If you are in the military, please get out, thanks.

Well if you have the magic to change the world, have at it.

Alone I do not but as long as people cheer destruction nothing positive will come

people really don't cheer destruction but all change has generally occurred in some violent upheaval or another.

the reason people listen to the peacemakers is that there are brave men and women with rifles standing over their shoulder.

excuse me for being polite, but moonglow has me thinking about beanie weenies and wondering what exactly was that meat in the meat chunks with beans can, and thinkin' about food clouds up my passive thinkin' nature..

so what is it exactly that you want? you really aren't being clear.
 
Not every war and not every Veteran is honorable.

That said, the aithor of this thread seems to think they are all dishonorable.

Nonsense, lad.

Sheer nonsense.
 
I've yet to meet a Veteran who was not honorable. Not one, Editec. I thank God for every single one of them. They put their lives on the line for our country. The author of this thread is an utter disgrace and should be ashamed of himself. Tsk..tsk....
 
Well if you have the magic to change the world, have at it.

Alone I do not but as long as people cheer destruction nothing positive will come

people really don't cheer destruction but all change has generally occurred in some violent upheaval or another.

the reason people listen to the peacemakers is that there are brave men and women with rifles standing over their shoulder.

excuse me for being polite, but moonglow has me thinking about beanie weenies and wondering what exactly was that meat in the meat chunks with beans can, and thinkin' about food clouds up my passive thinkin' nature..

so what is it exactly that you want? you really aren't being clear.

Who are the peacemakers? lol? the people ordering the bombs be dropped?
 
Not every war and not every Veteran is honorable.

That said, the aithor of this thread seems to think they are all dishonorable.

Nonsense, lad.

Sheer nonsense.

If you voluntarily join the military in this day in age, yes, you are dishonorable. You do so knowing you are joining an agency that kills people across the globe for corporate profits, good moral choice there that is
 
I disagree with you. You don't get to decide who is honorable and who is dishonorable by whether or not they choose to serve this country. I don't go around accusing those who didn't offer to serve - as dishonorable. Grow up.
 
I disagree with you. You don't get to decide who is honorable and who is dishonorable by whether or not they choose to serve this country. I don't go around accusing those who didn't offer to serve - as dishonorable. Grow up.

What part of they aren't serving the country have you not understood?
 
What part of they are serving their country have you NOT understood??!

Our military men and women have fought and defended our constitution so that YOU would have the freedom to write your opinions without fear of reprisals. Imagine that!

While I find your OP shocking and disgraceful I defend your right to freedom of speech, Lemming. I'm sure you can be a very nice person and may even envision yourself as more compassionate than G-d himself but I assure you in this matter of what is honorable you are mistaken. - Jeri
 
What part of they are serving their country have you NOT understood??!

Our military men and women have fought and defended our constitution so that YOU would have the freedom to write your opinions without fear of reprisals. Imagine that!

While I find your OP shocking and disgraceful I defend your right to freedom of speech, Lemming. I'm sure you can be a very nice person and may even envision yourself as more compassionate than G-d himself but I assure you in this matter of what is honorable you are mistaken. - Jeri

I don't believe I get my "freedom" from a piece of paper that I never agreed to and that was authored by folks who owned other people as property.

The military protects corporate interests, they are not defending me as I was never under attack. They are not defending the Constitution as it authorizes a military for defense purposes not for offense.
 
What part of they are serving their country have you NOT understood??!

Our military men and women have fought and defended our constitution so that YOU would have the freedom to write your opinions without fear of reprisals. Imagine that!

While I find your OP shocking and disgraceful I defend your right to freedom of speech, Lemming. I'm sure you can be a very nice person and may even envision yourself as more compassionate than G-d himself but I assure you in this matter of what is honorable you are mistaken. - Jeri

I don't believe I get my "freedom" from a piece of paper that I never agreed to and that was authored by folks who owned other people as property.

The military protects corporate interests, they are not defending me as I was never under attack. They are not defending the Constitution as it authorizes a military for defense purposes not for offense.

Sounds like you don't know too much about the connection between politics and the military. First of all, your ass was saved by hundreds of thousands of US troops who died (and those who didn't) in World War II. Your ass is being saved right now by those serving in Afghanistan. If you wait until your enemy is at your doorstep, it could then well be too late. Just because US troops are on the other side of the world doesn't mean that aren't defending YOU (not some corporate entity)

If you only get your news and info from America and military haters, you'll never hear the full story, and in your case, it looks like that could be happening, Here's a quick introduction to REALITY.

e New York Times article reads >> "Afghan pullout seen as new threat for U.S." They're talking about the nuclear weapons in the arsenal of Pakistan. And the possibility of some of those going missing, being stolen by Islamist jihadists.

No doubt about the threat. The Muslim crazies in Pakistan have repeatedly attacked the storage facilities of these nukes. . The situation is so bad that Pakistan now moves these warheads around in ordinary cargo vans (like UPS), through ordinary streets, to keep the jihadists from focusing in on their locations. Problem is though, this also makes them dangerously susceptible to attack, if/whenever the gooneybirds manage to find the vans. On top of that, the Pakistani govt. is quite fragile, and if toppled by the Muslim loonies, the nukes would quickly be in the hands of the same people who attacked us on 9/11 and Fort Hood. In Afghanistan, it is essential for US troops to be in close proximity to Pakistan and it's arsenal of 100+ nuclear warheads. With the troops in Afghanistan, they can be close enough to the Paki nukes to quickly get to them, and secure them from the jihadists.
Note: If I had my way, the troops would enter Pakistan now and secure those nukes, and bring them back to the US, or to another safe location far away from al Qaeda's central operations.

Afghan pullout seen as new threat for U.S. | Tampa Bay Times

WikiLeaks cables highlight Pakistani nuclear terror threat | World news | The Guardian

Pakistan: Nuclear Arsenal Will Be Protected By 8,000 Trainees, Military Says

'Pakistan nuclear weapons' threat under estimated' | NDTV.com

Enough about Iran, Pakistan's nuclear threat should be our top concern | Fox News
 
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What part of they are serving their country have you NOT understood??!

Our military men and women have fought and defended our constitution so that YOU would have the freedom to write your opinions without fear of reprisals. Imagine that!

While I find your OP shocking and disgraceful I defend your right to freedom of speech, Lemming. I'm sure you can be a very nice person and may even envision yourself as more compassionate than G-d himself but I assure you in this matter of what is honorable you are mistaken. - Jeri

I don't believe I get my "freedom" from a piece of paper that I never agreed to and that was authored by folks who owned other people as property.

The military protects corporate interests, they are not defending me as I was never under attack. They are not defending the Constitution as it authorizes a military for defense purposes not for offense.

Sounds like you don't know too much about the connection between politics and the military. First of all, your ass was saved by hundreds of thousands of US troops who died (and those who didn't) in World War II. Your ass is being saved right now by those serving in Afghanistan. If you wait until your enemy is at your doorstep, it could then well be too late. Just because US troops are on the other side of the world doesn't mean that aren't defending YOU (not some corporate entity)

If you only get your news and info from America and military haters, you'll never hear the full story, and in your case, it looks like that could be happening, Here's a quick introduction to REALITY.

e New York Times article reads >> "Afghan pullout seen as new threat for U.S." They're talking about the nuclear weapons in the arsenal of Pakistan. And the possibility of some of those going missing, being stolen by Islamist jihadists.

No doubt about the threat. The Muslim crazies in Pakistan have repeatedly attacked the storage facilities of these nukes. . The situation is so bad that Pakistan now moves these warheads around in ordinary cargo vans (like UPS), through ordinary streets, to keep the jihadists from focusing in on their locations. Problem is though, this also makes them dangerously susceptible to attack, if/whenever the gooneybirds manage to find the vans. On top of that, the Pakistani govt. is quite fragile, and if toppled by the Muslim loonies, the nukes would quickly be in the hands of the same people who attacked us on 9/11 and Fort Hood. In Afghanistan, it is essential for US troops to be in close proximity to Pakistan and it's arsenal of 100+ nuclear warheads. With the troops in Afghanistan, they can be close enough to the Paki nukes to quickly get to them, and secure them from the jihadists.
Note: If I had my way, the troops would enter Pakistan now and secure those nukes, and bring them back to the US, or to another safe location far away from al Qaeda's central operations.

I guess I missed all the troops amassed on our border in WWII. I guess I forgot how we blockaded Japan before we were even "in the war" and then people wondered why Pearl Harbor happened.

I wonder why the Muslims hate us? Has to be our freedom, can't be the fact that we have constantly attacked/disrupted/sanctioned their people for eons.

I'm glad the media has you scared as **** and we can continue to kill people who never attacked us though man real good
 
You are literally offering to kill people for corporate profits. You are not defending the country, defending or spreading freedom, or doing anything remotely close to that ideal. You are killing other people where they live to make rich folks richer. You are a shitty person if you know this and still do it. Quit supporting evil, thanks.,

Allow me to speak for all the other veterans here when I say..."**** you". Have a nice day. :D

:clap2::clap2:
 
ok I took the time to read/skim the thread

LL is clearly a very young anarchist

it's 50-50 that LL is out of HS and more than likely has no college degree

a person with that much hate for where they live, doesn't have much, if any, life xp.
 
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ahh good old judgment over an opinion towards non-violence and people who love violence. this place is awesome
 
Sounds like you don't know too much about the connection between politics and the military. First of all, your ass was saved by hundreds of thousands of US troops who died (and those who didn't) in World War II. Your ass is being saved right now by those serving in Afghanistan. If you wait until your enemy is at your doorstep, it could then well be too late. Just because US troops are on the other side of the world doesn't mean that aren't defending YOU (not some corporate entity)

If you only get your news and info from America and military haters, you'll never hear the full story, and in your case, it looks like that could be happening, Here's a quick introduction to REALITY.

e New York Times article reads >> "Afghan pullout seen as new threat for U.S." They're talking about the nuclear weapons in the arsenal of Pakistan. And the possibility of some of those going missing, being stolen by Islamist jihadists.

No doubt about the threat. The Muslim crazies in Pakistan have repeatedly attacked the storage facilities of these nukes. . The situation is so bad that Pakistan now moves these warheads around in ordinary cargo vans (like UPS), through ordinary streets, to keep the jihadists from focusing in on their locations. Problem is though, this also makes them dangerously susceptible to attack, if/whenever the gooneybirds manage to find the vans. On top of that, the Pakistani govt. is quite fragile, and if toppled by the Muslim loonies, the nukes would quickly be in the hands of the same people who attacked us on 9/11 and Fort Hood. In Afghanistan, it is essential for US troops to be in close proximity to Pakistan and it's arsenal of 100+ nuclear warheads. With the troops in Afghanistan, they can be close enough to the Paki nukes to quickly get to them, and secure them from the jihadists.
Note: If I had my way, the troops would enter Pakistan now and secure those nukes, and bring them back to the US, or to another safe location far away from al Qaeda's central operations.
Amen! :clap2:
 
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