Is the best QB in this NFL Draft Spencer Rattler of the Chickens?

[leftwinger]

I heard "Spencer" trade talk yesterday on NFL moving the chains.

They say "you cant have 3QB" in a new system. "Spencer" as they called him will be wanted and traded.

 

[EMH]

OK... not hard...

Williams has as many PO wins as Rattler does in the regular

Williams won the game, not the Bears, and Rattler lost the game, not the saints...

 

[EMH]

You dont understand the argument. It's fine. Hold on to that Rattler is the best QB in his draft class take. Im promise you dont look like a moron for doing so..

Your ENTIRE ARGUMENT is that since Steve Walsh won a game and Aikman didn't, Walsh is better...

You are trying to selectively pick and choose using the same metric....

 

[EMH]

I heard "Spencer" trade talk yesterday on NFL moving the chains.

They say "you cant have 3QB" in a new system. "Spencer" as they called him will be wanted and traded.

I'm beginning to suspect that the Steelers want to move on from Aaron endless media fest summers....

 

[Couchpotato]

OK... not hard...





Williams won the game, not the Bears, and Rattler lost the game, not the saints...

That’s not me saying wins are the only stat that matters but ok

 

[Couchpotato]

Your ENTIRE ARGUMENT is that since Steve Walsh won a game and Aikman didn't, Walsh is better...

You are trying to selectively pick and choose using the same metric....

Nope. Try again

 

[EMH]

That’s not me saying wins are the only stat that matters but ok

What matters about QB the most....


1. decision making
2. accuracy

according to Jimmy Johnson, the one who kept Aikman and parted with Walsh...


Granted, the "decision making" issue involves experience, level of competition, scheme used. Sam Darnold does make better decisions now than when he was with the Jest. That does not make him a great QB, because with his arm and his throwing motion HE WILL NEVER BE A GREAT QB.

Accuracy includes down field throws. QBs with quick release and strong arm and accuracy are rare. Sam Darnold will always be ZERO for THREE on those scores...

 

[Couchpotato]

What matters about QB the most....


1. decision making
2. accuracy

according to Jimmy Johnson, the one who kept Aikman and parted with Walsh...


Granted, the "decision making" issue involves experience, level of competition, scheme used. Sam Darnold does make better decisions now than when he was with the Jest. That does not make him a great QB, because with his arm and his throwing motion HE WILL NEVER BE A GREAT QB.

Accuracy includes down field throws. QBs with quick release and strong arm and accuracy are rare. Sam Darnold will always be ZERO for THREE on those scores...

Odd for a QB who lead the league in down field passing 2 years ago and was top 5 this year….

 

[EMH]

Odd for a QB who lead the league in down field passing 2 years ago and was top 5 this year….

And we watched the film of that, 7 of those throws, and like 5 were off target, one was a full step up wind up max distance pass of a mere 54 yards or so, his range, and from the time of decision to the time the ball gets there is TOO LONG for most NFL secondaries, they get there....

 

[Couchpotato]

And we watched the film of that, 7 of those throws, and like 5 were off target, one was a full step up wind up max distance pass of a mere 54 yards or so, his range, and from the time of decision to the time the ball gets there is TOO LONG for most NFL secondaries, they get there....

Sure champ.

 

[Winco]

Continued here, as requested by EMH

Which teams do you consider currently have a starting QB that should be replace by Spencer Rattler.

AFC East​

• Buffalo Bills — Josh Allen
• Miami Dolphins — Malik Willis
• New England Patriots — Drake Maye (year 2 expected starter)
• New York Jets — Geno Smith

AFC North​

• Baltimore Ravens — Lamar Jackson
• Cincinnati Bengals — Joe Burrow
• Cleveland Browns — Deshaun Watson / Shedeur Sanders (competition)
• Pittsburgh Steelers — Aaron Rodgers or Will Howard (emerging starter)

AFC South​

• Houston Texans — C.J. Stroud
• Indianapolis Colts — Daniel Jones
• Jacksonville Jaguars — Trevor Lawrence
• Tennessee Titans — Cam Ward

AFC West​

• Denver Broncos — Bo Nix
• Kansas City Chiefs — Patrick Mahomes
• Las Vegas Raiders — Fernando Mendoza or Cousins
• Los Angeles Chargers — Justin Herbert

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NFC​

NFC East​

• Dallas Cowboys — Dak Prescott
• New York Giants — Jaxson Dart
• Philadelphia Eagles — Jalen Hurts
• Washington Commanders — Jayden Daniels (franchise QB going forward)

NFC North​

• Chicago Bears — Caleb Williams
• Detroit Lions — Jared Goff
• Green Bay Packers — Jordan Love
• Minnesota Vikings — Kyler Murray

NFC South​

• Atlanta Falcons — Tua Tagovailoa or Penix
• Carolina Panthers — Bryce Young
• New Orleans Saints — Tyler Shough
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Baker Mayfield

NFC West​

• Arizona Cardinals — Jacoby Brissett
• Los Angeles Rams — Matthew Stafford
• San Francisco 49ers — Brock Purdy
• Seattle Seahawks — Sam Darnold

In this complete list of 32 NFL Teams.
I see exactly ZERO that would or should trade for Rattler to be their starter.
ZERO.

 

[EMH]

Rattler is a better QB than

Darnold
Brissett
Shough
Tua or Penix
Kyler
every NFC East QB
Nix
every AFC North QB because Burrow and Lamar are banged up and aren't the players they were
Geno

 

[Winco]

Accuracy includes down field throws. QBs with quick release and strong arm and accuracy are rare. Sam Darnold will always be ZERO for THREE on those scores...

I watched EVERY Sam Darnold snap this season.
Often again for the joy it gave me.

Enjoy



This pass to Saheed, in stride, huge game.

0 - 3 you say.
Down Field
Quick Release
Accuracy.

 

[EMH]

None of those throws even begins to compare to this one...

and your definition of "down field" "quick release" and "accuracy" prove you don't understand the football you watch...



Sam Darnold could not make this throw....

 

[Winco]

Rattler is a better QB than

Darnold
Brissett
Shough
Tua or Penix
Kyler
every NFC East QB
Nix
every AFC North QB because Burrow and Lamar are banged up and aren't the players they were
Geno

WOW, I guess 20+ GM's and Coaches have it all wrong.

I loved watching the Saints get slaughtered by the Seahawks this past season.
What was it again...... 44-13. Ouch.

None of those throws even begins to compare to this one...

and your definition of "down field" "quick release" and "accuracy" prove you don't understand the football you watch...



Sam Darnold could not make this throw....

That was a great throw, and YES, Darnold Can and had made that throw.
Problem is, Rattler is inconsistent and NOT a great leader of men.

Also, try not insulting me about my football knowledge.
It makes you sound little and inconsequential.

 

[Couchpotato]

Rattler is a better QB than

Darnold
Brissett
Shough
Tua or Penix
Kyler
every NFC East QB
Nix
every AFC North QB because Burrow and Lamar are banged up and aren't the players they were
Geno

show

 

[EMH]

Darnold Can and had made that throw

Bull, Darnold's range with a full wind up and stepping up is less than that throw, which Rattler made with no windup or stepping up.

 

[Winco]

Bull, Darnold's range with a full wind up and stepping up is less than that throw, which Rattler made with no windup or stepping up.

In the NFL, it takes knowledge, of which Rattler lacks.
Every QB can launch the ball 50 yards with ease.
Hell, I could throw it 50 yards with ease back in my younger days.
That great throw by Rattler was a mere 50 yards.....right.

 

[EMH]

Every QB can launch the ball 50 yards with ease

Not Darnold, he has to step up and wind up and max float it to get it 50 yards = WEAK ARM

That great throw by Rattler was a mere 50 yards

With the diagonal it is 55, flat footed, quick release, zipped not floated....

 

[Winco]

Not Darnold, he has to step up and wind up and max float it to get it 50 yards = WEAK ARM

I’m driving for the next 75 minutes
I’ll get back to this discussion

In the meantime, I challenge you to find a scouting report or a professional analysis that says Sam Darnold has a “weak arm”

I’m not dissing Rattlers arm strength, I’m saying Rattler cant routinely make smart decisions. He gets flustered in the pocket.
He struggles to play at an NFL starting QB. That’s why he rides the bench in the NFL.

So, about Darnold.
Find that report saying Darnold has weak arm strength