 3rd trimester abortion or boys dominating girls in sports because of how they identify… it’s just outside of common sense. given the standard, voting should be at the top of this list.

You just seem to think people of color and the poor are so helpless and incapable, it’s insulting. I think they are now starting to sense that from democrats too. They aren’t as stupid as you think they are

 

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Maybe we'll find out?
I don't do armchair wars my friend, but I'll still consider your proposals if you lead. Wasn't there something about a bullring?

Any time and subject. But how can anyone argue Russia was victorious here even if they retain some token lands. It was an unmitigated disaster for them.

 

[JoeB131]

The Gulf states don't want war. The Zionist regime's biggest problem by far is America not entertaining a war against Iran because of what Iran can do to them.

Your previous armchair war with the tough guy talking points on behalf of the Z regime, are no longer applicable. You don't oppose the Z regime, you're an American so stop pretending.

The Gulf states don't want war because it messes with their business. Iran, on the other hand, is kind of a mess. But realistically, their military is kind of a joke.

The main reason I would be against invading Iran is because I don't see a benefit for America, and frankly, occupying another country that hates us would be stupid.

Let's just agree to call it Iran's ability to bring an end to the Z regime. You can learn a lot by tuning in to Ritter, and company on utube.

Scott Ritter? You mean the guy who changed his tune on Iraq's WMD when the Iraqis started giving him money, right before he was caught soliciting teenage girls for sex on line? That pervert?

That's the plan the Dems have suggested, for the purpose of conning Trump into acting. I don't think it can work. Mostly because Trump will be advised that he would get blowback against the Z regime that won't be acceptable to their continued existence.

Again, Trump is more in the pocket of the Zionists than Biden ever was. His son-in-law is a Jew. If you are hoping that Trump is going to change our policy towards Israel, you are going to be disappointed.

America is done bombing any of the Brics countries back to the stone age.

Iran isn't a BRICs country, and if the Iranians were behind an assassination attempt on POTUS, I doubt Russia or China would come to their aid.

Nope. Russia isn't intent on any territorial rewards. They are intent on security.

Wow, you see, this is where you are a liar, and there's not much point talking to you.

I can at least tell you that Putin will only take territory that is necessary to guarantee Russia's secure borders. If you think about it, it's really no different from most of America wars of aggression. (even think Vietnam)

Except not really. The US hasn't taken territory from anyone since 1898. Russia, on the other hand, is waging war in Georgia, Ukraine, and Moldava. But I don't want to get your borscht ration taken away, so I'll leave it alone.

I'm going to cut it off short of the border bullshit issues with you. Trump is returning to rational American style Capitalism after his win.

Trump is doing nothing of the sort. I'm waiting for this fool to fail badly.

 

[JoeB131]

Huh? I spoke about supposed “poor people”, which had Nothing to do with race. Do you view certain races as inherently poor/inferior?

Stop being disingenous. You know very well the whole notion of voter suppression against the poor is about race.

Such an inefficient and easily manipulated system. It’s like serving people alcohol and then checking their ID after they drink it. I say we make it far more secure. It speeds up the process so there’s less time needed for security

Okay, since you said so... I haven't been carded since the 1980s at a bar or a liquor store. So what you are already admitting is that voter ID will be applied discriminatorily. They won't card everyone because they won't have time. So I imagine down in Jesusland, Cleetus and Billy Bob will be waived right through while the person of color will have his ID checked and double checked.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Stop being disingenous. You know very well the whole notion of voter suppression against the poor is about race.

There is no voter suppression

Okay, since you said so... I haven't been carded since the 1980s at a bar or a liquor store. So what you are already admitting is that voter ID will be applied discriminatorily. They won't card everyone because they won't have time. So I imagine down in Jesusland, Cleetus and Billy Bob will be waived right through while the person of color will have his ID checked and double checked.

You’re wildly evading by bringing up the exception. By law you have to show ID. And.. age is observable after a certain time period. You probably just look so old that it’s impossible for you to pass for under 21.(Unless you identify as young?). Meanwhile, whether or not you’re a citizen or can vote is not observable, so it needs to be verified.

Easy peezy

 

[JoeB131]

There is no voter suppression

If you are going to lie, there's no point talking to you. Check your privilege.

You’re wildly evading by bringing up the exception. By law you have to show ID. And.. age is observable after a certain time period. You probably just look so old that it’s impossible for you to pass for under 21.(Unless you identify as young?). Meanwhile, whether or not you’re a citizen or can vote is not observable, so it needs to be verified.

Not at all. The purpose of these laws is to keep young people from drinking. It's why they redesign the DL every few years to keep people from faking them.



So we already know that when white folks come to vote, no one is going to check their ID, if the purpose is to keep them darkies... I mean "immigrants" from voting. Are you starting to see the problem here? Or are you too wrapped up in your own privilege?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If you are going to lie, there's no point talking to you. Check your privilege.



Not at all. The purpose of these laws is to keep young people from drinking. It's why they redesign the DL every few years to keep people from faking them.



So we already know that when white folks come to vote, no one is going to check their ID, if the purpose is to keep them darkies... I mean "immigrants" from voting. Are you starting to see the problem here? Or are you too wrapped up in your own privilege?

LMAO. Now you’re making up phantom fiction.

No whites will get ID’d? LMAO. I’m in Ohio, I was ID’d, everyone was ID’d. It’s the law.

Meanwhile, your woke buzzphrases are why you’ll continue to lose if you keep ‘em up. Demonizing white people isn’t going to be a good strategy, and it’s just wrong, racist, and immoral… and now unpopular. It may be all the rage in your bubble, but the American public is getting sick of all the woke, DEI racist BS.

But by all means, prove voter suppression. Where are people prevented from voting? The floor is yours

 

[JoeB131]

LMAO. Now you’re making up phantom fiction.

No whites will get ID’d? LMAO. I’m in Ohio, I was ID’d, everyone was ID’d. It’s the law.

Really, you checked all six million people in OHIO, and everyone of them had their ID checked? Really?

Or was it more likely that they waived people through who looked white enough, and only checked those dirty stinking darkies.

Meanwhile, your woke buzzphrases are why you’ll continue to lose if you keep ‘em up. Demonizing white people isn’t going to be a good strategy, and it’s just wrong, racist, and immoral… and now unpopular. It may be all the rage in your bubble, but the American public is getting sick of all the woke, DEI racist BS.

Guy, Trump's share of the White vote shrank by 2.5%. You are no doubt sick of it, but more and more white people are realizing the inequities of this country.

Trump won because Hispanics and Asians wouldn't support a woman....

But by all means, prove voter suppression. Where are people prevented from voting? The floor is yours

Well, five to seven million less people voted this year than last time, so someone's vote was being suppressed.

Voter Suppression

Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting voter suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Fighting Voter Suppression | American Civil Liberties Union

The ACLU works in courts, legislatures, and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and the laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.

www.aclu.org

Fighting Voter Suppression | League of Women Voters

We protect every American’s right to vote, challenging those who seek to restrict Black, brown, female, disabled, and other Americans from making their voices heard in our democracy.

www.lwv.org

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Really, you checked all six million people in OHIO, and everyone of them had their ID checked? Really?

Or was it more likely that they waived people through who looked white enough, and only checked those dirty stinking darkies.

LMAO. You’re projecting your racism again.

The law should require voter ID, that should be the standard. And there is no voter suppression until you can prove where people are not allowed to vote. Go!

Trump won because Hispanics and Asians wouldn't support a woman....

Wow.

Keep condemning minorities. You forgot black people, Trump gained there too. Your racism that exists in your worldview and ideology is now blossoming into full frontal presentation. got any slurs you want to rattle off? They rejected you and your party.. let loose, tell them how you really feel.

Well, five to seven million less people voted this year than last time, so someone's vote was being suppressed.

Or they just weren’t compelled to vote.

That’s your problem. If things don’t go the way you want, you assign a systemic injustice and oppression narrative. Your a professional victim, i Dont think you could be generally happy with the world if you tried.

People just weren’t inspired by (or didn’t like) Harris… She’s never scored high likeability when she campaigns. She’s like Hilary Clinton was.. just a bad candidate. She also was laced with a history of the most radical stances in American politics. These woke DEI stances don’t resonate with common sense people (nor should they). At the same time, Trumps priorities and policies clearly made more sense to moderate voters.

You were absolutely smoked, and now you’re whining about and throwing a temper tantrum, writing off all non-Democrats as evil. It’s childish. Grow up and stop being so emotional and sensitive. It’s pathetic.

You were rejected. Own it and stop making up excuses. You guys went wayyyy radical in policy and ideology, and you paid the price

 

[Donald H]

Any time and subject. But how can anyone argue Russia was victorious here even if they retain some token lands. It was an unmitigated disaster for them.

It's America's last opportunity to defeat Russia and break Russia up into smaller states that can be conquered. Will America succeed, in your opinion?

The Brics alliance is threatening a multi-polar world of cooperation. If not that then the other option will be taking America's place on it's intended world domination.

 

[Donald H]

The Gulf states don't want war because it messes with their business. Iran, on the other hand, is kind of a mess. But realistically, their military is kind of a joke.

The main reason I would be against invading Iran is because I don't see a benefit for America, and frankly, occupying another country that hates us would be stupid.



Scott Ritter? You mean the guy who changed his tune on Iraq's WMD when the Iraqis started giving him money, right before he was caught soliciting teenage girls for sex on line? That pervert?




Again, Trump is more in the pocket of the Zionists than Biden ever was. His son-in-law is a Jew. If you are hoping that Trump is going to change our policy towards Israel, you are going to be disappointed.



Iran isn't a BRICs country, and if the Iranians were behind an assassination attempt on POTUS, I doubt Russia or China would come to their aid.



Wow, you see, this is where you are a liar, and there's not much point talking to you.



Except not really. The US hasn't taken territory from anyone since 1898. Russia, on the other hand, is waging war in Georgia, Ukraine, and Moldava. But I don't want to get your borscht ration taken away, so I'll leave it alone.



Trump is doing nothing of the sort. I'm waiting for this fool to fail badly.

Off topic. See reply in your mailbox.

 

[JoeB131]

Keep condemning minorities. You forgot black people, Trump gained there too.

No, actually, he didn't Try paying attention.

People just weren’t inspired by (or didn’t like) Harris… She’s never scored high likeability when she campaigns. She’s like Hilary Clinton was.. just a bad candidate. She also was laced with a history of the most radical stances in American politics. These woke DEI stances don’t resonate with common sense people (nor should they). At the same time, Trumps priorities and policies clearly made more sense to moderate voters.

Moderate voters aren't Nazis...

 

[JoeB131]

Off topic. See reply in your mailbox.

Don't send me IM's.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No, actually, he didn't Try paying attention.

Trump gained black voters compared to 2020. He gained in pretty much every category, so your racist ideology means nothing. This was a universal rejection of you and the democrats.

Moderate voters aren't Nazis...

Agreed. There’s probably like 5,000 Nazis in the USA, meeting in barns and living in their basements.. where they belong. But, they have a ton in common with BLM/DEI ideology. You guys should link up

 

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It's America's last opportunity to defeat Russia and break Russia up into smaller states that can be conquered. Will America succeed, in your opinion?

The Brics alliance is threatening a multi-polar world of cooperation. If not that then the other option will be taking America's place on it's intended world domination.

America doesn't need to do anything to defeat Russia. Russia will implode all by itself.

America's intended world domination?

 

[Donald H]

America doesn't need to do anything to defeat Russia. Russia will implode all by itself.

Have faith in that at least!

America's intended world domination?

Yes in my opinion. I suspect that America's presence in WW2 was mainly on the intention of seeing the allied powers weakened, instead of fighting and defeating the axis powers.

Russia defeated Germany to win the war but at great cost in lives.

Do you think that America's window of opportunity for world domination is still not slammed completely shut?

And why?

 

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Have faith in that at least!

Yes in my opinion. I suspect that America's presence in WW2 was mainly on the intention of seeing the allied powers weakened, instead of fighting and defeating the axis powers.

Russia defeated Germany to win the war but at great cost in lives.

Do you think that America's window of opportunity for world domination is still not slammed completely shut?

And why?

America has been the least imperialistic super power in the history of super powers, so no, world domination isn't in our plans.

Did Russia defeat Germany?

Russia would not have defeated Germany without the United States' aid. The Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany was a joint effort that required close cooperation and shared sacrifices between the Allies. The United States' Lend-Lease program provided the Soviet Union with essential supplies and equipment, including weapons, vehicles, and raw materials. Soviet leaders, including Joseph Stalin and Marshal Zhukov, acknowledged the importance of Lend-Lease aid and said that the Soviet Union would have lost the war without it.

 

[Donald H]

America has been the least imperialistic super power in the history of super powers, so no, world domination isn't in our plans.

Can we name all 40 of America's wars of aggression, together?

Did Russia defeat Germany?

Russia would not have defeated Germany without the United States' aid. The Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany was a joint effort that required close cooperation and shared sacrifices between the Allies. The United States' Lend-Lease program provided the Soviet Union with essential supplies and equipment, including weapons, vehicles, and raw materials. Soviet leaders, including Joseph Stalin and Marshal Zhukov, acknowledged the importance of Lend-Lease aid and said that the Soviet Union would have lost the war without it.

Yes, Russia (the Soviet Union) defeated Germany and rose to superpower status because of being awarded repatations. Russia lost that status but has quickly regained it and has become the world's most powerful military force. Together with China and the Brics, Russia has far eclipsed America's military power.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump gained black voters compared to 2020. He gained in pretty much every category, so your racist ideology means nothing. This was a universal rejection of you and the democrats.

No, actually he didn't. He got about the same percentage of black voters he got in 2020 (He did a little better with men and a lot worse with women). He actually lost ground with white people (-2 for men, -3 with women). Where he did do better was with Hispanics and Asians. All of which is kind of moot, as a lot less people voted this time.

Agreed. There’s probably like 5,000 Nazis in the USA, meeting in barns and living in their basements.. where they belong. But, they have a ton in common with BLM/DEI ideology. You guys should link up

Guy, you can't call everything you don't like as "Nazi"> DEI is pretty much the opposite of "Nazi". Nazis weren't for diversity, they were for racial purity. Just like Trump supporters.

 

[JoeB131]

Can we name all 40 of America's wars of aggression, together?

Sure. I've asked you for this list a bunch of times, and You've never gotten past "Iraq".

Yes, Russia (the Soviet Union) defeated Germany and rose to superpower status because of being awarded repatations. Russia lost that status but has quickly regained it and has become the world's most powerful military force. Together with China and the Brics, Russia has far eclipsed America's military power.

Buddie, I know you are really trying hard to get that Borscht ration, but Russia's military is a joke. They are having to ship in North Korean mercs to fight the war for them. The Wagner Group tried to pull a coup on Putin.

China is just biding her time until she can take Siberia away from Russia...