Is it better to live in the US or in Europe?

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, it is. Creativity can be quantified by value, aesthetic appreciation, or emotional impact. Value is the only OBJECTIVE method of quantification.

All others are subjective.

You just hate that it can be broken down so simply.

No, you're not even close to making that argument.

You just said someone buys a painting for its creativity. But you didn't show that this is so. You're just expecting me to accept your false premise in the hope that it'll gain you something. It won't.

Value quantifies VALUE. Nothing else.

How much something is worth is based on what people will pay for it. A person might want to pay more for a Rembrandt simply because they studied the art of that era and because they have the money to pay for it.

Someone else might pay that much because they think it will appreciate in value.

I already showed you that a Rembrandt, which isn't very creative, is worth much more than a painting by someone who is very creative.

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This website lists many things that impact the value of a painting. There isn't one. Which means it doesn't quantify one thing.

It cannot be broken down that simply. I'm assuming that because you're a ******* idiot, you want to make it simple. Then you've simplified something down to the point where it's so useless, the only purpose is so you can tell yourself you're not an idiot.

Well, based on your argument, you're dumber than a ******* first grader.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You bottomed out when you started it. Couldn't possibly go down.

I'm sure going up would be adding breasts and beer into it for you.

You can't have an intellectual conversation, so you come with bullshit. Well done, you've added your pointless bullshit, you may now **** back off to the swamp you came from.

 

[Meathead]

I'm sure going up would be adding breasts and beer into it for you.

You can't have an intellectual conversation, so you come with bullshit. Well done, you've added your pointless bullshit, you may now **** back off to the swamp you came from.

I'm not from your shithole, so how could possibly return there.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not from your shithole, so how could possibly return there.

Nice grammar there. Maybe you should work on your English before trying to insult people.

But really, your grammar is nothing compared to how bad your insults are.

 

[Concerned American]

I'm sure you don't quite get it.

For example, the rich using government to get what they want. It impacts you, even if you're living off the grid, it still impacts you to a certain extent.

Every thing in life has an effect in some small way on everything else. Vive la difference. You enjoy what you do and I couldn't be happier than where I am currently. I am glad you enjoy your life. We have different opinions.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Every thing in life has an effect in some small way on everything else. Vive la difference. You enjoy what you do and I couldn't be happier than where I am currently. I am glad you enjoy your life. We have different opinions.

Which is fine. However, when someone says somewhere is "better", it generally means for all people. Are all people better off in the US? Or just some?

 

[Meathead]

Nice grammar there. Maybe you should work on your English before trying to insult people.

But really, your grammar is nothing compared to how bad your insults are.

Not my fault you live in a shithole.

 

[Concerned American]

Which is fine. However, when someone says somewhere is "better", it generally means for all people. Are all people better off in the US? Or just some?

That's your take on it. I believe I am the master of my destiny and it has served me well. If you wait around for a gov't to give you what you desire, you're going to be waiting a long time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That's your take on it. I believe I am the master of my destiny and it has served me well. If you wait around for a gov't to give you what you desire, you're going to be waiting a long time.

Well, if this thread were called "Which is better for Concerned American, Europe or the US", you might be saying the right things. But that isn't what we're talking about.

 

[Concerned American]

Well, if this thread were called "Which is better for Concerned American, Europe or the US", you might be saying the right things. But that isn't what we're talking about.

Sure, please review the title of the OP. I don't see a qualifier. Do you? So now your OP lacks a quantifier and a qualifier and you refuse to accept that any answer would be predicated on opinion and circumstance. You have chosen to coerce people into believing that your opinion is the only one that matters. LOL and it is true, as my opinion is the only one that matters---TO ME. ROTFLMFAO, nonsense.

 

[fncceo]

 

[cnm]

Anyone care for an adult view on the differences?

It all depends on your personal circumstances. If you have a good life in the U.S. it is likely just as good or better than a reasonably well situated German, Swede, or Scot. If you life sucks in the U.S. you would probably be better off in Europe, where they have a generous "safety net" to keep you safe and content.

Most of these "discussions" focus on healthcare. There is nothing special about my life, and at 76 y.o., I have never had significant medical bills that were not tolerable or covered by one form of insurance or another. To hear/read the common bullshit, significant portions of the American population are living fear of their next medical event. I know nobody who lives in such fear.

In every American city, there are wonderful, crime-free neighborhoods with excellent schools, clean and enjoyable parks, museums, theaters, and venues for bike riding, running, and other comparable activities.

Conversely, even the best European cities all have shit-hole neighborhoods and places where it is not safe to walk, day or night. And with the Muslim invasion coupled with a disastrous reproduction rate, things will get very much worse before they get better.

It is simply ignorant to claim that "life" is better or worse in one continent vs another. It is all related to one's individual circumstances.

Yet it is quite fair to claim that one continent has better outcomes for its people vs another.

Rating agencies do it all the time.

Quality of Life Index by Country 2026

www.numbeo.com

 

[cnm]

I disagree that their healthcare is necessarily better. For one, they pay incredibly higher taxes to afford their universal system. Two, many of those countries have much longer wait times than we do to be seen. The quality of healthcare in the United States is the best in the world. It’s the affordability of it that screws everybody here.

Again, it all depends on what you’re looking for

The best health care for all people is not something Americans look for?

 

[cnm]

Carry Permits

That vid is accurate. Americans can't get rid of the idea that the only freedumb worth having is the freedumb to be shot.

 

[cnm]

I disagree that their healthcare is necessarily better.

Many/most US clinicians who come here, NZ, to practice seem to agree healthcare is better both as a clinician and as a patient than in the systems they came from.

Not to say it's perfect, they just think the national system is better, that it delivers more to the patients and the practitioners. An example: One US board certified ob/gyn tweeted she'd never seen a patient here that had no pre-natal care. Not one. She thought that was better. Apparently it's not that uncommon in the health system with the best quality of care in the world.

 

[Failzero]

That vid is accurate. Americans can't get rid of the idea that the only freedumb worth having is the freedumb to be shot.

Freedom to shoot the three guys who break in to your home while your two Granddaughters are visiting you from Texas .

 

[Failzero]

So, the only think you think is worth while in life is having a gun? Your life must suck.

No I have Vintage Boat ( Live 15 mins from Whiskeytown Lake ) and Motorbike ( 1966 BSA Victor GP / 1967 VW Trike …) collections and two Homes ( Mountain ) ( Country ) and a 2000 Jaguar Sovereign ( Aqua Marine ) and building & collecting my vast collection of Military Firearms of the Second Half of the 20th Century (Cold War heavy) but my biggest thrill is my extensive Stamp Collection but yes my life kinda sucks as I’m a Raiders fan since 1968…

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sure, please review the title of the OP. I don't see a qualifier. Do you? So now your OP lacks a quantifier and a qualifier and you refuse to accept that any answer would be predicated on opinion and circumstance. You have chosen to coerce people into believing that your opinion is the only one that matters. LOL and it is true, as my opinion is the only one that matters---TO ME. ROTFLMFAO, nonsense.

Right, so if we say "Which is better to live in, North Korea or the US?", we're going to give an example of Kim Jong Un, right?

We're going to talk about one man? Not the fact that most people in North Korea are starving slaves, but just the fat man.

 

[westwall]

No, you're not even close to making that argument.

You just said someone buys a painting for its creativity. But you didn't show that this is so. You're just expecting me to accept your false premise in the hope that it'll gain you something. It won't.

Value quantifies VALUE. Nothing else.

How much something is worth is based on what people will pay for it. A person might want to pay more for a Rembrandt simply because they studied the art of that era and because they have the money to pay for it.

Someone else might pay that much because they think it will appreciate in value.

I already showed you that a Rembrandt, which isn't very creative, is worth much more than a painting by someone who is very creative.

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Discover the hidden psychology behind art valuation. Learn why people spend millions on masterpieces and how emotions, prestige, and culture influence the art market.

moneyboosthub.com

"The Psychology of Art Valuation: Why People Pay Millions for Masterpieces"

"Art has long been a symbol of culture, wealth, and personal expression. But why do some artworks sell for millions while others remain relatively affordable? The answer lies in a complex mix of historical significance, rarity, and market perception."

This website lists many things that impact the value of a painting. There isn't one. Which means it doesn't quantify one thing.

It cannot be broken down that simply. I'm assuming that because you're a ******* idiot, you want to make it simple. Then you've simplified something down to the point where it's so useless, the only purpose is so you can tell yourself you're not an idiot.

Well, based on your argument, you're dumber than a ******* first grader.

Yeah, it CAN be broken down that simply. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it so.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Freedom to shoot the three guys who break in to your home while your two Granddaughters are visiting you from Texas .

Might be better if nobody was trying to break into your home in the first place