Is Gay Marriage Void? New York v Ferber (1982) Etc.

[Silhouette]

Swing and a miss. As always, you conveniently leave out the part from the Windsor ruling that finds state marriage laws are still subject to certain constitutional guarantees. You can ignore the inconvenient parts the court's ruling all you wish; however, the rest us are under no such obligation.

What constitutional guarantees? That any and all sexual orientations between adults can marry? Not all of them? How is that a constitutional guarantee again?....

The basis of the right to marry in the Obergefell decision wasn't sexual orientation. Instead, the court found that a state couldn't deny marriage licenses to a couple based on their genders.

And both genders can marry.

There's no mandate in any law or court ruling that those in same sex marriages be gay or those in opposite sex marriages be straight.

You made all that up.

Then what if four lesbians wanted to marry? Why is the number "two" sacred when a mother and father for children are no longer? Surely a child would be better off with role models of both sexes than to be deprived of one FOR LIFE..

 

[Skylar]

Swing and a miss. As always, you conveniently leave out the part from the Windsor ruling that finds state marriage laws are still subject to certain constitutional guarantees. You can ignore the inconvenient parts the court's ruling all you wish; however, the rest us are under no such obligation.

What constitutional guarantees? That any and all sexual orientations between adults can marry? Not all of them? How is that a constitutional guarantee again?....

The basis of the right to marry in the Obergefell decision wasn't sexual orientation. Instead, the court found that a state couldn't deny marriage licenses to a couple based on their genders.

And both genders can marry.

There's no mandate in any law or court ruling that those in same sex marriages be gay or those in opposite sex marriages be straight.

You made all that up.

Then what if four lesbians wanted to marry? Why is the number "two" sacred when a mother and father for children are no longer?

The number of participants in a marriage wasn't the basis of the Obergefell ruling either. Nor does the ruling even mention polygamy. Let alone authorize polyamy as you've hallucinated. The Obergefell ruling merely found that the states could not deny marriage licenses based on gender.

Surely a child would be better off with role models of both sexes than to be deprived of one FOR LIFE..

Marriage doesn't determine the gender of your parents. Making your point moot....as denying marriage to same sex parents doesn't change anything about their genders. Your 'solution' doesn't solve any 'problem'. It does however deny these children *married* parents....for no reason.

And denying children married parents causes direct and immediate harm to these children:

And it humiliates tens of thousands of children now being raised by same-sex couples. The law in question makes it even more difficult for the children to understand the integrity and closeness of their own family and its concord with other families in their community and in their daily lives....

....DOMA also brings financial harm to children of same sex couples. It raises the cost of health care for families by taxing health benefits provided by employers to their workers’ same-sex spouses. And it denies or reduces benefits allowed to families upon the loss of a spouse and parent, benefits that are an integral part of family security.

Humiliation, stigmatization, damage to the integrity and closeness of their own families, denial of benefits, loss of family security.....to hundreds of thousands of children. All caused by your 'solution'. A solution which solves no problem. Nor helps a single a child. Why would the court ever do this to these children?

They wouldn't. And they didn't. Worse for your pseudo-legal gibberish......the right to marry isn't conditioned on children or the ability to have them:

This does not mean that the right to marry is less meaningful for those who do not or cannot have children. Precedent protects the right of a married couple not to procreate, so the right to marry cannot be conditioned on the capacity or commitment to procreate.

Your argument, as always, is to straight up ignore the Supreme Court and imagine what ever pseudo-legal gibberish you wish. Then to laughably insist that the Supreme Court is bound to whatever it is you've imagined.

Um, no Sil, it isn't. No one is.

 

[Syriusly]

Is this hearing before or after Kagan and Ginsburg are impeached?

Before. Not long after the GOP retakes the Whitehouse and secures the majority in both the House and the Senate. Then. They won't impeach Ginsburg because she'll step down before then. They might impeach Kagan though. They have grounds. They aren't exempt from their own Law (Capterton vs A.T. Massey Coal 2009).

The GOP has the majority in both the House and the Senate- and not a whit of interest in impeaching any justice.

You are delusional.

 

[Syriusly]

Swing and a miss. As always, you conveniently leave out the part from the Windsor ruling that finds state marriage laws are still subject to certain constitutional guarantees. You can ignore the inconvenient parts the court's ruling all you wish; however, the rest us are under no such obligation.

What constitutional guarantees? ..

Loving v Virginia

"The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men."

"Marriage is one of the 'basic civil rights of man,' fundamental to our very existence and survival."

Zablocki v. Rehail

AlthoughLovingarose in the context of racial discrimination, prior and subsequent decisions of this Court confirm that the right to marry is of fundamental importance for all individuals.

Maynard v. Hill,125 U. S. 190(1888), the Court characterized marriage as "the most important relation in life,"id.at125 U. S. 205, and as "the foundation of the family and of society, without which there would be neither civilization nor progress,"

InMeyer v. Nebraska,262 U. S. 390(1923), the Court recognized that the right "to marry, establish a home and bring up children" is a central part of the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause,

InGriswold v. Connecticut,381 U. S. 479(1965), the Court observed:

"We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights -- older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions."

Carey v. Population Services International,431 U. S. 678(1977)

"While the outer limits of [the right of personal privacy] have not been marked by the Court, it is clear that among the decisions that an individual may make without unjustified government interference are personal decisions 'relating to marriage,

Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur

"This Court has long recognized that freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment"

 

[Syriusly]

Swing and a miss. As always, you conveniently leave out the part from the Windsor ruling that finds state marriage laws are still subject to certain constitutional guarantees. You can ignore the inconvenient parts the court's ruling all you wish; however, the rest us are under no such obligation.

What constitutional guarantees? That any and all sexual orientations between adults can marry? Not all of them? How is that a constitutional guarantee again?....

The basis of the right to marry in the Obergefell decision wasn't sexual orientation. Instead, the court found that a state couldn't deny marriage licenses to a couple based on their genders.

And both genders can marry.

There's no mandate in any law or court ruling that those in same sex marriages be gay or those in opposite sex marriages be straight.

You made all that up.

Then what if four lesbians wanted to marry? Why is the number "two" sacred when a mother and father for children are no longer? Surely a child would be better off with role models of both sexes than to be deprived of one FOR LIFE..

If four lesbians wanted to marry- they can each legally marry another person.

If you want to marry more than one person- you need to change the law- either through the legislature- or to go to court arguing that you have the right to marry your three sisters.

 

[Silhouette]

If four lesbians wanted to marry- they can each legally marry another person.

If you want to marry more than one person- you need to change the law- either through the legislature- or to go to court arguing that you have the right to marry your three sisters.

So you're saying certain sexual orientations (polyamory) have to go back and fight to make Obergefell apply to them? How is that when you state the reason Obergefell was found for gay marriage was "equal rights under the 14th". For what exactly, if not for alternate sexual orientations to one man/one woman? Just your favorite alternate sexual orientations? Or all of them? I thought the 14th was about non-discrimination.. (though to be fair, I've read it over several times and cannot find a single word about sexual behaviors in any part of the Constitution having protections so..wing it as you go then?..) Over and over and over and over again we've heard your cult chanting like a mantra about marriage "equal rights for ALL! to marry!!" And yet...

You know, you're payroll LGBT blogging buddy Skylar always likes to accuse me of "spouting peudo-legal gibberish", but in reality, Obergefell truly is the poster child for "pseudo-legal gibberish"...

 

[Skylar]

If four lesbians wanted to marry- they can each legally marry another person.

If you want to marry more than one person- you need to change the law- either through the legislature- or to go to court arguing that you have the right to marry your three sisters.

So you're saying certain sexual orientations (polyamory) have to go back and fight to make Obergefell apply to them?

Oberfegefell never even mentions polygamy. Let alone authorizes it.

Sil, you really should read the ruling. Its been months. Your refusal to even look at the ruling is just getting petulant.

How is that when you state the reason Obergefell was found for gay marriage was "equal rights under the 14th". For what exactly, if not for alternate sexual orientations to one man/one woman?

The basis of the Obergefell ruling wasn't 'sexual orientation'. It was gender. People of the same gender can marry. There's nothing in the ruling that says they have to be gay or lesbian.

Again, just read the ruling. It will disabuse you of so many of your absurd and obvious misconceptions.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

 

[Syriusly]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33487.pdf
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Not a problem you want to believe your Fuhrer and walk into a no go zone, go for it, 300 out of 10,000 Syrians are Christians and 6,700 are women and children, that leaves 3000 men of fighting age. Yep, it only takes 1 to kill 50, you can thank that Hope and Change, fundamental transformation for those deaths. Shall we try for more? Dumbass.

 

[Silhouette]

Holy thread revival!

 

[Syriusly]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

Who gets 'quietly married'?

I was publicly married to my wife with over 100 people attending. Maybe you were married in a closet but nobody else is.

Now to go to the rest of your asshole lies

Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama , allows into this country

These Americans were murdered by an American born in New York- same place Trump was born. His parents immigrated here from Afghanistan- the shooter was born 29 years ago- no- it is pure idiocy to claim that President Obama 'allowed the very people' into this country.

Muslims have been 'allowed' into our country for the entire history of our country.

Obama the homosexual

Obama sucks dick as often as you do, or perhaps slightly less.

What do you have in common with the shooter?

A hatred for homosexuals and Americans.

 

[Syriusly]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Not a problem you want to believe your Fuhrer and walk into a no go zone, go for it, 300 out of 10,000 Syrians are Christians and 6,700 are women and children, that leaves 3000 men of fighting age. Yep, it only takes 1 to kill 50, you can thank that Hope and Change, fundamental transformation for those deaths. Shall we try for more? Dumbass.

LOL- now that I showed what a Dumbass you are by lying about how many Syrian refugees came into the country last year you want to double down?

Fact is not a single Syrian refugee has attacked anyone in the United States.

But you are still terrified- shaking in fear- of all of these women and children.

Dumbass.

 

[emilynghiem]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

Dear andaronjim
1. I agree it is a bad idea to depend on liberals to run govt and national security if they don't get the use of armed citizenry as a strong deterrent

2. However I don't think the Terrorists are going to keep targeting gay people or events. They want to attack multiple sites strategically so there are more targets than LGBT that are a minority.

I think we are better as a nation to respond by unifying efforts at reporting abusive or suspicious criminal activity, as in the planned shootings that have been stopped sucessfully.

If we get distracted by infighting amongst ourselves, that's the chaos the terrorists want. So the last thing we need to do is give them more ammunition to win.

Let's not go there. Whether you are for Trump or blame gays, let's unite on national security and helping police and law enforcement. Let's not divide where the enemy can conquer, which is exactly what they want. Don't give them that!

Thanks andaronjim !

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

Dear andaronjim
1. I agree it is a bad idea to depend on liberals to run govt and national security if they don't get the use of armed citizenry as a strong deterrent

2. However I don't think the Terrorists are going to keep targeting gay people or events. They want to attack multiple sites strategically so there are more targets than LGBT that are a minority.

I think we are better as a nation to respond by unifying efforts at reporting abusive or suspicious criminal activity, as in the planned shootings that have been stopped sucessfully.

If we get distracted by infighting amongst ourselves, that's the chaos the terrorists want. So the last thing we need to do is give them more ammunition to win.

Let's not go there. Whether you are for Trump or blame gays, let's unite on national security and helping police and law enforcement. Let's not divide where the enemy can conquer, which is exactly what they want. Don't give them that!

Thanks andaronjim !

Back when the woman wanted to have a Draw the Prophet Mohammed event in Texas, 2 Muslims decided that they wanted to stop it by going with weapons to kill as many as they could. It was stopped by a person with a gun.
When the Muslim went to the Recruiting station in Tennessee and killed several servicemen, it finally took someone with a gun to stop him.
When the Muslims in San Bernardino killed Christmas participants, it took many men with guns to finally stop them.

What do all these events have in common?

 

[Syriusly]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral

Wedding bells were in the future for Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22, and his 32-year-old boyfriend Christopher "Drew" Leinonen.

However, their plans to tie the knot came to a screeching halt on Sunday morning when a gunman opened fire inside of Pulse nightclub in Orlando, tragically cutting the men's lives short.

I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

FBI missed the warning signs — again

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

Dear andaronjim
1. I agree it is a bad idea to depend on liberals to run govt and national security if they don't get the use of armed citizenry as a strong deterrent

2. However I don't think the Terrorists are going to keep targeting gay people or events. They want to attack multiple sites strategically so there are more targets than LGBT that are a minority.

I think we are better as a nation to respond by unifying efforts at reporting abusive or suspicious criminal activity, as in the planned shootings that have been stopped sucessfully.

If we get distracted by infighting amongst ourselves, that's the chaos the terrorists want. So the last thing we need to do is give them more ammunition to win.

Let's not go there. Whether you are for Trump or blame gays, let's unite on national security and helping police and law enforcement. Let's not divide where the enemy can conquer, which is exactly what they want. Don't give them that!

Thanks andaronjim !

Back when the woman wanted to have a Draw the Prophet Mohammed event in Texas, 2 Muslims decided that they wanted to stop it by going with weapons to kill as many as they could. It was stopped by a person with a gun.
When the Muslim went to the Recruiting station in Tennessee and killed several servicemen, it finally took someone with a gun to stop him.
When the Muslims in San Bernardino killed Christmas participants, it took many men with guns to finally stop them.

What do all these events have in common?

They were all stopped by policemen.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Orlando Victims Who Planned to Marry Will Have Joint Funeral I have said it before, that when these homosexuals get out and SHOVE their lifestyles into other peoples business, they are inviting repercussions from Radical Fundamentalist Muslim's who would easily throw a homo off a roof as shoot them. Keep coming out, be proud and soon you will be dead. Obama is letting 20,000 more Muslims from Syria, 100,000 last year also, does anyone know where they are? I sure feel secure knowing my government is out there. FBI missed the warning signs — again - The Boston Globe

What a piece of crap you are Anda.

How is getting married- or being peacefully inside a club 'shoving their lifestyles on anyone?

Or is it that you can just relate to the shooter and that is how you feel?

And why the hell do you feel the need to lie about Syrian refugees?
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began
Slightly more than 10,000 Syrian refugees are authorized for 2016- and around 3% of them will be Christians. 67% are women and children.

Because instead of quietly getting married like NORMAL people, they go out of their way to SHOW the world that they are GAY. Then they are murdered by the very people, Obama the homosexual, allows into this country. Bunch of dumbasses, you liberals are, and willing to have the government take care of you. So much for Hope and Change, but the fundamental transformation of America, keeps on killing....

Dear andaronjim
1. I agree it is a bad idea to depend on liberals to run govt and national security if they don't get the use of armed citizenry as a strong deterrent

2. However I don't think the Terrorists are going to keep targeting gay people or events. They want to attack multiple sites strategically so there are more targets than LGBT that are a minority.

I think we are better as a nation to respond by unifying efforts at reporting abusive or suspicious criminal activity, as in the planned shootings that have been stopped sucessfully.

If we get distracted by infighting amongst ourselves, that's the chaos the terrorists want. So the last thing we need to do is give them more ammunition to win.

Let's not go there. Whether you are for Trump or blame gays, let's unite on national security and helping police and law enforcement. Let's not divide where the enemy can conquer, which is exactly what they want. Don't give them that!

Thanks andaronjim !

Back when the woman wanted to have a Draw the Prophet Mohammed event in Texas, 2 Muslims decided that they wanted to stop it by going with weapons to kill as many as they could. It was stopped by a person with a gun.
When the Muslim went to the Recruiting station in Tennessee and killed several servicemen, it finally took someone with a gun to stop him.
When the Muslims in San Bernardino killed Christmas participants, it took many men with guns to finally stop them.

What do all these events have in common?

They were all stopped by policemen.

With guns.....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Those who died in the Gay night club, did so because of the picture below.

 

[Syriusly]

Those who died in the Gay night club, did so because of the picture below.
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There was a policeman with a gun right there.

The asshole shooter was eventually killed by policemen- with guns.