The Joys of State Run Healthcare

[Weatherman2020]

One needs to only observe Canada and the UK to learn what government run healthcare is about.

Neglected Parkinson's patient, 73, calls 999 for help... from his own hospital bed after being denied painkillers because he was 'not a priority'​

The 73-year-old was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and even left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay in hospital, he claimed. Other patients nearby were also shouting and screaming for help.

At one point Mr Wild, who also has Parkinson's, told his wife: 'If I am going to die in this hospital, let it be soon.'

A doctor who assessed Mr Wild described him as being 'the most neglected patient I have ever seen'.

'Most neglected' patient, 73, calls 999 for help from his hospital bed

Martin Wild was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay at Salford Royal Hospital, he claimed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[luiza]

However ghastly that story is , it is just one patient story among millions .
From my own perspective , plus from a handful others whom I know personally , I can only give you 100% opposite reports .
I am not here to defend the NHS , UK , but speaking as I find it , I could not have had wished for better service than I have received at all levels .

 

[Weatherman2020]

However ghastly that story is , it is just one patient story among millions .
From my own perspective , plus from a handful others whom I know personally , I can only give you 100% opposite reports .
I am not here to defend the NHS , UK , but speaking as I find it , I could not have had wished for better service than I have received at all levels .

If that level of patient abuse is occurring it’s across the board.

 

[luiza]

If that level of patient abuse is occurring it’s across the board.

That is garbage and dishonest .

It is a matter of the total number in percentage terms and degree of dissatisfaction .

You punish individual mistakes but you do not generalise from individual cases

 

[Weatherman2020]

Who said it was not?

But it is a matter of the total number in percentage terms and degree of dissatisfaction .

You punish individual mistakes but you do not generalise from individual cases

NAZIS building great roads analogy.

 

[SavannahMann]

One needs to only observe Canada and the UK to learn what government run healthcare is about.

Neglected Parkinson's patient, 73, calls 999 for help... from his own hospital bed after being denied painkillers because he was 'not a priority'​

The 73-year-old was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and even left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay in hospital, he claimed. Other patients nearby were also shouting and screaming for help.

At one point Mr Wild, who also has Parkinson's, told his wife: 'If I am going to die in this hospital, let it be soon.'

A doctor who assessed Mr Wild described him as being 'the most neglected patient I have ever seen'.

'Most neglected' patient, 73, calls 999 for help from his hospital bed

Martin Wild was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay at Salford Royal Hospital, he claimed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Glad to hear things like this don’t happen in our capitalist system.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp068196#:~:text=Article,4%20days%20after%20Hurricane%20Katrina.

A Young Woman Almost Died Due to Texas' Abortion Bans. Now She’s Battling to Save Other Women. - Ms. Magazine

"Doctors need clarity ... to help patients like me or Kate," said Amanda Zurawski when the Texas Supreme Court denied Kate Cox an abortion.

msmagazine.com

But we are specifically talking about neglect of patients. Thank God that doesn’t happen here. Oh wait. It does. Daily.

How Common is Nursing Home Abuse? | Nursing Homes Abuse

Nursing home abuse statistics suggest that hundreds of thousands of elderly residents are mistreated and neglected in long-term care facilities every year.

nursinghomesabuse.org

Well. Shit. And what makes it worse is that we are a capitalist system. Paying out of pocket to care for our people.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Glad to hear things like this don’t happen in our capitalist system.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp068196#:~:text=Article,4%20days%20after%20Hurricane%20Katrina.

A Young Woman Almost Died Due to Texas' Abortion Bans. Now She’s Battling to Save Other Women. - Ms. Magazine

"Doctors need clarity ... to help patients like me or Kate," said Amanda Zurawski when the Texas Supreme Court denied Kate Cox an abortion.

msmagazine.com

But we are specifically talking about neglect of patients. Thank God that doesn’t happen here. Oh wait. It does. Daily.

How Common is Nursing Home Abuse? | Nursing Homes Abuse

Nursing home abuse statistics suggest that hundreds of thousands of elderly residents are mistreated and neglected in long-term care facilities every year.

nursinghomesabuse.org

Well. Shit. And what makes it worse is that we are a capitalist system. Paying out of pocket to care for our people.

Where’s the story of a person in the US being forced to call 911 from his hospital bed?

 

[SavannahMann]

Where’s the story of a person in the US being forced to call 911 from his hospital bed?

Got one better.

US hospitals are so overloaded that one ER called 911 on itself

Patients are reporting crowded waiting rooms and hours-long wait times.

arstechnica.com

VA patient called while in the waiting room of the ER.

Distraught patient calls 911 from ER

VA patient Robin Harrison said she waited two hours with debilitating stomach cramps before calling 911

www.ems1.com

If you imagine our system is awesome and doesn’t have problems. You are not just delusional. But you are so ill informed as to be a poster boy for what ignorance looks like.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Got one better.

US hospitals are so overloaded that one ER called 911 on itself

Patients are reporting crowded waiting rooms and hours-long wait times.

arstechnica.com

VA patient called while in the waiting room of the ER.

Distraught patient calls 911 from ER

VA patient Robin Harrison said she waited two hours with debilitating stomach cramps before calling 911

www.ems1.com

If you imagine our system is awesome and doesn’t have problems. You are not just delusional. But you are so ill informed as to be a poster boy for what ignorance looks like.

Now try finding something that hasn’t happened in England.

 

[sparky]

Now try finding something that hasn’t happened in England.

Anecdotally, 'kickin' a man down' weather dude.....~S~

 

[luiza]

NAZIS building great roads analogy.

Maybe in your muddled Universe .

Actually just rigorous thinking , sensible practises and a good checking system which constantly seeks to fund and implement improvements .

 

[sparky]

As a senior, i'm on 'state run' HC now.......~S~

 

[SavannahMann]

Now try finding something that hasn’t happened in England.

People going bankrupt to afford medical care.

Breaking Bad if it was filmed in England. High School Chemistry Teacher Walter White finds out he has Cancer. He goes to the treatments and has the cancer cured.

Not much of a TV show though is it?

 

[SweetSue92]

One needs to only observe Canada and the UK to learn what government run healthcare is about.

Neglected Parkinson's patient, 73, calls 999 for help... from his own hospital bed after being denied painkillers because he was 'not a priority'​

The 73-year-old was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and even left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay in hospital, he claimed. Other patients nearby were also shouting and screaming for help.

At one point Mr Wild, who also has Parkinson's, told his wife: 'If I am going to die in this hospital, let it be soon.'

A doctor who assessed Mr Wild described him as being 'the most neglected patient I have ever seen'.

'Most neglected' patient, 73, calls 999 for help from his hospital bed

Martin Wild was denied pain relief because of staff shortages and left lying in his own urine during his horrifying eight-month stay at Salford Royal Hospital, he claimed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Well, Tommy Tainant

 

[luiza]

Well, Tommy Tainant

Actually he was the patient .

And the hospital loathed him and wanted him labelled DNR

 

[Weatherman2020]

As a senior, i'm on 'state run' HC now.......~S~

No, you’re not.
Your doctors are not employees of the Federal Government

 

[Weatherman2020]

People going bankrupt to afford medical care.

Breaking Bad if it was filmed in England. High School Chemistry Teacher Walter White finds out he has Cancer. He goes to the treatments and has the cancer cured.

Not much of a TV show though is it?

There’s good reasons Canadians come to America for healthcare.

But if you like DMV type healthcare, I suggest you go to Canada.

 

[SavannahMann]

There’s good reasons Canadians come to America for healthcare.

But if you like DMV type healthcare, I suggest you go to Canada.

Maybe you can explain something to me. Why is it that the very healthcare system we provide for our Military Members is somehow unAmerican, an abomination, Socialist, or whatever when we talk about the civilians? Military members go to Government paid Doctors, Government run Hospitals, and don’t pay anything for the services.

Are you saying we provide terrible medical care to those willing to sacrifice their lives and limbs for our Nation?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Maybe you can explain something to me. Why is it that the very healthcare system we provide for our Military Members is somehow unAmerican, an abomination, Socialist, or whatever when we talk about the civilians? Military members go to Government paid Doctors, Government run Hospitals, and don’t pay anything for the services.

Are you saying we provide terrible medical care to those willing to sacrifice their lives and limbs for our Nation?

Fact is, VA let’s most vets go to private doctors now for care.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Maybe you can explain something to me. Why is it that the very healthcare system we provide for our Military Members is somehow unAmerican, an abomination, Socialist, or whatever when we talk about the civilians? Military members go to Government paid Doctors, Government run Hospitals, and don’t pay anything for the services.

Are you saying we provide terrible medical care to those willing to sacrifice their lives and limbs for our Nation?

I certainly am.