Inside The Racist Mind
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I know you're trying real hard to discount white racism but the fact remains that race was not a consideration until the 15-1600's. Race is a construct, iron is a existing mineral. I think that when we look at the history of this nation whites have been the predators. And when we look at the system, we see that whites have always given themselves more than they allowed others to get. He who knows the truth cannot be a victim. Understand that old white woman, because if not for us, you'd still be baking biscuits.
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So here we are going to look at terms like entitlement and dependence on government. We are going to look it this from a different perspective. Generally when we talk about entitlement, it is usually with disdain because as a country we have informed ourselves that no one is entitled to anything but the right to work hard and to earn your place on the merits. Yet there are plenty of examples that show us this is just simply not the truth and maybe now that we have reached the 21st century and are well into it, that we start being truthful. Sub groups within the white community want to blame minority groups for having an entitlement mentality because of laws that eliminated segregation and racist policies, or at least reduced them in practice to such a level that nonwhites can at least try competing in the system.
These are not entitlements. They are policies and laws put in place to guarantee equal protection under the law for nonwhites who were not getting those protections before the laws were made. Entitlement is a little different from that. Per Merriam Webster, the full definition of entitlement is:
State or condition of being entitled. A right to benefits specified by law or contract. A government program providing benefits to a specific group. Belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges.
Let us start with the first part of the definition: State or condition of being entitled. The system in America is built upon white racial superiority. What made whites believe they were superior therefore entitled to things that others were not? What made the whites from Europe decide they had the right to invade this continent and create a government when governments were already here?
After doing a lot of reading, it appears that we must take ourselves back to the era of what was called the Age of Enlightenment. Now I don’t know just exactly who was enlightened by these ideas, because to people who weren’t of European descent the era had nothing to do with being “enlightened.” In fact, Europeans were not enlightened either. This era was also called the Age of Reason, but what came out of this age were some of the most unreasoned and crazed ideas in the history of mankind. This era supposedly advanced ideals like liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government, along with separation of church and state. But it also fostered the idea of scientific racism. That “reason and enlightenment” came equipped with philosophies steeped in racism. As usual half of the story is not told to promote some great ideal of superiority of thought and reason based on the European or white ideal. However, the top thinkers of the time held ideas or beliefs such as this:
Manu Musa might have disagreed with this assessment. So would have multiple leaders in Asia and Indigenous leaders in what is North and South America. Hume was not the only one with this flawed belief. Immanuel Kant was one of the earliest advocates of scientific racism and considered the greatest thinker of the times. This is how misguided we have been relative to our educations in this and other western societies. The excuse of that’s how they thought at the time has been used as defense for his racism.
Murder was wrong in those days but no one will excuse people who murdered others during the so called age of enlightenment because that’s just how they did things then. As you read what was believed, if this was enlightenment then just how dark were the dark ages? This must be asked after you read about racial classifications that include dwarfs, giants and troglodytes. Whites really need to quit making excuses for this because it is from these ideas that the very problems we face today relative to racism or ethnocentrism come from.
Kants ideas, that the European white was the only race capable of self-improvement and highest level of civilization, were widely accepted. These ideas created the belief in European superiority that we still see today couched under a newer descriptive term called western civilization. Kant and Hume were not alone in this belief. My goal here is not to go into a deep discussion of enlightenment philosophy or scientific racism. However the term scientific racism itself explains the prevailing thoughts in Europe during this time. Therefore it’s basic premise should be exposed and understood as to how it created a belief of entitlement and privilege among whites that continues until the present.
Simply put, scientific racism is the use of scientific theories to justify racial superiority or inferiority. It creates a belief in the natural or genetic superiority of a race. Scientific racism as a belief or ideology has been a problem from the 1600’s and lasted as a respected scientific belief until just after World War 2. One can argue that such beliefs still exist today among specific segments of the world wide white community. Scientific racism is more bluntly put, racist propaganda.
A long line of European thinkers supported this and expanded it. Voltaire is given credit as an advocate for civil liberties, yet Voltaire had a racial hierarchy where blacks were lower than whites and ranked just above oysters. Benjamin Rush, a founding father of this country, believed that being black meant you had a skin disease. He even had a name for it, Negroidism. He believed that people born black had a form of leprosy that could be cured. In every instance of trying to provide this “scientific” understanding of cultural differences and skin complexion whites always gave themselves top billing as being more advanced.
I almost forgot this one, Madison Grant. While some in the area of environment may see Grant as a great man, had he stuck to his work in that field, perhaps I could agree. But he didn’t. Grant is hailed as one of the great progressives of his time. Such praise creates concern about progressives as Grant is also praised by the founder of American Renaissance as a tireless advocate for racialism.
Madison Grant promoted scientific racism for his entire adult life. He was active in the eugenics movement of that time. So was eventual British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and David Starr Jordan, founder of Stanford University. But it is Grants work contained in a book, “The Passing of the Great Race: Or, The Racial Basis of European History,” written in 1916 that influences us even until today. In this book Grant promotes the Nordic Theory of racial supremacy also used by Hitler in his “final solution.” Grants work was instrumental in the formulation of various intelligence tests to include the SAT. Scientific racism still impacts us today on most Saturday mornings from 8 am until noon at various testing sites.
The problem here lies in the fact this propaganda was believed for over 300 years and put into practice in ways that created damage which are part of world problems today. Influential Europeans during this time put it into practice by colonizing nations based upon their supposed inherent racial superiority. Europeans felt they were entitled to this based upon their being the only people who could create and appreciate what ‘civilization’ was supposed to be.
These are not entitlements. They are policies and laws put in place to guarantee equal protection under the law for nonwhites who were not getting those protections before the laws were made. Entitlement is a little different from that. Per Merriam Webster, the full definition of entitlement is:
State or condition of being entitled. A right to benefits specified by law or contract. A government program providing benefits to a specific group. Belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges.
Let us start with the first part of the definition: State or condition of being entitled. The system in America is built upon white racial superiority. What made whites believe they were superior therefore entitled to things that others were not? What made the whites from Europe decide they had the right to invade this continent and create a government when governments were already here?
After doing a lot of reading, it appears that we must take ourselves back to the era of what was called the Age of Enlightenment. Now I don’t know just exactly who was enlightened by these ideas, because to people who weren’t of European descent the era had nothing to do with being “enlightened.” In fact, Europeans were not enlightened either. This era was also called the Age of Reason, but what came out of this age were some of the most unreasoned and crazed ideas in the history of mankind. This era supposedly advanced ideals like liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government, along with separation of church and state. But it also fostered the idea of scientific racism. That “reason and enlightenment” came equipped with philosophies steeped in racism. As usual half of the story is not told to promote some great ideal of superiority of thought and reason based on the European or white ideal. However, the top thinkers of the time held ideas or beliefs such as this:
“I am apt to suspect the negroes and in general all other species of men (for there are four or five different kinds) to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even any individual eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the whites, such as the ancient GERMANS, the present TARTARS, have still something eminent about them in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant differences could not happen in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction betwixt these breeds of men. Not to mention our colonies, there are Negroe slaves dispersed all over Europe, of which none ever discovered any symptoms of ingenuity, tho' low people, without education, will start up amonst us, and distinguish themselves in every profession. In JAMAICA indeed they talk of one negroe as a man of parts and learning; but 'tis likely he is admired for very slender accomplishments like a parrot, who speaks a few words plainly. “
David Hume, “Of National Characters”
David Hume, “Of National Characters”
Manu Musa might have disagreed with this assessment. So would have multiple leaders in Asia and Indigenous leaders in what is North and South America. Hume was not the only one with this flawed belief. Immanuel Kant was one of the earliest advocates of scientific racism and considered the greatest thinker of the times. This is how misguided we have been relative to our educations in this and other western societies. The excuse of that’s how they thought at the time has been used as defense for his racism.
In three separate works Kant claimed that the Negro is, in most respects, the lowest of all races. He also referred to blacks as the “bad race” and whites as “the good race,” argued that the white race contains “all incentives and talents,” and felt that whites were the “only ones who always progress toward perfection.”
To my knowledge, Kant never repudiated any of these explicitly racist claims.
Ryan Very, Kant’s Racism, www.academia.edu, 2012
To my knowledge, Kant never repudiated any of these explicitly racist claims.
Ryan Very, Kant’s Racism, www.academia.edu, 2012
Murder was wrong in those days but no one will excuse people who murdered others during the so called age of enlightenment because that’s just how they did things then. As you read what was believed, if this was enlightenment then just how dark were the dark ages? This must be asked after you read about racial classifications that include dwarfs, giants and troglodytes. Whites really need to quit making excuses for this because it is from these ideas that the very problems we face today relative to racism or ethnocentrism come from.
Kants ideas, that the European white was the only race capable of self-improvement and highest level of civilization, were widely accepted. These ideas created the belief in European superiority that we still see today couched under a newer descriptive term called western civilization. Kant and Hume were not alone in this belief. My goal here is not to go into a deep discussion of enlightenment philosophy or scientific racism. However the term scientific racism itself explains the prevailing thoughts in Europe during this time. Therefore it’s basic premise should be exposed and understood as to how it created a belief of entitlement and privilege among whites that continues until the present.
Simply put, scientific racism is the use of scientific theories to justify racial superiority or inferiority. It creates a belief in the natural or genetic superiority of a race. Scientific racism as a belief or ideology has been a problem from the 1600’s and lasted as a respected scientific belief until just after World War 2. One can argue that such beliefs still exist today among specific segments of the world wide white community. Scientific racism is more bluntly put, racist propaganda.
A long line of European thinkers supported this and expanded it. Voltaire is given credit as an advocate for civil liberties, yet Voltaire had a racial hierarchy where blacks were lower than whites and ranked just above oysters. Benjamin Rush, a founding father of this country, believed that being black meant you had a skin disease. He even had a name for it, Negroidism. He believed that people born black had a form of leprosy that could be cured. In every instance of trying to provide this “scientific” understanding of cultural differences and skin complexion whites always gave themselves top billing as being more advanced.
I almost forgot this one, Madison Grant. While some in the area of environment may see Grant as a great man, had he stuck to his work in that field, perhaps I could agree. But he didn’t. Grant is hailed as one of the great progressives of his time. Such praise creates concern about progressives as Grant is also praised by the founder of American Renaissance as a tireless advocate for racialism.
Madison Grant promoted scientific racism for his entire adult life. He was active in the eugenics movement of that time. So was eventual British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and David Starr Jordan, founder of Stanford University. But it is Grants work contained in a book, “The Passing of the Great Race: Or, The Racial Basis of European History,” written in 1916 that influences us even until today. In this book Grant promotes the Nordic Theory of racial supremacy also used by Hitler in his “final solution.” Grants work was instrumental in the formulation of various intelligence tests to include the SAT. Scientific racism still impacts us today on most Saturday mornings from 8 am until noon at various testing sites.
The problem here lies in the fact this propaganda was believed for over 300 years and put into practice in ways that created damage which are part of world problems today. Influential Europeans during this time put it into practice by colonizing nations based upon their supposed inherent racial superiority. Europeans felt they were entitled to this based upon their being the only people who could create and appreciate what ‘civilization’ was supposed to be.
im-2 you cannot be as stupid as you present yourself.
Can you DEFINE "the system" ----well you did "this
nation" which was founded a bit more than two centuries ago and which you claim FOUNDED racism
against "black africans" and even invented "WHITES" which you claim did not exist as a designation until something like the 16 th century AD????? uhm-----before that no one noticed skin color as People-Group designation? Did you pass
plane geometry in High School? Long ago I used to
tutor some of the most stupid kids to GET THEM THRU plane geometry------(they were all "white") ---now I have met an even STUPIDER kid. BTW---you have yet to come up with the NON-RACIST human society which according to you is and has been everywhere but for the past 200 years as racist US SOCIETY.
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Please show where I ever shared my age or said I was white.
I don't think you are in a position to be calling people names.
Moron.
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" Greek And Roman Heritage Versus Alternative Cultural Norms "
* Manifest Destiny In Ages Of Natural History *
How long had fictional ishmaelism levied stress upon the japhetic peoples of europe ?
There was the invasion of spain and then there were the turks which masked the phenotype clad of japhetic peoples with its dominant traits .
Oceanic seafaring was not contemporary among the nations , though technology bolstered mercantilism , when the risk for ones identity and survival as a peoples was more apparent .
So the annals of history have vetted out that the lineages of japheth founded upon the north american continent with a similar temperate zone though it had been dwelled within by native americans of oriental descent .
Now , given the veracity of nature in the annals of history , upon which basis are allegations hurled that the peoples of japheth were less than fair given their understandings from antiquity about the necessities for avoiding doom ?
It would have brought about horrible afflictions upon the world had fictional ishmaelism conquered north america during an age when military advantages over primitive resistance was overwhelming .
* Manifest Destiny In Ages Of Natural History *
One can quote all the arrogance one wishes but one needs to recount history of mammon from the perspectives of peoples near antiquity whose recollections for survival were more grave that the tender foot malcontents of these days .
How long had fictional ishmaelism levied stress upon the japhetic peoples of europe ?
There was the invasion of spain and then there were the turks which masked the phenotype clad of japhetic peoples with its dominant traits .
Oceanic seafaring was not contemporary among the nations , though technology bolstered mercantilism , when the risk for ones identity and survival as a peoples was more apparent .
So the annals of history have vetted out that the lineages of japheth founded upon the north american continent with a similar temperate zone though it had been dwelled within by native americans of oriental descent .
Now , given the veracity of nature in the annals of history , upon which basis are allegations hurled that the peoples of japheth were less than fair given their understandings from antiquity about the necessities for avoiding doom ?
It would have brought about horrible afflictions upon the world had fictional ishmaelism conquered north america during an age when military advantages over primitive resistance was overwhelming .
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" Uppity Fool Believes All Are Alike In Faculties Of Mind "
* Presenting Challenges For Sufficient Data *
Now science is a study of empirical evidence and no matter how one slices it , cranial capacity , neural density , brain weight and cortex involution differences between races are correlated with iq measurements and it is not racist though it is science .
So try not to pretend that you are in some sissified left wing buzz hive that will protect you from self conscious attacks , you have found yourself in the badlands of candor and honest inquiry .
Overall, MRI studies show that brain size is related to IQ differences within race. Moreover, the three-way pattern of group differences in average brain size is detectable at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites, and Whites average 5 cubic inches more cranial capacity than Blacks. These findings on group differences in average brain size have been replicated using MRI, endocranial volume from empty skulls, wet brain weight at autopsy, and external head size measures.
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Violating non violence principles is required for racism .
Now science is a study of empirical evidence and no matter how one slices it , cranial capacity , neural density , brain weight and cortex involution differences between races are correlated with iq measurements and it is not racist though it is science .
So try not to pretend that you are in some sissified left wing buzz hive that will protect you from self conscious attacks , you have found yourself in the badlands of candor and honest inquiry .
Overall, MRI studies show that brain size is related to IQ differences within race. Moreover, the three-way pattern of group differences in average brain size is detectable at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites, and Whites average 5 cubic inches more cranial capacity than Blacks. These findings on group differences in average brain size have been replicated using MRI, endocranial volume from empty skulls, wet brain weight at autopsy, and external head size measures.
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What the hell is a "construct"? I am NOT BLACK or ASIAN. I was born white that isn't imaginary pseudo intellectual bullshit. YOU deplore stereotypes (blacks are criminals) but then launch into stereotyping all whites as predators...bit inconsistent, dear chap. Black fragility showing its head... or was that a micro trans dimensional aggression from the purple singularity?
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