Illegal Employer Problem

[danielpalos]

just my perception of the right wing.

i have no confidence in their sincerity.

Trump won't go after illegal employers but he will waste taxpayer money putting migrants in prison just to score political points.

Trump Administration Prosecutes Migrant Workers Arrested In Mississippi ICE Raid
Forty-one of the workers face criminal prosecution under immigration laws

Immigration officials rounded up some 680 unauthorized migrants working at the plants

You telling me the company didn't know 680 of their employees were unauthorized? Impossible.

Critics like immigration lawyer David Leopold contend that ICE’s worksite investigations should focus on employers who exploit undocumented labor, rather than on workers.

One of the workers charged with felony reentry had been sent back to Mexico twice in 2006, after getting arrested both times at the border in Calexico, California. After finally making his way past the border, immigration officials arrested him during a 2008 worksite raid of Howard Industries in Laurel, Mississippi. At the time, it was the largest single-state worksite operation in ICE history, with 600 arrests.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mississippi doesn't have any sanctuary cities right?

Who should be going to jail? The owner of Koch Industries and Howard Industries. Are you trying to tell me Mr. Koch didn't hear about the raid on Howard Industries in 2008?

I read the entire article. Not one mention of going after the illegal employer.

I think we are wasting money on border policy. Why are we losing money?

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

You miss the point. We need better solutions. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should not be losing money on border policy with a naturalization clause.

Give us your plan to fix America.

Solve simple poverty and our immigration problem by being more faithful to our Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

Do you think we have a security problem? Are you in the militia?

We currently have security problems we should not have. And, i am not in the organized militia. Draft gun lovers, first!

Does federal law not cover the unorganized militia? Are you saying you are or are not a part of it?

I am saying, only the unorganized militia whines about gun control.

The left obsesses over gun control to the point that they will NEVER discuss prevention strategies instead of gun control.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and regulate them well.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Trump won't go after illegal employers but he will waste taxpayer money putting migrants in prison just to score political points.

Trump Administration Prosecutes Migrant Workers Arrested In Mississippi ICE Raid
Forty-one of the workers face criminal prosecution under immigration laws

Immigration officials rounded up some 680 unauthorized migrants working at the plants

You telling me the company didn't know 680 of their employees were unauthorized? Impossible.

Critics like immigration lawyer David Leopold contend that ICE’s worksite investigations should focus on employers who exploit undocumented labor, rather than on workers.

One of the workers charged with felony reentry had been sent back to Mexico twice in 2006, after getting arrested both times at the border in Calexico, California. After finally making his way past the border, immigration officials arrested him during a 2008 worksite raid of Howard Industries in Laurel, Mississippi. At the time, it was the largest single-state worksite operation in ICE history, with 600 arrests.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mississippi doesn't have any sanctuary cities right?

Who should be going to jail? The owner of Koch Industries and Howard Industries. Are you trying to tell me Mr. Koch didn't hear about the raid on Howard Industries in 2008?

I read the entire article. Not one mention of going after the illegal employer.

I think we are wasting money on border policy. Why are we losing money?

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

I've never seen a product labelled "Proudly Made by Illegal Labor".

I guess some folks need a boulder to fall on their head in order to get it. Most undocumented workers in America are working in landscaping, fast food, retail, and other service industries.

If you know of a company with a high percentage of non-white workers, then you know it is what it is.

I don't know what "illegal" labor is. The federal government has no de jure / constitutional authority over who an employer hires as long as we still have a Right to own property. They may have the power, but they absolutely have no authority. So, let me guess, you don't believe in the Rule of Law when the government infringes on private business to your benefit?

We can deal in realities or not.

I don't know what reality you deal in, but the bottom line to all bottom lines is that right always bitches, moans, groans, cries and complains about a Rule of Law. Is that not true? Is it also not true that when the that "Rule of Law" works for you, you're all for it? Have you ever read the Tenth Amendment? Probably not, so let me quote it for you:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You and I have an unalienable Right to own property. Employers own the jobs they create. NOBODY has the de jure / constitutional authority to limit who the employer can or cannot hire. So, about that "Rule of Law,":

If not for the United States Supreme Court illegally bestowing upon Congress plenary powers over foreigners to Congress, it would be a state's prerogative as to whether a foreigner could or could not work in the United States. You cannot show me a single sentence in the United States Constitution that gives the United States Supreme Court ANY authority to grant to another branch of government any power. So, where is your "Rule of Law" now?

The 14th Amendment was illegally ratified and it repealed all unalienable Rights, replacing them with government granted rights... which helps you prop up the socialist immigration laws put into place by Democrats. So, you don't really have a Bill of Rights except to the extent that the United States Supreme Court wants to dole them out and claim they grant you your Rights. Today, you don't really have any Right to own a firearm, own property, voice your opinions in public... Where is your "Rule of Law" now?

You are being a Democrat wannabe, hiding behind immigration laws that were designed to dilute the white peoples vote. You'd better see this ASAP:

Stolen Rights

Now THAT'S reality.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Do you think we have a security problem? Are you in the militia?

We currently have security problems we should not have. And, i am not in the organized militia. Draft gun lovers, first!

Does federal law not cover the unorganized militia? Are you saying you are or are not a part of it?

I am saying, only the unorganized militia whines about gun control.

The left obsesses over gun control to the point that they will NEVER discuss prevention strategies instead of gun control.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and regulate them well.

How do you grab gun lovers?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Trump won't go after illegal employers but he will waste taxpayer money putting migrants in prison just to score political points.

Trump Administration Prosecutes Migrant Workers Arrested In Mississippi ICE Raid
Forty-one of the workers face criminal prosecution under immigration laws

Immigration officials rounded up some 680 unauthorized migrants working at the plants

You telling me the company didn't know 680 of their employees were unauthorized? Impossible.

Critics like immigration lawyer David Leopold contend that ICE’s worksite investigations should focus on employers who exploit undocumented labor, rather than on workers.

One of the workers charged with felony reentry had been sent back to Mexico twice in 2006, after getting arrested both times at the border in Calexico, California. After finally making his way past the border, immigration officials arrested him during a 2008 worksite raid of Howard Industries in Laurel, Mississippi. At the time, it was the largest single-state worksite operation in ICE history, with 600 arrests.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mississippi doesn't have any sanctuary cities right?

Who should be going to jail? The owner of Koch Industries and Howard Industries. Are you trying to tell me Mr. Koch didn't hear about the raid on Howard Industries in 2008?

I read the entire article. Not one mention of going after the illegal employer.

I think we are wasting money on border policy. Why are we losing money?

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

You miss the point. We need better solutions. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should not be losing money on border policy with a naturalization clause.

Give us your plan to fix America.

Solve simple poverty and our immigration problem by being more faithful to our Constitution.

Is that another way of saying raise the minimum wage?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

Here are three great articles on the subject:

ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Fallacy and chicken and egg situation. They are hiring them because libs supply them in an unending stream. I know an employer that would call Immigration and say they discovered some in their employ, fire the whole lot and hire new ones to stay on good side of govt. Made it look like they took the law serious. I would also ask how many illegals are self employed and pay zero taxes.

 

[pknopp]

I think we are wasting money on border policy. Why are we losing money?

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

I've never seen a product labelled "Proudly Made by Illegal Labor".

I guess some folks need a boulder to fall on their head in order to get it. Most undocumented workers in America are working in landscaping, fast food, retail, and other service industries.

If you know of a company with a high percentage of non-white workers, then you know it is what it is.

I don't know what "illegal" labor is. The federal government has no de jure / constitutional authority over who an employer hires as long as we still have a Right to own property. They may have the power, but they absolutely have no authority. So, let me guess, you don't believe in the Rule of Law when the government infringes on private business to your benefit?

We can deal in realities or not.

I don't know what reality you deal in, but the bottom line to all bottom lines is that right always bitches, moans, groans, cries and complains about a Rule of Law. Is that not true? Is it also not true that when the that "Rule of Law" works for you, you're all for it? Have you ever read the Tenth Amendment? Probably not, so let me quote it for you:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You and I have an unalienable Right to own property. Employers own the jobs they create. NOBODY has the de jure / constitutional authority to limit who the employer can or cannot hire. So, about that "Rule of Law,":

If not for the United States Supreme Court illegally bestowing upon Congress plenary powers over foreigners to Congress, it would be a state's prerogative as to whether a foreigner could or could not work in the United States. You cannot show me a single sentence in the United States Constitution that gives the United States Supreme Court ANY authority to grant to another branch of government any power. So, where is your "Rule of Law" now?

The 14th Amendment was illegally ratified and it repealed all unalienable Rights, replacing them with government granted rights... which helps you prop up the socialist immigration laws put into place by Democrats. So, you don't really have a Bill of Rights except to the extent that the United States Supreme Court wants to dole them out and claim they grant you your Rights. Today, you don't really have any Right to own a firearm, own property, voice your opinions in public... Where is your "Rule of Law" now?

You are being a Democrat wannabe, hiding behind immigration laws that were designed to dilute the white peoples vote. You'd better see this ASAP:

Stolen Rights

Now THAT'S reality.

Go for it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The fact that employers hiring undocumented workers is not an issue for Republicans demonstrates that the right’s unwarranted hostility toward immigrants has nothing to do with alleged violations of immigration law and everything to do with rightwing hate and bigotry directed at Hispanic immigrants.

 

[danielpalos]

We currently have security problems we should not have. And, i am not in the organized militia. Draft gun lovers, first!

Does federal law not cover the unorganized militia? Are you saying you are or are not a part of it?

I am saying, only the unorganized militia whines about gun control.

The left obsesses over gun control to the point that they will NEVER discuss prevention strategies instead of gun control.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and regulate them well.

How do you grab gun lovers?

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[danielpalos]

I think we are wasting money on border policy. Why are we losing money?

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

You miss the point. We need better solutions. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should not be losing money on border policy with a naturalization clause.

Give us your plan to fix America.

Solve simple poverty and our immigration problem by being more faithful to our Constitution.

Is that another way of saying raise the minimum wage?

...part of it.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

America is wasting money because we can and DO control the flow of foreigners in and out of America. The anti-immigrants don't want to admit that walls and the forfeiture of Rights will not stop it.

Only the American people can stop the flow of foreigners in and out of America. They have to change their culture and pursue the drug culture the way the left pursues anything they deem "racist."

You have to voluntarily boycott those who do business with foreigners and support American made and American owned businesses that have NO foreigners working for them. The government cannot save you from yourself.

You miss the point. We need better solutions. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should not be losing money on border policy with a naturalization clause.

Give us your plan to fix America.

Solve simple poverty and our immigration problem by being more faithful to our Constitution.

Is that another way of saying raise the minimum wage?

...part of it.

Okay, raise the minimum wage. What's next?

 

[danielpalos]

You miss the point. We need better solutions. Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause. We should not be losing money on border policy with a naturalization clause.

Give us your plan to fix America.

Solve simple poverty and our immigration problem by being more faithful to our Constitution.

Is that another way of saying raise the minimum wage?

...part of it.

Okay, raise the minimum wage. What's next?

solve simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

Here are three great articles on the subject:

ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Fallacy and chicken and egg situation. They are hiring them because libs supply them in an unending stream. I know an employer that would call Immigration and say they discovered some in their employ, fire the whole lot and hire new ones to stay on good side of govt. Made it look like they took the law serious. I would also ask how many illegals are self employed and pay zero taxes.

1) NOBODY avoids taxes

2) According to the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same taxes you do

3) The income tax is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto and was, supposedly, a voluntary tax when it started out. It is interesting that you are promoting an illegal tax that was taken from the pages of the Communist Manifesto

4) Foreign labor is here because times are good and a lot of the American citizenry that is not working don't want to work. Nobody is fooling anyone here. America has more people in prison than any nation on this planet. All that B.S. from the right about the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and background checks has helped locked many Americans out of the system.

Many people are living in mommy's house, NOT PAYING THE INCOME TAX, and preferring mommy's free rent, the taxpayer giving them upwards of $200 a month for food on a debit card, and occasional drugs they sell for a friend to pay for their own pot habit.

5) The federal government has NO de jure / lawful / constitutional authority to tell me who I can and cannot hire.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Sealybobo, I agree that the repubs, do not help the situation at all with their hiring of illegals. However I also see that the majority, if not all, mayors of sanctuary cities are dems { I cannot think of a mayor who is a repub doing this}. Also dems also own business and hire illegals. So what we get is a bunch of bloviating rhetoric from both sides while the problem continues. All I can think of when it comes to our politicans "talking" about solving problems is Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles pounding his desk saying "we have to protect our phoney baloney jobs gentelmen". Alot of talk, while things continue to deteroriate and nothing really worth while gets accomplished. IMHO.

Most Mayors, City Counsels and houses of worship in Sanctuary Cities are protecting families who have been in the US for decades, from the outrageous anti-humanitarian policies of trump. They do not protect rapists, murderers and other assorted felons be they citizens or not.

Ask yourself why business and industry have not been fined, and the CEO's and HR Managers are not arrested, detained and when convicted be imprisoned for fraud, and be required to personally pay restitution to SS and Medicare.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

Here are three great articles on the subject:

ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Fallacy and chicken and egg situation. They are hiring them because libs supply them in an unending stream. I know an employer that would call Immigration and say they discovered some in their employ, fire the whole lot and hire new ones to stay on good side of govt. Made it look like they took the law serious. I would also ask how many illegals are self employed and pay zero taxes.

1) NOBODY avoids taxes

2) According to the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same taxes you do

3) The income tax is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto and was, supposedly, a voluntary tax when it started out. It is interesting that you are promoting an illegal tax that was taken from the pages of the Communist Manifesto

4) Foreign labor is here because times are good and a lot of the American citizenry that is not working don't want to work. Nobody is fooling anyone here. America has more people in prison than any nation on this planet. All that B.S. from the right about the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and background checks has helped locked many Americans out of the system.

Many people are living in mommy's house, NOT PAYING THE INCOME TAX, and preferring mommy's free rent, the taxpayer giving them upwards of $200 a month for food on a debit card, and occasional drugs they sell for a friend to pay for their own pot habit.

5) The federal government has NO de jure / lawful / constitutional authority to tell me who I can and cannot hire.

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation is better. Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

Here are three great articles on the subject:

ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Fallacy and chicken and egg situation. They are hiring them because libs supply them in an unending stream. I know an employer that would call Immigration and say they discovered some in their employ, fire the whole lot and hire new ones to stay on good side of govt. Made it look like they took the law serious. I would also ask how many illegals are self employed and pay zero taxes.

1) NOBODY avoids taxes

2) According to the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same taxes you do

3) The income tax is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto and was, supposedly, a voluntary tax when it started out. It is interesting that you are promoting an illegal tax that was taken from the pages of the Communist Manifesto

4) Foreign labor is here because times are good and a lot of the American citizenry that is not working don't want to work. Nobody is fooling anyone here. America has more people in prison than any nation on this planet. All that B.S. from the right about the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and background checks has helped locked many Americans out of the system.

Many people are living in mommy's house, NOT PAYING THE INCOME TAX, and preferring mommy's free rent, the taxpayer giving them upwards of $200 a month for food on a debit card, and occasional drugs they sell for a friend to pay for their own pot habit.

5) The federal government has NO de jure / lawful / constitutional authority to tell me who I can and cannot hire.

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation is better. Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

I will wait and see if that evokes any response from anyone else before I even try to draw a conclusion there.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Sealybobo, I agree that the repubs, do not help the situation at all with their hiring of illegals. However I also see that the majority, if not all, mayors of sanctuary cities are dems { I cannot think of a mayor who is a repub doing this}. Also dems also own business and hire illegals. So what we get is a bunch of bloviating rhetoric from both sides while the problem continues. All I can think of when it comes to our politicans "talking" about solving problems is Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles pounding his desk saying "we have to protect our phoney baloney jobs gentelmen". Alot of talk, while things continue to deteroriate and nothing really worth while gets accomplished. IMHO.

Most Mayors, City Counsels and houses of worship in Sanctuary Cities are protecting families who have been in the US for decades, from the outrageous anti-humanitarian policies of trump. They do not protect rapists, murderers and other assorted felons be they citizens or not.

Ask yourself why business and industry have not been fined, and the CEO's and HR Managers are not arrested, detained and when convicted be imprisoned for fraud, and be required to personally pay restitution to SS and Medicare.

I keep pointing one thing out and it amazes me that the left is more oblivious to this than the right is:

The Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration claims that about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners pay the income tax using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. I'm beginning to think that more liberals know WHY the Ds and the Rs played musical chairs on the immigration issue and today the right sounds like Bill Clinton.

 

[Manonthestreet]

2) According to the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same taxes you do
You just contradicted yourself and I doubt that people that dont want to found are suddenly able to be quantified but the number fluctuates by millions lending little credence to your post

 

[Wry Catcher]

Sealybobo, I agree that the repubs, do not help the situation at all with their hiring of illegals. However I also see that the majority, if not all, mayors of sanctuary cities are dems { I cannot think of a mayor who is a repub doing this}. Also dems also own business and hire illegals. So what we get is a bunch of bloviating rhetoric from both sides while the problem continues. All I can think of when it comes to our politicans "talking" about solving problems is Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles pounding his desk saying "we have to protect our phoney baloney jobs gentelmen". Alot of talk, while things continue to deteroriate and nothing really worth while gets accomplished. IMHO.

Most Mayors, City Counsels and houses of worship in Sanctuary Cities are protecting families who have been in the US for decades, from the outrageous anti-humanitarian policies of trump. They do not protect rapists, murderers and other assorted felons be they citizens or not.

Ask yourself why business and industry have not been fined, and the CEO's and HR Managers are not arrested, detained and when convicted be imprisoned for fraud, and be required to personally pay restitution to SS and Medicare.

I keep pointing one thing out and it amazes me that the left is more oblivious to this than the right is:

The Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration claims that about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners pay the income tax using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. I'm beginning to think that more liberals know WHY the Ds and the Rs played musical chairs on the immigration issue and today the right sounds like Bill Clinton.

Please elaborate, and leave out the Socialist Security Administration if you want to be considered credible.

SS and Medicare are here to stay, they are not in any way a Ponzi Scheme (a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors) or Socialism.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

Here are three great articles on the subject:

ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Fallacy and chicken and egg situation. They are hiring them because libs supply them in an unending stream. I know an employer that would call Immigration and say they discovered some in their employ, fire the whole lot and hire new ones to stay on good side of govt. Made it look like they took the law serious. I would also ask how many illegals are self employed and pay zero taxes.

1) NOBODY avoids taxes

2) According to the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of all undocumented foreigners get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same taxes you do

3) The income tax is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto and was, supposedly, a voluntary tax when it started out. It is interesting that you are promoting an illegal tax that was taken from the pages of the Communist Manifesto

4) Foreign labor is here because times are good and a lot of the American citizenry that is not working don't want to work. Nobody is fooling anyone here. America has more people in prison than any nation on this planet. All that B.S. from the right about the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and background checks has helped locked many Americans out of the system.

Many people are living in mommy's house, NOT PAYING THE INCOME TAX, and preferring mommy's free rent, the taxpayer giving them upwards of $200 a month for food on a debit card, and occasional drugs they sell for a friend to pay for their own pot habit.

5) The federal government has NO de jure / lawful / constitutional authority to tell me who I can and cannot hire.

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation is better. Labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

I will wait and see if that evokes any response from anyone else before I even try to draw a conclusion there.

Don't believe in equal protection of the law for the Poor, only the Rich?