in the US civil war

[Deadstick]

Britain was complicit in that. To fuel its cotton mills in Manchester.

Not the workers they went on strike to boycott slave Cotton which they refused to work with.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Not the workers they went on strike to boycott slave Cotton which they refused to work with.

They even wrote letters to Americans during the Civil War, begging them not to abolish slavery, because they would lose their jobs in the cotton mills. Despite abysmal conditions and payment!

 

[ShahdagMountains]

My Mums younger Sister married a former US airman and moved with him to America, she lived the rest of her life in Alabama not far from Montgomery she saw these people close up, in the fifties she saw huge KKK marches through her Town it would have been a real culture shock.

For me, the Jim crow laws were the most shameful era of American history.

 

[Quantrill]

Interesting. What is so great about the Confederacy?

The Confederacy, the Southern States, was formed as a result of States seceding from the United States Union. They seceded because they were no longer treated as equals under the Constitution by the Northern States.

"It was not the passage of the personal liberty laws, it was not the circulation of incendiary documents, it was not the raid of John Brown, it was not the operation of unjust and unequal tariff laws, nor all combined, that constituted the intolerable grievance, but it was the systematic and persistent struggle to deprive the Southern states of equality in the Union--generally to discriminate in legislation against the interests of their people; culminating in their exclusion from the territories, the common property of the states, as well as by the infraction of their compact to promote domestic tranquility. (The Rise And Fall Of The Confederate Government, Vol. 1, Jefferson Davis, Da Capo Press Inc., 1990, p. 70)

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[Zebra]

For me, the Jim crow laws were the most shameful era of American history.

it was Apartheid policy like in South Africa

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The Confederacy, the Southern States, was formed as a result of States seceding from the United States Union. They seceded because they were no longer treated as equals under the Constitution by the Northern States.

"It was not the passage of the personal liberty laws, it was not the circulation of incendiary documents, it was not the raid of John Brown, it was not the operation of unjust and unequal tariff laws, nor all combined, that constituted the intolerable grievance, but it was the systematic and persistent struggle to deprive the Southern states of equality in the Union--generally to discriminate in legislation against the interests of their people; culminating in their exclusion from the territories, the common property of the states, as well as by the infraction of their compact to promote domestic tranquility. (The Rise And Fall Of The Confederate Government, Vol. 1, Jefferson Davis, Da Capo Press Inc., 1990, p. 70)

Quantrill

They just wanted to own slaves.

 

[Zebra]

They just wanted to own slaves.

so it is

 

[Quantrill]

They just wanted to own slaves.

The already owned slaves.

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[braalian]

We all know that there’s a metric shit-ton of posters here who would wholeheartedly support the confederacy.

It will interesting if any of them have the guts to publicly vote so

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The already owned slaves.

Quantrill

Their betters were putting that right.

 

[Quantrill]

Their betters were putting that right.

It was already right. The other side were breaking the law, the Constitution.

Quantrill

 

[braalian]

Still no one’s voted for the South. Interesting….

 

[Bleipriester]

The Confederacy, the Southern States, was formed as a result of States seceding from the United States Union. They seceded because they were no longer treated as equals under the Constitution by the Northern States.

"It was not the passage of the personal liberty laws, it was not the circulation of incendiary documents, it was not the raid of John Brown, it was not the operation of unjust and unequal tariff laws, nor all combined, that constituted the intolerable grievance, but it was the systematic and persistent struggle to deprive the Southern states of equality in the Union--generally to discriminate in legislation against the interests of their people; culminating in their exclusion from the territories, the common property of the states, as well as by the infraction of their compact to promote domestic tranquility. (The Rise And Fall Of The Confederate Government, Vol. 1, Jefferson Davis, Da Capo Press Inc., 1990, p. 70)

Quantrill

They simply couldn´t do without slaves. A mere agricultural state without much industry.

 

[Quantrill]

They simply couldn´t do without slaves. A mere agricultural state without much industry.

Which has nothing to do with what we are talking about. The South had slaves because slavery was a legal institution. Protected by the Constitution. That you don't like it or that anyone doesn't like, is immaterial. The South was doing what was right by the law and protected by the law. Making the North, the lawbreakers. Making the North the traitors to the Constitution.

Quantrill

 

[Bleipriester]

Which has nothing to do with what we are talking about. The South had slaves because slavery was a legal institution. Protected by the Constitution. That you don't like it or that anyone doesn't like, is immaterial. The South was doing what was right by the law and protected by the law. Making the North, the lawbreakers. Making the North the traitors to the Constitution.

Quantrill

I didn´t even expressed an opinion. The vast amount of salves that suddenly go away or turn into wageworkers, would have caused the collapse of the economy.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I think there must be a sense of shame in supporting the slavers. There should be they were horrible people.

Most Confederate soldiers were fighting for their homes and states, not slavery. Only about one percent of Confederates owned slaves.

 

[Quantrill]

I didn´t even expressed an opinion. The vast amount of salves that suddenly go away or turn into wageworkers, would have caused the collapse of the economy.

Which the North cared nothing about, other then they didn't want all those freed slaves to come North.

Quantrill

 

[Zebra]

Still no one’s voted for the South. Interesting….

9 for the North now
still none for the South

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Most Confederate soldiers were fighting for their homes and states, not slavery. Only about one percent of Confederates owned slaves.

They were fighting for the right to own people. However you want to dress it that is what it boils down to.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Which the North cared nothing about, other then they didn't want all those freed slaves to come North.

Quantrill

And slavery was good for them as well. Fed,clothed and housed by massa.