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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.

Go fuck yourself. you're a liar and just another racist bigot outing himself; and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades, then snivel and pretend to be hapless when they ever rise up and take revenge on you for that. Your own ravings prove it wasn't the church who was oppressing you, moron.
Wow! Could you be any more full of shit?
I'd love to see your Links?
Rense?

The Peanut Gallery can find most o it in the Jewish Encyclopedia, idiot. You want links, go google scholar them, then come back and lie about what you've found. As for the alleged 'literacy' of Jews being a big deal, that wasn't an issue after the 10th century; the Hansa, the Lombards, and the Templars replaced your arrogant asses in most places, which is why most kings could run your butts off back to Islamo-Land with no pain, where you could rejion your soulmates in Islam.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.

Go fuck yourself. you're a liar and just another racist bigot outing himself; and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades, then snivel and pretend to be hapless when they ever rise up and take revenge on you for that. Your own ravings prove it wasn't the church who was oppressing you, moron.
Wow! Could you be any more full of shit?
I'd love to see your Links?
Rense?

The Peanut Gallery can find most o it in the Jewish Encyclopedia, idiot. You want links, go google scholar them, then come back and lie about what you've found. As for the alleged 'literacy' of Jews being a big deal, that wasn't an issue after the 10th century; the Hansa, the Lombards, and the Templars replaced your arrogant asses in most places, which is why most kings could run your butts off back to Islamo-Land with no pain, where you could rejion your soulmates in Islam.
Thanks for admitting that the Catholic Kings were Jew haters.
Of course, the Kings were forced to expel the Jews because the 99% of Catholics who were illiterate could not compete with the Jews; but that fact you omit.
 

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and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades
Wow. You owe me 50 bucks for a new irony meter.

So what do you think they were doing. playing checkers with the kings and washing their feet? They were tax farmers and loan sharks, and importers, not 'hapless innocent oppressed victims', they were protected by the nobility and the Church both.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.
You Mean The Roman Empire's Counterfeit Church, right?

The Roman Empire and it's Counterfeit Church killed as many Christians as They Did Jews. Do not mistake what The Roman Empire either in it's Governmental Form, or Ecclesiastical form did to God's People, Jew, and Christian for The Church.

Christ has no Pope, and has no one sitting on his throne as The Viccar of Christ until His Return. We are to call none Father but God, and None Holy but God. No man, No Pope is Infallible, and only God is perfect in all His ways, His Thoughts, and His Judgments.

The Church and the Jew have been persecuted for 1,000s of years by Rome. The Whore that sits upon The Beast and whose cup is full with the blood of martyrs, and saints has never died, but will be destroyed by The Beast when he is through using her to obtain ultimate power.
Yeah, yeah...Every Church for 1,000 years wreaked havoc so they weren't real.
No fool, that was the New Testament in action.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.

Go fuck yourself. you're a liar and just another racist bigot outing himself; and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades, then snivel and pretend to be hapless when they ever rise up and take revenge on you for that. Your own ravings prove it wasn't the church who was oppressing you, moron.
Wow! Could you be any more full of shit?
I'd love to see your Links?
Rense?

The Peanut Gallery can find most o it in the Jewish Encyclopedia, idiot. You want links, go google scholar them, then come back and lie about what you've found. As for the alleged 'literacy' of Jews being a big deal, that wasn't an issue after the 10th century; the Hansa, the Lombards, and the Templars replaced your arrogant asses in most places, which is why most kings could run your butts off back to Islamo-Land with no pain, where you could rejion your soulmates in Islam.
Thanks for admitting that the Catholic Kings were Jew haters.
Of course, the Kings were forced to expel the Jews because the 99% of Catholics who were illiterate could not compete with the Jews; but that fact you omit.

See, you can't read either, which makes it even less necessary to take you seriously.
 

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and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades
Wow. You owe me 50 bucks for a new irony meter.

So what do you think they were doing. playing checkers with the kings and washing their feet? They were tax farmers and loan sharks, and importers, not 'hapless innocent oppressed victims', they were protected by the nobility and the Church both.
tax farmers and loan sharks, and importers

As opposed to the 99% of uneducated Catholics who would get drunk every night and murder some Jews.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.

Go fuck yourself. you're a liar and just another racist bigot outing himself; and we alreayd know your types of Jewsih bigots are very proud of your sucking up to princes and kings and helping them rape and rob the peasants for many decades, then snivel and pretend to be hapless when they ever rise up and take revenge on you for that. Your own ravings prove it wasn't the church who was oppressing you, moron.
Wow! Could you be any more full of shit?
I'd love to see your Links?
Rense?

The Peanut Gallery can find most o it in the Jewish Encyclopedia, idiot. You want links, go google scholar them, then come back and lie about what you've found. As for the alleged 'literacy' of Jews being a big deal, that wasn't an issue after the 10th century; the Hansa, the Lombards, and the Templars replaced your arrogant asses in most places, which is why most kings could run your butts off back to Islamo-Land with no pain, where you could rejion your soulmates in Islam.
Thanks for admitting that the Catholic Kings were Jew haters.
Of course, the Kings were forced to expel the Jews because the 99% of Catholics who were illiterate could not compete with the Jews; but that fact you omit.

See, you can't read either, which makes it even less necessary to take you seriously.
Pathetic post; try again.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.
 

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21) The Messiah would be the star coming out of Jacob
Hebrew Scriptures reference: Numbers 24:17

New Testament citations: Matthew 2:2, Revelation 22:16

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
99% of the people I work with and meet in the field are Catholic.
My co-workers are great.
You have issues.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
99% of the people I work with and meet in the field are Catholic.
My co-workers are great.
You have issues.

Ah, so CAtholics were all so evul and corrupt Jews had to be hired, but now Catholics are your best friends n stuff?

So you're saying you have no standards at all? That I believe.

Another Fun Fact for the Peanut Gallery is that after the Reconquest of Spain, most Jews that didn't want to convert were allowed into France, the Netherlands, Germany, and other Christian countries. The Papal states also took in many, the Pope himself had to order Jewish communities to take in some 10,000 of their fellow Jews after they kept rejecting them, and for those unfamiliar with where Jewish 'ghettos' came from, it was from the demands of Jews themselves to be segregated from those sub-human peasants and goy. Of course the later propaganda from Jewish bigots rewrites that fact with fake history, claiming they were ordered by Evul Xians. They got kind of crowed later on, but that is yet another self-inflicted problem created by their own leadership.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
99% of the people I work with and meet in the field are Catholic.
My co-workers are great.
You have issues.

Ah, so CAtholics were all so evul and corrupt Jews had to be hired, but now Catholics are your best friends n stuff?

So you're saying you have no standards at all? That I believe.

Another Fun Fact for the Peanut Gallery is that after the Reconquest of Spain, most Jews that didn't want to convert were allowed into France, the Netherlands, Germany, and other Christian countries. The Papal states also took in many, the Pope himself had to order Jewish communities to take in some 10,000 of their fellow Jews after they kept rejecting them, and for those unfamiliar with where Jewish 'ghettos' came from, it was from the demands of Jews themselves to be segregated from those sub-human peasants and goy. Of course the later propaganda from Jewish bigots rewrites that fact with fake history, claiming they were ordered by Evul Xians. They got kind of crowed later on, but that is yet another self-inflicted problem created by their own leadership.
What does 1,000 years of the evil Roman Catholic Church have to do with the 20th and 21st century?
Are you that stupid?
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Whatever history book you’re reading was probably published under the 3rd Reich.
If you are referring to Jews who were tortured for 1,000 years under the Church murdering millions of Christians, I suggest you go back in time and advise your Popes to not murder and torture Jews.

yes go run and hide behind the holocaust, as if that somehow granted you and the other bigots a right to lie about your past history of self-inflicted problems. Your own arrogance and insularity and racism is responsible for your failures.
Who needs the Holocaust, you lying piece of shit?
The Church spent a millennia murdering people for gold and pussy.
You think you can suppress people's rights for 1,000 years and not eventually get your ass kicked?
And there's a reason the Popes and Catholic Kings has Jews as Finance Ministers...Jews were educated and pilfered less than illiterate Catholics.
You Mean The Roman Empire's Counterfeit Church, right?

The Roman Empire and it's Counterfeit Church killed as many Christians as They Did Jews. Do not mistake what The Roman Empire either in it's Governmental Form, or Ecclesiastical form did to God's People, Jew, and Christian for The Church.

Christ has no Pope, and has no one sitting on his throne as The Viccar of Christ until His Return. We are to call none Father but God, and None Holy but God. No man, No Pope is Infallible, and only God is perfect in all His ways, His Thoughts, and His Judgments.

The Church and the Jew have been persecuted for 1,000s of years by Rome. The Whore that sits upon The Beast and whose cup is full with the blood of martyrs, and saints has never died, but will be destroyed by The Beast when he is through using her to obtain ultimate power.
Yeah, yeah...Every Church for 1,000 years wreaked havoc so they weren't real.
No fool, that was the New Testament in action.
I think you need to do some research. The "Holy" Roman Catholic Church's Inquisition tortured Christians and Jews alike.

The "Holy" Roman Empire's Catholic Church is responsible for the murder of 50 million Christians and Jews. The Catholic Church also refused to allow the common man to possess or read a Bible. The Holy Roman Catholic Church does not practice Christianity nor are they Christians.

They practice the Old Roman Pagan Pantheism and washed it over with a veneer of Christianity. It is a counterfeit every much as a counterfeit currency which looks like the real thing but is not authentic.

Do not attribute the sins of The Roman Empire's Counterfeit Church to True Christianity and Christians who have defended Israel and The Jew with their live, blood and treasure.

While there may be handfuls of Christians in The Catholic Church, The Catholic Church is not Christian, nor should ever be confused with Biblical Christianity.
 
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22) The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem
Hebrew Scriptures reference: Micah 5:2 [Hebrew Bible verse 1]

New Testament citations: Matthew 2:1-6, John 7:40-43

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
99% of the people I work with and meet in the field are Catholic.
My co-workers are great.
You have issues.

Ah, so CAtholics were all so evul and corrupt Jews had to be hired, but now Catholics are your best friends n stuff?

So you're saying you have no standards at all? That I believe.

Another Fun Fact for the Peanut Gallery is that after the Reconquest of Spain, most Jews that didn't want to convert were allowed into France, the Netherlands, Germany, and other Christian countries. The Papal states also took in many, the Pope himself had to order Jewish communities to take in some 10,000 of their fellow Jews after they kept rejecting them, and for those unfamiliar with where Jewish 'ghettos' came from, it was from the demands of Jews themselves to be segregated from those sub-human peasants and goy. Of course the later propaganda from Jewish bigots rewrites that fact with fake history, claiming they were ordered by Evul Xians. They got kind of crowed later on, but that is yet another self-inflicted problem created by their own leadership.
What does 1,000 years of the evil Roman Catholic Church have to do with the 20th and 21st century?
Are you that stupid?

What 'Evul' are you babbling about? You mean not prostrating themselves before your Master Race fantasies your Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox 'rabbis' fabricated out of nothing, like all goy should? Yes, that is indeed a horror story for you, no doubt.
 

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If you believe what the 2nd Century Pharisees fabricated as 'Judaism', you wouldn't know that for a fact, and would reject the post-exilic rubbish and return to the Torah of Moses
What does it mean on practice? Okay, let's assume that some supreme religious body of Judaism decides to get rid of 'post-exilic rubbish' and return to Moses' Torah. What should the first steps be?

Read the Pentateuch and find out for yourself. It's all in writing, and complete, no need to fabricate an alleged' secret Torah' just for Babylonian cultists. What passes for modern 'Orthodox' and ultra-Orthodox 'Judaism' is a 2nd Century A.D. cult invented after the Temple scam was finally destroyed in the revolts.
Let’s put it this way...
Whatever was “Torah Judaism”, in it’s most lenient form prior to Ezra, failed, because almost 100% of Jews assimilated.
Ezra and his court made decisions on how to apply Rabbinical logic and the Jews are still here today.
On the other hand, Rabbinical Jews have never burned anyone at the cross for disagreeing with their decisions.

Actually you're still indoctrinated into believing Jews are a special race, which is why you still buy the post-exilic fantasies. Jews didn't have Kings until Saul and he was chosen by popular acclamation as a war leader and politician, more like a Greek Tyrant position than a 'royal line', and many Jews then rejected the idea of a 'king' and a Temple as well; the Tabernacle and Ark were kept in a tent. The institution of kingship and a big giant Temple are where the alienness started, and it was under the rule of kings and the Temple that Jews failed and lost their lands, not the other way around. The Dual Monarchy certainly didn't go well. The Babylonian captives were the last Jews anybody should listen to about religion and rulership of Jews. Their ridiculous 'racial purity' laws lead them away from universalism to a collection of splintered cults that led to their final acts of mindless arrogance and the loss of their Temple and lands for the next 2,000 years.

And as for Jews killing people your history of murdering Christians isn't hidden well enough for your last claim to fly; your avid partnerships and lucrative alliances with Muslim imperialists is clear evidence, not even counting the mass murders of Christians by Jews ruling what is now Yemen and other atrocities before the rise of Islam came along.
Jews are not a special race. It is because God made a covenant with them, that He will fulfill it and will keep His Covenant with Israel. Not for their sakes, but for His own and for His sheep, because God does not lie.

The Covenants are two way streets; those Jews who continue to hold up their ends will be the successful ones in the end, and it never was a matter of who your parents were whether or not one is covered by the Covenants; that rubbish was started by the Babylonians using their Persian connections to bully their way into a nice racket, one that has nothing at all to do with fuliflling the covenants, which is why a new one came along and definitively restored the faith, according to the theology' There was no 'secret Torah Only For Jews' whispered into Moses ear; it's complete as written. The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox and Hasedim are not Jews of the covenants, they're just cults that were invented by Babylonian Jews to set themselves up as royalty and priests, and the only 'pure Jews' racist nonsense is their invention as well. In their latest incarnations, the 2nd Century rabbinical 'Judaism' fabricated by Pharisees who survived the Revolts invented the racist premise that goys are only here as a way for God to punish or reward Jews, and not real people, as defined by themselves of course as being the 'pure Jews'.
Google Covenant because almost everybody misunderstands the word.
There are at least 10 Covenants in Tanakh.
It's obvious Christians never read the last few chapters of Deuteronomy because Moshe explains what is happening today and says that despite how far the Children of Israel stray from God, He will take us back; because we're still far more civilized than any other group.

I don't care what bullshit you spread, all one needs to know is already in the OT and NT, and the later history of the bigotry and looting you helped your Muslim buddies inflict on peoples all across Europe. Africa, and India for a couple of thousand years.
Links

Post some of your crazy links; we need the comedy.
It's called history; you're the one who is skewing history for all to see; and you're rather boring,
Now tell us that 100% of Catholic farmers and tradesmen were educated and literate.

Tell us why you're a bigot. Is it because Mommy and Daddy fed you horror stories and bullshit history and you beleive it all? Some Jews here are pissed off because the EVul Christians wouldn't let them take their loot with them after the reconquest of Spain, you know, the gall of those uppity goy to treat the Master Race as if they were commoners, an insult too horrible to forgive.
99% of the people I work with and meet in the field are Catholic.
My co-workers are great.
You have issues.

Ah, so CAtholics were all so evul and corrupt Jews had to be hired, but now Catholics are your best friends n stuff?

So you're saying you have no standards at all? That I believe.

Another Fun Fact for the Peanut Gallery is that after the Reconquest of Spain, most Jews that didn't want to convert were allowed into France, the Netherlands, Germany, and other Christian countries. The Papal states also took in many, the Pope himself had to order Jewish communities to take in some 10,000 of their fellow Jews after they kept rejecting them, and for those unfamiliar with where Jewish 'ghettos' came from, it was from the demands of Jews themselves to be segregated from those sub-human peasants and goy. Of course the later propaganda from Jewish bigots rewrites that fact with fake history, claiming they were ordered by Evul Xians. They got kind of crowed later on, but that is yet another self-inflicted problem created by their own leadership.
What does 1,000 years of the evil Roman Catholic Church have to do with the 20th and 21st century?
Are you that stupid?

What 'Evul' are you babbling about? You mean not prostrating themselves before your Master Race fantasies your Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox 'rabbis' fabricated out of nothing, like all goy should? Yes, that is indeed a horror story for you, no doubt.
Nice to know the Holy Roman Catholic Church was nothing but benficent.
 

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23) The Messiah would be greater than David
Hebrew Scriptures reference: Psalm 110:1-4

New Testament citations: Matthew 22:41-45, Mark 12:35-37, Luke 20:41-44, Acts 2:34-36, 1 Corinthians 15:25-28, Hebrews 1:3, Hebrews 1:13, Hebrews 4:14-5:10

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24) The Messiah would be a descendant of David
Hebrew Scriptures reference: 2 Samuel 7:12-16

New Testament citations: Matthew 1:1, Luke 1:32-33, Acts 15:15-16, Hebrews 1:5

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