In spite of Trump's efforts, 92% of new generation in the US last year was solar.

[westwall]

I think you know you're dishonest but don't care. You have a team to make noise for.

I actually have a solar system, do you? No.....so you're talking out your ass, like most lefties do.

I have skin in the game you don't. You're just another propagandist spewing crap because you don't KNOW, what you are talking about.

 

[Anomalism]

I actually have a solar system, do you? No.....so you're talking out your ass, like most lefties do.

I have skin in the game you don't. You're just another propagandist spewing crap because you don't KNOW, what you are talking about.

Uh huh.

Any time you provide that source I asked for we can continue the conversation.

 

[Hafar1014]

Solar and wind, the quickest to install, the least costly to build and maintain, racked up 92% of new generation in the US last year. And now battery storage has also plunged in price, and is considered an essential part of solar installations.

"For all the turbulence in Washington, the capacity figures tell a different story. Let me start with the numbers that clean energy analysts highlight: During a year full of headline grabbing destruction of U.S. clean energy policy, renewables still led new power additions, a trend detailed in an assessment that begins, “Let’s start with the numbers,” and notes that During Trump’s latest push against climate policy, renewables still expanded. One analysis of grid data found that 92% of all new electricity capacity added in the US was solar, with Trump’s efforts to slow the sector only making it more expensive for America to cling to older fuels."

MSN

Its the most expensive least reliable cant meet demand and must be subsidized. They lead new because nothing else has been built. Thats all over now as we move into the nuclear age supported by fossil fuels. Wind turbines have been canceled all over the country and in 10 years solar farms will be in the scrap yards.

 

[westwall]

Uh huh.

Any time you provide that source I asked for we can continue the conversation.

You first, propagandist.

 

[Hafar1014]

Uh huh.

Any time you provide that source I asked for we can continue the conversation.

Major study on global cost of climate change retracted. Here’s why

Authors have pulled a 2024 climate study after admitting that data errors had led them to overstate their findings.

www.euronews.com

Why was the climate study flawed?​

The study used historical data to project how changes in temperature and rainfall will affect economic growth.

However, researchers have since found errors in economic data from Uzbekistan from 1995 to 1999, which hugely skewed their findings.

They also argue that their analysis had underestimated statistical uncertainty, which measures how much a sample’s results might differ from the true value of the entire population.

The authors’ revised version corrects the underlying economic data, introduces additional controls to limit the influence of data anomalies and accounts for correlations across regions.

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The scientific consensus on climate change: How do we know we're not wrong?​

N Oreskes - Climate modelling: Philosophical and conceptual …, 2018 - Springer
… The most notable trend in the data is the recent increase in such papers; concerns about
global climate change have given a boost to research in paleoclimatology and to the …
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… The 38 papers selected for this study have all contributed to the gap in perception on
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[URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=VjcCKMsAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']EA Lloyd[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=UK9sjJMAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']N Oreskes[/URL] - Earth's Future, 2018 - Wiley Online Library
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M Klintman - Knowledge resistance, 2021 - manchesterhive.com
… posit the framing of [B]climate[/B] [B]change[/B] as a risk that threatens ‘purity’. [B]Climate[/B] [B]change[/B] leads to
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… of the most common denialist claims about [B]climate[/B] [B]change[/B] is designed to act as a resource
… If the argument is determined to be [B]invalid[/B], we next attempt to identify any hidden premises …
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JW Skiles - [B]Climatic change[/B], 1995 - ntrs.nasa.gov
… [B]Climate[/B] [B]change[/B] models have been linked to other models to predict … GCMs and the [B]climate
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… However, projected [B]climatic[/B] [B]changes[/B] render this assumption [B]invalid[/B]. Here, we summarize
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change[/B] to i) assess the veracity … logically [B]invalid[/B] because even if we assume all the premises …
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These stricter guidelines would have [B]invalidated[/B] in one sweep a large body of [B]research[/B] on the

 

[Anomalism]

You first, propagandist.

Sure. We'll do it once more just to show the room you're not interested in conversation, or anything other than shouting incoherent nonsense in support of your side.

My claim: Solar is a rapidly growing technology.

How has the efficiency of solar panels changed over the years

The efficiency of solar panels has undergone significant improvements over the years, driven by advancements in technology and materials. Here's a summary of th…

nenpower.com

Solar Panel: ZipDo Education Reports 2026

Plummeting costs have made solar power the world's cheapest electricity source.

zipdo.co

Solar Panel Efficiency Has Doubled: Here's What's Driving the Revolution - EU Solar

Solar technology is undergoing a revolutionary transformation that’s reshaping the energy landscape for businesses and institutions worldwide. Recent solar power …

www.eurosolar.com.au

---

Now, I've once again gone above and beyond. You're going to ignore the sources, double down on your ignorance and provide nothing of substance.


Annnd...go!

 

[Anomalism]

Major study on global cost of climate change retracted. Here’s why

Authors have pulled a 2024 climate study after admitting that data errors had led them to overstate their findings.

www.euronews.com

Why was the climate study flawed?​

The study used historical data to project how changes in temperature and rainfall will affect economic growth.

However, researchers have since found errors in economic data from Uzbekistan from 1995 to 1999, which hugely skewed their findings.

They also argue that their analysis had underestimated statistical uncertainty, which measures how much a sample’s results might differ from the true value of the entire population.

The authors’ revised version corrects the underlying economic data, introduces additional controls to limit the influence of data anomalies and accounts for correlations across regions.

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The scientific consensus on climate change: How do we know we're not wrong?​

N Oreskes - Climate modelling: Philosophical and conceptual …, 2018 - Springer
… The most notable trend in the data is the recent increase in such papers; concerns about
global climate change have given a boost to research in paleoclimatology and to the …
Save Cite Cited by 540 Related articles All 16 versions

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[HEADING=2][HTML][/HEADING]
[URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=KYAUZL4AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']RE Benestad[/URL], D Nuccitelli, [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=_A7rrswAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']S Lewandowsky[/URL]… - Theoretical and applied …, 2016 - Springer
… The 38 papers selected for this study have all contributed to the gap in perception on
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[URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=VjcCKMsAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']EA Lloyd[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=UK9sjJMAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']N Oreskes[/URL] - Earth's Future, 2018 - Wiley Online Library
… or risk ratio answer a particular form of [B]research[/B] question, namely “What is the probability
of a certain class of weather events, given global [B]climate[/B] [B]change[/B], relative to a world without?” …
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M Klintman - Knowledge resistance, 2021 - manchesterhive.com
… posit the framing of [B]climate[/B] [B]change[/B] as a risk that threatens ‘purity’. [B]Climate[/B] [B]change[/B] leads to
… [B]Research[/B] shows that the motivations of whistle- blowers to put the facts straight and unveil …
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[URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ZEN_Z2UAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']J Cook[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=TAn9-DEAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']P Ellerton[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=2PEGKVEAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']D Kinkead[/URL] - Environmental [B]Research [/B]Letters, 2018 - iopscience.iop.org
… of the most common denialist claims about [B]climate[/B] [B]change[/B] is designed to act as a resource
… If the argument is determined to be [B]invalid[/B], we next attempt to identify any hidden premises …
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[HEADING=2][URL='https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19970003259']Modeling [B]Climate Change [/B]in the Absence of [B]Climate Change [/B]Data. Editorial Comment[/URL][/HEADING]
JW Skiles - [B]Climatic change[/B], 1995 - ntrs.nasa.gov
… [B]Climate[/B] [B]change[/B] models have been linked to other models to predict … GCMs and the [B]climate
change[/B] predictions they produced, other [B]researchers[/B] … An [B]invalid[/B] but useful model duplicates …
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JM West, [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=k-x6KLEAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']SH Julius[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=JP8-tNAAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']P Kareiva[/URL], C Enquist… - Environmental …, 2009 - Springer
… However, projected [B]climatic[/B] [B]changes[/B] render this assumption [B]invalid[/B]. Here, we summarize
general principles for management adaptations that have emerged from a major literature …
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R Flack, [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ZEN_Z2UAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']J Cook[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=TAn9-DEAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']P Ellerton[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=2PEGKVEAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']D Kinkead[/URL], [URL='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Bn1q3fYAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra']T Coan[/URL]… - Online at https://osf. io …, 2024 - osf.io
… This [B]research[/B] is an example of such an interdisciplinary … contrarian claims about [B]climate
change[/B] to i) assess the veracity … logically [B]invalid[/B] because even if we assume all the premises …
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H Washington - 2013 - api.taylorfrancis.com
… We know now, from historical [B]research[/B], that while Nierenberg was chairing the [B]climate[/B] …
These stricter guidelines would have [B]invalidated[/B] in one sweep a large body of [B]research[/B] on the

What on Earth is this in reference to? Are you even reading the conversation?

 

[Mac-7]

Sure. We'll do it once more just to show the room you're not interested in conversation, or anything other than shouting incoherent nonsense in support of your side.

My claim: Solar is a rapidly growing technology.

How has the efficiency of solar panels changed over the years

The efficiency of solar panels has undergone significant improvements over the years, driven by advancements in technology and materials. Here's a summary of th…

nenpower.com

Solar Panel: ZipDo Education Reports 2026

Plummeting costs have made solar power the world's cheapest electricity source.

zipdo.co

Solar Panel Efficiency Has Doubled: Here's What's Driving the Revolution - EU Solar

Solar technology is undergoing a revolutionary transformation that’s reshaping the energy landscape for businesses and institutions worldwide. Recent solar power …

www.eurosolar.com.au

---

Now, I've once again gone above and beyond. You're going to ignore the sources, double down on your ignorance and provide nothing of substance.


Annnd...go!

I’m all for progress

Libs seem to think MAGAs want solar panels, ect to fail

We dont

But I do object to government, which is prone to failure, pushing solar through subsidies and at the same time working to suppress fossil fuel

 

[Anomalism]

I’m all for progress

Libs seem to think MAGAs want solar panels, ect to fail

We dont

But I do object to government, which is prone to failure, pushing solar through subsidies and at the same time working to suppress fossil fuel

Not everybody fits into a box. There are definitely people on this subforum that treat it like a football game, cheering for the other side to fail. Props on not being one.

 

[Hafar1014]

What on Earth is this in reference to? Are you even reading the conversation?

Invalid climate studies. The science is so flawed its laughable noiw

 

[Hafar1014]

Sure. We'll do it once more just to show the room you're not interested in conversation, or anything other than shouting incoherent nonsense in support of your side.

My claim: Solar is a rapidly growing technology.

How has the efficiency of solar panels changed over the years

The efficiency of solar panels has undergone significant improvements over the years, driven by advancements in technology and materials. Here's a summary of th…

nenpower.com

Solar Panel: ZipDo Education Reports 2026

Plummeting costs have made solar power the world's cheapest electricity source.

zipdo.co

Solar Panel Efficiency Has Doubled: Here's What's Driving the Revolution - EU Solar

Solar technology is undergoing a revolutionary transformation that’s reshaping the energy landscape for businesses and institutions worldwide. Recent solar power …

www.eurosolar.com.au

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Now, I've once again gone above and beyond. You're going to ignore the sources, double down on your ignorance and provide nothing of substance.


Annnd...go!

Does it work at night yet? How efficient is it on cloudy days?

 

[Anomalism]

Invalid climate studies. The science is so flawed its laughable noiw

Does it work at night yet? How efficient is it on cloudy days?

You're not even part of the conversation anymore. You're just yelling at the sky. You remind me of that Simpsons meme.

"Old man yells at cloud."

 

[Sunsettommy]

And what happens to Oil Wells and Coal Mines when they are no longer producing?

Oil wells are still owned by oil companies as they are refilling over time as for Coal mines........... come on what do you think.

 

[westwall]

Sure. We'll do it once more just to show the room you're not interested in conversation, or anything other than shouting incoherent nonsense in support of your side.

My claim: Solar is a rapidly growing technology.

How has the efficiency of solar panels changed over the years

The efficiency of solar panels has undergone significant improvements over the years, driven by advancements in technology and materials. Here's a summary of th…

nenpower.com

Solar Panel: ZipDo Education Reports 2026

Plummeting costs have made solar power the world's cheapest electricity source.

zipdo.co

Solar Panel Efficiency Has Doubled: Here's What's Driving the Revolution - EU Solar

Solar technology is undergoing a revolutionary transformation that’s reshaping the energy landscape for businesses and institutions worldwide. Recent solar power …

www.eurosolar.com.au

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Now, I've once again gone above and beyond. You're going to ignore the sources, double down on your ignorance and provide nothing of substance.


Annnd...go!

Sooo, opinion pieces. Now show the class the reality. In other words show how much the modules cost, and their output.

 

[Anomalism]

Sooo, opinion pieces. Now show the class the reality. In other words show how much the modules cost, and their output.

You're just trolling at this point. You haven't sourced any of your claims, even when asked. Including your novel interpretation of dynamics that contradicts our basic understanding of it. You should hurry and get that published.

 

[Old Rocks]

Its the most expensive least reliable cant meet demand and must be subsidized. They lead new because nothing else has been built. Thats all over now as we move into the nuclear age supported by fossil fuels. Wind turbines have been canceled all over the country and in 10 years solar farms will be in the scrap yards.

Silly ass, I have shown you repeatedly through the Lazard site that unsubsidized, solar is still the least expensive and quickest to build of all the generation. Nuclear is very expensive, and fossil fuels are causing major problems of pollution on land and in the atmosphere. In twenty years the solar panels in industrial sites will be replaced with much more efficient panels, and since the old panels still have decades of life in them, they will be sold for smaller sites at great discounts. No, the wind turbines are not being canceled in spite of the malodorous mangos attempts. In fact, I would love to have a bank account growing at the rate that they are increasing;

36%
The U.S. is expected to add more than 7 gigawatts (GW) of wind installations in 2025, marking a 36% increase over the previous year. This growth is part of a broader trend, with the U.S. planning to add 46 GW of new wind capacity from 2025 to 2029. The increase is attributed to a combination of factors, including rising power demand, higher turbine costs, tariff uncertainty, and permitting delays. The market is expected to see a noticeable drop off in 2029, following project cancellations and inactive designations for late-decade capacity.

Wood Mackenzie+2
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=204c...0eS1pbi0yMDI1LTM2LW1vcmUtdGhhbi0yMDI0Lw&ntb=1
Strange you have to lie so much to support your whackdoodle nonsense.

 

[Old Rocks]

You're just trolling at this point. You haven't sourced any of your claims, even when asked. Including your novel interpretation of dynamics that contradicts our basic understanding of it. You should hurry and get that published.

Ol' Westy claims to be a PhD geologist. I regularly listen to the December lectures at the AGU annual meetings. I have yet to hear one that challenges the fact of global warming, the climate change it produces, and the fact that we are the cause of it. He claims to be a member of that organization, so I have challenged him to go ahead and deliver a lecture at that meeting. Of course he cannot because he would be laughed out of the room for lack of any supporting evidence. He has no valid sources, just nonsensical flapyap.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sooo, opinion pieces. Now show the class the reality. In other words show how much the modules cost, and their output.

You can easily find out all of that on that device setting right in front of you. But you will not because you know that what you post is nonsense.

 

[Old Rocks]

Does it work at night yet? How efficient is it on cloudy days?

LOL Afraid to actually address what was posted, aren't you. Solar is rapidly expanding worldwide because it is the least expensive form of electrical generation, and the quickest to install. Storage is rapidly expanding worldwide as it makes the grid more robust and decreases grid failure. Also, far cheaper and hugely quicker as a peaker backup. But you know all of that, you are just posting idiocy because your favorite felon likes it.

 

[theHawk]

Solar and wind, the quickest to install, the least costly to build and maintain, racked up 92% of new generation in the US last year. And now battery storage has also plunged in price, and is considered an essential part of solar installations.

"For all the turbulence in Washington, the capacity figures tell a different story. Let me start with the numbers that clean energy analysts highlight: During a year full of headline grabbing destruction of U.S. clean energy policy, renewables still led new power additions, a trend detailed in an assessment that begins, “Let’s start with the numbers,” and notes that During Trump’s latest push against climate policy, renewables still expanded. One analysis of grid data found that 92% of all new electricity capacity added in the US was solar, with Trump’s efforts to slow the sector only making it more expensive for America to cling to older fuels."

MSN

What a crock of shit.

I know in our region solar and wind only produce 3% of our power.

92% of “new power” just means no new generation of other types has been setup in that time period. But we will start going back to coal.

Hydro dams like Hoover are at record lows, and almost no snowpack in the Rockies means it isn’t going up anytime soon. Solar and wind are a joke because they can’t ramp up power when you need it to.