Increase in severe weather events and the cost of those events

[EMH]

The warming of the atmosphere is based on surface measurements

You cannot make this up. The "warming" of the atmosphere is based on... not the actual atmosphere, but by lying about Urban Heat Island Effect, the only actual warming in actual data.

Actually, we do have measures of atmospheric temps....

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"

THE ACTUAL UNFUDGED DATA FROM HIGHLY CORRELATED SATELLITES AND BALLOONS SHOWED PRECISELY NO WARMING IN ATMOSPHERE....


and then we have Surface Air Pressure, which goes up when a planet actually does warm, but isn't going up on planet Earth.


ALL of the ACTUAL DATA on ATMOSPHERIC TEMPS show NO WARMING.

 

[Old Rocks]

There is a difference between FUDGE and DATA. The DATA never showed ocean warming. Scripps Oceanographic Institute is one that FUDGED, because in the mid 1990s they were very clear = oceans not warming. Then that truth was removed by Scripps from the website, and ever since it has been a sugary chocolatey plate of fudge cubes....

If oceans were warming, would we get a breakout of cane activity?


Goog AI

Yes, ocean warming increases hurricane activity



AND HENCE SINCE THERE IS NO INCREASE IN CANE ACTIVITY = OCEANS NOT WARMING

My, such a silly little liar you be. Yes, there has been a global increase in cyclonic activity and intensity in the last 50 years as the oceans have warmed.

es

Has​

Yes, there has been an increase in global cyclonic activity in the last 50 years. Research indicates that while the number of tropical cyclones has remained relatively steady, their intensity has significantly increased. This increase is attributed to rising sea surface temperatures and other climate change factors. The Atlantic hurricanes have developed and strengthened faster, with a greater likelihood of intensification from a weak Category 1 hurricane to a major Category 3 or stronger system. The modern era of hurricane intensification rates is up to 28.7% greater than the historical era, and the number of times hurricanes strengthen from a Category 1 storm to a major hurricane within 36 hours has more than doubled. These trends align with the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and other climatologists, who have warned that climate change is likely to increase the frequency of the most destructive cyclones, particularly categories four and five.

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency+5

 

[Old Rocks]

"if they coincide with heavy rains"

LOL!!!


A heavy rain is not ocean rise. You cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of "ocean rise" because

THERE IS NO OCEAN RISE

because THERE IS NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

because PLANET EARTH IS NOT WARMING

Blue​

The phenomenon of blue sky flooding in Florida's coastal cities refers to flooding that occurs on days with less extreme tides or little wind, even on sunny days. This type of flooding is becoming increasingly common due to rising sea levels and the impact of climate change. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) projects that the average number of flood events per year will progressively accelerate across decades since 1950, with the rate of increase being the largest at most locations in Hawai‘i and along the East and Gulf Coasts. Coastal cities are experiencing more frequent flooding, often defined as "nuisance" flooding, which can lead to minor impacts such as frequent road closures and reduced stormwater drainage capacity.

Newsweek



https://news.wfsu.org/state-news/2024-07-08/the-union-of-concerned-scientists-predicts-extensive-coastal-flooding-is-in-floridas-future

 

[Old Rocks]

You cannot make this up. The "warming" of the atmosphere is based on... not the actual atmosphere, but by lying about Urban Heat Island Effect, the only actual warming in actual data.

Actually, we do have measures of atmospheric temps....

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"

THE ACTUAL UNFUDGED DATA FROM HIGHLY CORRELATED SATELLITES AND BALLOONS SHOWED PRECISELY NO WARMING IN ATMOSPHERE....


and then we have Surface Air Pressure, which goes up when a planet actually does warm, but isn't going up on planet Earth.


ALL of the ACTUAL DATA on ATMOSPHERIC TEMPS show NO WARMING.

Damn, do you ever read any of these article? For that one says that the atmosphere is indeed warming;

"For years skeptics of global warming have used satellite and weather balloon data to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening.

Now, according to three new studies published in the journal Science, it turns out those conclusions based on satellite and weather balloon data were based on faulty analyses.


The atmosphere is indeed warming, not cooling as the data previously showed."

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[EMH]

there has been a global increase in cyclonic activity and intensity in the last 50 years as the oceans have warmed.

Not according to the ACTUAL DATA....

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Blue​

The phenomenon of blue sky flooding in Florida's coastal cities refers to flooding that occurs on days with less extreme tides or little wind, even on sunny days. This type of flooding is becoming increasingly common due to rising sea levels and the impact of climate change. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) projects that the average number of flood events per year will progressively accelerate across decades since 1950, with the rate of increase being the largest at most locations in Hawai‘i and along the East and Gulf Coasts. Coastal cities are experiencing more frequent flooding, often defined as "nuisance" flooding, which can lead to minor impacts such as frequent road closures and reduced stormwater drainage capacity.
Newsweek
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https://news.wfsu.org/state-news/2024-07-08/the-union-of-concerned-scientists-predicts-extensive-coastal-flooding-is-in-floridas-future

This is absolutely pathetic. CO2 FRAUD aka oldrocks is arguing ocean rise is only visible after heavy rain events...


Actually, if there was an actual ocean rise, it would be visible 365 days a year, not just days after heavy rain...


But there is no ocean rise, and this is their "integrity" = ZERO.

 

[EMH]

Damn, do you ever read any of these article? For that one says that the atmosphere is indeed warming;

"For years skeptics of global warming have used satellite and weather balloon data to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening.

Now, according to three new studies published in the journal Science, it turns out those conclusions based on satellite and weather balloon data were based on faulty analyses.


The atmosphere is indeed warming, not cooling as the data previously showed."

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

You've tried this. There is DATA and there is FUDGE. The DATA showed NO WARMING. That data was FUDGED in 2005, and you cannot even begin to debate the fudge job.


satellites - "orbit wobble" would not change the readings at all

balloons = "a shade issue" would be a CONSTANT and hence adding a CONSTANT to all data keeps a flat line a flat line, doesn't turn a flat line into a upward slope.


THERE IS NO ACTUAL DATA SHOWING ATMOSPHERIC WARMING, NONE.

Satellites, balloons, and surface air pressure all document NO ATMOSPHERIC WARMING.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

NOAA cuts the feed as Hurricane Melissa makes landfall on Jamaica

Not sus at all

 

[EMH]

NOAA cuts the feed as Hurricane Melissa makes landfall on Jamaica

Not sus at all

It is like a TS or a CAT 1 and they want to claim it is a CAT 4.

 

[Old Rocks]

Not according to the ACTUAL DATA....

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

This is absolutely pathetic. CO2 FRAUD aka oldrocks is arguing ocean rise is only visible after heavy rain events...


Actually, if there was an actual ocean rise, it would be visible 365 days a year, not just days after heavy rain...


But there is no ocean rise, and this is their "integrity" = ZERO.

So, you think that the US is the whole world. Typical dumb ass ignoramus. On a worldwide basis, hurricanes are becoming more numerous, stronger, and developing strength in a much shorter time. Melissa is a prime example of the rapid intensification we are now seeing in many of these cyclones.

 

[Old Rocks]

It is like a TS or a CAT 1 and they want to claim it is a CAT 4.

Well now, by tomorrow we will see what a liar you are. LOL Some measured gusts past 200 mph. Going to be a major storm surge.

 

[EMH]

Melissa is a prime example of the rapid intensification

LOL!!!

With the live feed TV cameras turned off...

Meanwhile, the Atlantic did not exactly have a "breakout" year for canes, did it?

Why not?

If oceans were warming, there would be an actual increase in hurricanes, but rather CO2 FRAUD tries to compare years where the satellites saw all storms to the pre satellite era where we only saw them when they hit land...

 

[EMH]

Well now, by tomorrow we will see what a liar you are. LOL Some measured gusts past 200 mph. Going to be a major storm surge.

Why did they cut the live feed off?

 

[Old Rocks]

Why did they cut the live feed off?

Maybe because it got dark, and you could not see anything. But here are some up to date satellite images;

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well now, by tomorrow we will see what a liar you are. LOL Some measured gusts past 200 mph. Going to be a major storm surge.

Why does NOAA cut the feed?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Well now, by tomorrow we will see what a liar you are. LOL Some measured gusts past 200 mph. Going to be a major storm surge.

Annnddd it is the ONLY tropical storm in the Atlantic could be the last one of the season with ZERO landfalls again as there have been fewer landfalls now since the 1950's for Florida.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Cat 5. Max sustained winds near 165 mph. Thats right on the edge of being a hurricane sized EF4 tornado.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIAPWSAT3+shtml/271447.shtml?

 

[Old Rocks]

Cat 5. Max sustained winds near 165 mph. Thats right on the edge of being a hurricane sized EF4 tornado.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIAPWSAT3+shtml/271447.shtml?

Now 175 mph winds and 906 pressure. Maybe sub-900 at landfall. This is a truly catastrophic hurricane.

 

[Old Rocks]

Annnddd it is the ONLY tropical storm in the Atlantic could be the last one of the season with ZERO landfalls again as there have been fewer landfalls now since the 1950's for Florida.

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Ah yes, another dolt that thinks the US and Florida are the only places that hurricanes make landfall. Tropical cyclones occur in all the oceans, and the total global count is what matters when considering the impact of AGW. And that count is increasing, as is the intensity of the cyclones. But the denial freakazoids will always find something to cherry pick to prove how ignorant and partisan they are. LOL

 

[Zincwarrior]

Now 175 mph winds and 906 pressure. Maybe sub-900 at landfall. This is a truly catastrophic hurricane.

Holy shit

 

[Mushroom]

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Want to see something even more funny?

I present to you Celsius Rock, in Sweden.

Now this is actually a very important rock to geologists, and was a key piece of the puzzle to understand glaciation and ice ages. And here is the story behind it.

Near the top you can see a line and above it "1731". In that year, Anders Celsius (yes the guy the temperature scale is named after) wanted to prove a belief he had that sea levels were falling. So he went to the Baltic Coast and made marks on a rock that was barely above sea level. He then went back multiple times, and each time the rock was rising higher and higher out of the water. To the point where now almost three centuries later it is almost completely out of the water.

However, he was wrong in that it was not the sea that was falling, the ground was rising. In this case because of glacial rebound. The same reason that the northern side of the Great Lakes are rising. The land is still trying to return to the level it was at before the ice sheets smashed it during the last ice age.

The same thing can be seen off the coast of the Pacific Northwest for a different reason. There, the ground is rising because of uplift from off-shore subduction. Some two to three meters worth since 1700. That is why in many areas old piers and wharfs are now largely sitting on the shore. The land they are resting on is rising.

But there, it's only until the next Cascadia Earthquake. When that happens, in an instant that land is going to sink from two to three meters and be back underwater.