In light of the Texas church massacre I want to head off the gun control debate with a few facts.

[Tresha91203]

Wont happen

This kind of horror is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

I disagree on both points.

If you approach a conversation level headed & keep your emotions in check you can have a civil discussion. You set the tone with your input.

It is NOT an acceptable risk.

Sure it is. That's why we live here and not move away to say Europe or Austrailia

-Geaux

I live here because I was born here. Has nothing to do with anything else. I suspect it is the same for the vast majority of Americans.
It is on our shoulders to try to mitigate as much horror as we can not throw our hands up and say "oh well"

We need some serious mental institutions, and I'm not joking. It is practically impossible to convince a nut he needs help. If he doesn't want help, we can't make him get help and he's free to be a nut among innocent, unsuspecting people. I don't want to go back to the days you could institutionalize your wife rather than divorce her, but clearly this needs to be fixed.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Wont happen

This kind of horror is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

I disagree on both points.

If you approach a conversation level headed & keep your emotions in check you can have a civil discussion. You set the tone with your input.

It is NOT an acceptable risk.

Sure it is. That's why we live here and not move away to say Europe or Austrailia

-Geaux

I live here because I was born here. Has nothing to do with anything else. I suspect it is the same for the vast majority of Americans.
It is on our shoulders to try to mitigate as much horror as we can not throw our hands up and say "oh well"

We need some serious mental institutions, and I'm not joking. It is practically impossible to convince a nut he needs help. If he doesn't want help, we can't make him get help and he's free to be a nut among innocent, unsuspecting people. I don't want to go back to the days you could institutionalize your wife rather than divorce her, but clearly this needs to be fixed.

There is a fine line to be straddled.

Minority Report with Tom Cruise comes to mind

 

[cnm]

So who said a good guy with a gun is a guarantee to stop a bad guy with a gun? Nobody. They said the "only way" to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun; no guarantee offered.

Ignoring completely the concept of keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys because it might make it harder for you to access firearms.

 

[cnm]

Usually leftards want to propose anti constitutional nonsense.

Shirley it's time to change the Constitution. Then no one will be able to moan 'it's anti Constitutional' while waiting for the next one.

Well, you have to convince 3/4 of this country… Good luck asshole

Yeah, it seems the country is quite happy to have dead churchgoers and school kids as the price of easy access to firearms. A bargain all right.

 

[Tresha91203]

Wont happen

This kind of horror is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

I disagree on both points.

If you approach a conversation level headed & keep your emotions in check you can have a civil discussion. You set the tone with your input.

It is NOT an acceptable risk.

Sure it is. That's why we live here and not move away to say Europe or Austrailia

-Geaux

I live here because I was born here. Has nothing to do with anything else. I suspect it is the same for the vast majority of Americans.
It is on our shoulders to try to mitigate as much horror as we can not throw our hands up and say "oh well"

We need some serious mental institutions, and I'm not joking. It is practically impossible to convince a nut he needs help. If he doesn't want help, we can't make him get help and he's free to be a nut among innocent, unsuspecting people. I don't want to go back to the days you could institutionalize your wife rather than divorce her, but clearly this needs to be fixed.

There is a fine line to be straddled.

Minority Report with Tom Cruise comes to mind

I think we're leaning too far and aren't straddling. Maybe I'm the crazy one. It just seems nutjobs abound the past 15 years or so.

 

[cnm]

So where does the NRA get their money from? That's right, citizens who support their organization.

Less than half of the NRA's income is from membership dues and program fees; the majority is from contributions, grants, royalties, and advertising.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

 

[RDD_1210]

Events like this are good business for the NRA.

We will never see a real solution to gun violence in this country as long as we allow companies and organizations to influence our politicians through financial donations.

As long as we allow the NRA to buy our politicians off we will never do anything about this. Ever.

So where does the NRA get their money from? That's right, citizens who support their organization.

Welcome to the real world of politics. The NRA is no different than the countless unions that contribute to the Democrat party, the many environmental organizations that contribute to the Democrat party, the millions that trial lawyers contribute to the Democrat party.

Ok and?

I want all political donations banned. No politicians should be able to have policy decisions influenced because someone gave them money.

 

[Rustic]

Usually leftards want to propose anti constitutional nonsense.

Shirley it's time to change the Constitution. Then no one will be able to moan 'it's anti Constitutional' while waiting for the next one.

Well, you have to convince 3/4 of this country… Good luck asshole

Yeah, it seems the country is quite happy to have dead churchgoers and school kids as the price of easy access to firearms. A bargain all right.

People kill people firearms do not... Firearms have no control over people. No amount frivolous gun laws will save a soul. Dip shit

 

[Rustic]

So where does the NRA get their money from? That's right, citizens who support their organization.

Less than half of the NRA's income is from membership dues and program fees; the majority is from contributions, grants, royalties, and advertising.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Coyote]

1. The only thing that would cut down on this kind of shit is a complete gun ban coordinated with a confiscation program.
1a. That is a literal impossiility for two reasons. The constitution & there are more guns in the wild than citizens.

2. Criminals DO NOT OBEY LAWS.

3.People who go into some kind of rage based on emotions DO NOT THINK THEIR ACTIONS THROUGH.

4. Focus your anger/outrage where it can actually have a positive outcome. Our problems do not stem from the gun, they stem from the human condition and all the complications that go with it.

5. Remember point number 1.

Now why couldn't you make the same points about Muslims when a Muslim nutter drove his truck through a crowd in NYC? Your thread then was quite different.

 

[skookerasbil]

Wont happen

This kind of horror is acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

I disagree on both points.

If you approach a conversation level headed & keep your emotions in check you can have a civil discussion. You set the tone with your input.

It is NOT an acceptable risk.

Sure it is. That's why we live h7 ere and not move away to say Europe or Austrailia

-Geaux

They won't accept you in in those places, dupe. This is just what you get after 35 years of the new b******* GOP ruining the country... The ruin of the middle class and the country and guns everywhere mainly handguns and assault rifles with plenty of conversion kits to make them basically automatic. Great idea, dupes...

Should we ban nails too s0n? How about glassware? That can be pretty dangerous, ya know!! Rubber mallets..........how about those?

Gawd.........every unicorn chaser in America will be preaching about Disney shit all week.........go, go! Nobody will be caring. We'll be keeping our firearms, thanks!!

 

[dudmuck]

 

[francoHFW]

If the neighbor would have been prohibited his gun, why would the shooter have his own?

We have sown the seeds of high power firearms. Now we must reap the whirlwind.

For the same reason convicted felons have firearms for their crimes today. Criminals will get guns no matter what laws are created. All laws do is stop good people from getting firearms. The criminals will always have them. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!!!!

That's so stupid since if they're illegal they can be taken away from the criminals and put them away and there are also many mental cases buying guns like the guy in Las Vegas and if we had a good background system they wouldn't be able to buy them. You're brainwashed dupe arguments are ridiculous...

 

[Lakhota]

In light of the Texas church massacre I want to head off the gun control debate with a few facts.

Here is a fact to consider: When has a homegrown nut ever gone on a killing spree with a single-shot .22?

 

[Slyhunter]

If the neighbor would have been prohibited his gun, why would the shooter have his own?

We have sown the seeds of high power firearms. Now we must reap the whirlwind.

For the same reason convicted felons have firearms for their crimes today. Criminals will get guns no matter what laws are created. All laws do is stop good people from getting firearms. The criminals will always have them. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!!!!

That's so stupid since if they're illegal they can be taken away from the criminals and put them away and there are also many mental cases buying guns like the guy in Las Vegas and if we had a good background system they wouldn't be able to buy them. You're brainwashed dupe arguments are ridiculous...

just take the guns away from the criminals and put them away. How would you go about doing that?

 

[Slyhunter]

In light of the Texas church massacre I want to head off the gun control debate with a few facts.

Here is a fact to consider: When has a homegrown nut ever gone on a killing spree with a single-shot .22?

or a Car, or a knife. Doesn't have to be a gun.

 

[francoHFW]

If the neighbor would have been prohibited his gun, why would the shooter have his own?

We have sown the seeds of high power firearms. Now we must reap the whirlwind.

For the same reason convicted felons have firearms for their crimes today. Criminals will get guns no matter what laws are created. All laws do is stop good people from getting firearms. The criminals will always have them. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!!!!

That's so stupid since if they're illegal they can be taken away from the criminals and put them away and there are also many mental cases buying guns like the guy in Las Vegas and if we had a good background system they wouldn't be able to buy them. You're brainwashed dupe arguments are ridiculous...

just take the guns away from the criminals and put them away. How would you go about doing that?

If you have laws and regulations on guns it's pretty damn obvious... You want a diagram?

 

[Lakhota]

In light of the Texas church massacre I want to head off the gun control debate with a few facts.

Here is a fact to consider: When has a homegrown nut ever gone on a killing spree with a single-shot .22?

or a Car, or a knife. Doesn't have to be a gun.

The primary purpose of cars and knives isn't to kill. When did you ever butter your bread with a gun?

 

[francoHFW]

We already have extreme vetting since 2011

 

[NYcarbineer]

2. Criminals DO NOT OBEY LAWS.

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What is that supposed to prove? What is that supposed to make an argument for? There is no need for laws?